Access home PC with wireless setup and pocketPC - Page 2

Thorn · 08-21-2002

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Originally posted by SaintJC

Each PC on my home network is assigned an IP address automatically by my router...

I access them through the basic windows XP networking.

(I'm not a complete newb, sorry if I come across as one).

My setup will soon be:

Casio E-125 pocketpc (owned)
Oronico 802.11b (silver or gold) (yet to be purchased)
PCMCIA-CF adapter (on the way)
Garmin eTrex (owned)

Now, I want to know what pocketPC software I'll need to MAKE the connection. I intend to try it at home before "stumbling" out in the real world.

BTW, IS there a manual or guide to doing this (specifically wireless/netstumbling) because I can't find one.

First, no guide per se. To "stumble" you:
1) Load the software.
2) Run the PC/PPC.
3) Drive/walk around.
4) Listen for the "Boing!", watch the screen or both.*
5) Repeat 3 and 4 as needed.

It's as simple as that.
*Watching the screen while you drive will probably get you qualified for a Darwin.

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Now then, the "software to make the connection" is standard TCP/IP. That's it.

For Bog's sake, DON"T USE "basic windows XP networking." With an AP on that network you're asking for trouble. At the very least run some sort of firewall software, and close all unneeded TCP and UDP ports.

BW is right: you're getting scary. YOU REALLY, DESPERATELY, NEED TO READ UP ON BASIC NETWORKING. Look at that thread I posted above, there is a list there of beginner books; get those, and get the one BW suggests.

SaintJC · 08-22-2002

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Now then, the "software to make the connection" is standard TCP/IP. That's it.

Thanks. Perhaps I'm still not being clear...since I'm doing this with a "pocket" PC, I'm unclear as to how to initiate a TCP/IP connection with the Casio. Do I just assign it to get a IP address automatically?

Quote:

For Bog's sake, DON"T USE "basic windows XP networking." With an AP on that network you're asking for trouble. At the very least run some sort of firewall software, and close all unneeded TCP and UDP ports.

I have both the internal firewall and the windows XP firewall running. I've used online tools to probe for open ports and such.

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BW is right: you're getting scary. YOU REALLY, DESPERATELY, NEED TO READ UP ON BASIC NETWORKING. Look at that thread I posted above, there is a list there of beginner books; get those, and get the one BW suggests. [/b]

I shall. Believe me, I always want to learn. Thanks for all your help guys!

blackwave · 08-22-2002

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Originally posted by SaintJC
Thanks. Perhaps I'm still not being clear...since I'm doing this with a "pocket" PC, I'm unclear as to how to initiate a TCP/IP connection with the Casio. Do I just assign it to get a IP address automatically?

Once your device has established a connection to your machine it has access to whatever services your machine is offering. You of course have to have the associated client software using protocol/port/authentication/etc... As to your hardware device your manual should specify how to set up your Casio, if indeed it is capable of doing so. Generally you can think of your handheld as any other machine in regards to networking, whether you are attaching via dhcp, or static ip.

Here is a sample scenario:
You are at cafe x, they are offering free wifi if you buy a coffee, and they give you a code on a receipt for 15 minutes of wifi usage... you take your pc and follow their directions which would generally be dhcp, so you would make sure your client had dhcp enabled. You would use your browser to connect, and they would push you to their main logon page. You put in your info, and the timer begins.. you surf around to your box on the net, and ssl authenticate.. now you are in your box via https across the internet using WiFi. Of course you are at the mercy of the APs routing and proxy set up (they may be blocking everything except http).. and don't forget you could be sniffed at any time... so it would be suggested to use ssh. once you have established a legal connection bring up your ssh client and logon then use your client apps that are being tunnelled.

*note:don't try this at home unless you know what you are doing.
*note: for informational and educational purposes only

hollowing · 08-22-2002

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Now then, the "software to make the connection" is standard TCP/IP. That's it.

Sorry, sorry, sorry - for making this happen, but as a quick academic (and maybe pointless) aside does (vanilla) PPC2002 speak any other networking protocols [than TCP/IP]. I know TCP/IP is ubiquitous now (and more robust for wireless), so I guess that the question is really just for completeness.

The MS site seems a bit well, vague on the subject.

(crawl's away again...)

Sooner Al · 08-27-2002

PPC File Explorer to access (but not open) network shares...

http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pock...leexplorer.asp

Network ActiveSync...

http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pock...ivesyncnet.asp

Net Use...access and open network shares...

http://www.bizzdev.com/en/downloads/netuse/

Netrunner...access and open network shares...

http://www.pcdemano.com/sections.php...ticle&artid=51

Network tools...

Pocket Hosts by Marc Zimmerman...

http://www.zimac.de/cestuff.htm

vxUtil tool...

http://www.cam.com/vxutil.html

Release a DHCP assigned IP address and more...

http://www.furrygoat.com/Programming/ceipConfig.html

TIntruder · 08-27-2002

Back to accessing the PCs...

Have you looked at MS Terminal Server (on NT) or TErminal Services on 2k/XP?

Have you looked at Citrix?

I believe there is a TS and Citrix client for just about every flavor of WinCE handhelds back to the 2.1x versions...

sparafina · 08-27-2002

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Originally posted by TIntruder
Back to accessing the PCs...

I use VNC for the pocket pc. Download from here:

http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html

The ppc version on the official VNC site is old and sucks, but you can download the server version from the att site.

Sooner Al · 08-28-2002

use the Terminal Services Client for PPC 2002 to access XP Pro desktops via Remote Desktop. I do that from my iPAQ 3835 via a D-Link DCF-650W card to remotely access/control two XP Pro boxes on my home LAN. TSC is native to PPC 2002 devices or you can download a copy from MS if you have an upgraded PPC 2002 device like a 3630 iPAQ.

fyiguy · 09-03-2002

If you haven't heard of or checked out TZO.com they offer a solution that sets up a webserver etc on DSL or cablemodem connection so you can run a website and access to your PC via the web. It is pretty cheap at about $25/ year and they have a PPC solution as well...

08-27-2002	#20 (permalink)
Sooner Al Old Enough to Know Better Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norman, Oklahoma Posts: 63	Look at these links for help... PPC File Explorer to access (but not open) network shares... http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pock...leexplorer.asp Network ActiveSync... http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/pock...ivesyncnet.asp Net Use...access and open network shares... http://www.bizzdev.com/en/downloads/netuse/ Netrunner...access and open network shares... http://www.pcdemano.com/sections.php...ticle&artid=51 Network tools... Pocket Hosts by Marc Zimmerman... http://www.zimac.de/cestuff.htm vxUtil tool... http://www.cam.com/vxutil.html Release a DHCP assigned IP address and more... http://www.furrygoat.com/Programming/ceipConfig.html __________________ "When all else fails, read the instructions..."

08-28-2002	#23 (permalink)
Sooner Al Old Enough to Know Better Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norman, Oklahoma Posts: 63	You can also... use the Terminal Services Client for PPC 2002 to access XP Pro desktops via Remote Desktop. I do that from my iPAQ 3835 via a D-Link DCF-650W card to remotely access/control two XP Pro boxes on my home LAN. TSC is native to PPC 2002 devices or you can download a copy from MS if you have an upgraded PPC 2002 device like a 3630 iPAQ. __________________ "When all else fails, read the instructions..."

09-03-2002	#24 (permalink)
fyiguy Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: MA Posts: 1	You can also try TZO If you haven't heard of or checked out TZO.com they offer a solution that sets up a webserver etc on DSL or cablemodem connection so you can run a website and access to your PC via the web. It is pretty cheap at about $25/ year and they have a PPC solution as well...

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08-27-2002	#21 (permalink)
TIntruder Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Oregon Posts: 163	Back to accessing the PCs... Have you looked at MS Terminal Server (on NT) or TErminal Services on 2k/XP? Have you looked at Citrix? I believe there is a TS and Citrix client for just about every flavor of WinCE handhelds back to the 2.1x versions...