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Old 04-29-2004   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by uhtu
or just use wigle.net :-)
Apples and oranges....

I use wigle.net also, and have uploaded around 300+ newly discovered nets in copenhagen and surroundings the last couple of days. Wigle is great to get an overview of the nets in your area, but the webmap sucks when one wants to show people the problem of non secure accesspoints in their local area.
Coastal lines are off, no recognizable landmarks, etc etc.. People can relate to streetnames, they don't relate to areaoutlines....

With Adam's gpsvisualizer site, I can make a good hi-resolution map, with streetnames and show people where the problem exist in their area.. Chances are that they might know somebody on xxyy-street who have PC's and might use WLAN equipment. The chance that they might think "Hey.. it could be Bob on xxyy-street who runs unsecure" from the wigle.net webmap is almost non existant...

Remember, we are trying to get people to realize that setting a wlan up out-of-the-box is NOT a good idea.

By using Adam's free service, to make a map of the areas I check out, and provide it to the local community via the weekly newspapers, hanging a copy on the bulletinboard at the library, etc etc, I kind of feel I continue in the spirit of why Marius made Netstumbler free : To help in raising the awareness about (the lack of ) wlan security.

So thanks to Marius for making netstumbler, a great tool in its own right, and thanks to Adam for providing the gpsvisualizer service, another great tool in its own right. The two of them together provides a fantastic GIS tool for wardriver-persons who want to give a little back to their local community, and don't have the dough to invest in the commercial tools, such as Aeropeek, and Mappoint.


Just my 0.02€'s worth...

Dutch

P.S. Thorn, if you get to Copenhagen sometime, holler and I'll buy ya some good danish beer for the perl script.. You see, I would like to toast ya, but I hate to drink alone

Last edited by Dutch : 04-29-2004 at 09:13 PM.
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