How to get 300K+ points in 9 months (rig pics)

whitedice · 02-01-2007

Alright, here are the pictures (optimized for web).

Pic 1 - No need to draw attention to the vehicle. All gear covered up.
Pic 2 - Under the covers. 14dBi patch antenna at a forward angle out the side window, 8 dBi patch antenna facing out the back window slightly angled toward the opposite side. Other side of vehicle has identical antennas. Custom PVC stand.
Pic 3 - Need more power. 800W Custom Installed (by a professional, not me) Inverter. The inverter plugs are in the wall of a rear storage compartment.
Pic 4 - This is where I may have gotten a little carried away.

Not pictured - Exterior Mobile Mark Antenna and USGlobalSat GPS, Antenna placement for preamped vertical detection(varies); Second inverter for nav. laptop; 2nd GPS and navigation laptop / mp3 player (600M); Kitchen Sink (j/k)

Ok, so here is the explanation of the insanity you just saw. Basically, I started with my main laptop (600M), NetStumbler, and a Delorme LT-20 GPS. Then upgraded, upgraded, upgraded, and upgraded some more. I ended up using just about every single "upgrade" that was suppose to replace equipment. 8dBi to 14dbi, you get the idea.

So I have Kismet & 2 Kismet Drones (not WRT54Gs, all 3 dual PCMCIAs 200mW+), 4 Preamps (the 14 dBis, MM on roof, and the vertical antenna (currently upgrading)), and 6 antennas. I decided to run a completely passive rig. No more NS on the navigation laptop. Nothing runs on batteries, though my 2 8100s can go 6+ hours each. Don't get me started on the monitor-less, keyboard-less, mouse-less PC.

The BEFW11S4 Linksys router's wifi is turned off, and is merely used to network 4 computers (left over after home upgrade). All antennas, amplifiers, and pigtails came from either HyperlinkTech or Fleeman, Anderson & Bird, Corp. (FAB-Corp.)

And there you have it. 100% OCWDD. If only I had learned of this hobby sooner (in my life's travels)...
http://www.whitedice.com/wardriving/travelssmall.jpg

Barry · 02-01-2007

Good thing all that stuff is passive. You'd cook your skull.

itsnotme · 02-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Barry

Good thing all that stuff is passive. You'd cook your skull.

That's if he has everything hooked up right, otherwise I don't think he's ever going to have any kids again.

streaker69 · 02-01-2007

I have something that you need, if I can still find it.

Your pre-amps could probably use a good heatsink to sit on. I think I have a 6" long 4" wide heatsink still sitting around here somewhere.

If I can find it, you can have it.

whitedice · 02-01-2007

I thought that warm fuzzy feeling I got while out driving was from the thrill of the find!

ccie4526 · 02-01-2007

Not too bad a setup. More boxen than I run. What pre-amps are they?

Be careful that you don't blow any transmit RF into the back end of the preamp, that's a good way to turn it into a nice attenuator. Haven't done this to any of my 2.4GHz stuff, but I had a 144MHz preamp that didn't take too kindly to getting 25W into the back end of it.

Guess I'm gonna have to get the camera out and get some pics of my rig. I see you've been to a few of my treasure troves here in TX.

Thorn · 02-01-2007

whitedice, what is it that you do that you're on the road that much?

Also, from that map it looks like you drove right past my house when you were passing through Vermont.

beakmyn · 02-02-2007

Missed my house but I see you toured the finger lakes and Niagara Falls.

More pics.

Scruge · 02-02-2007

@whitedice
Nice setup!

That looks like Mark57's rig.
You driving a Toyota too?

What I'd like to know is how you all are able to keep such low ratios of New to pre-existing discoveries.

Do you have a copy of the wigle DB you filter your discoveries against before uploading?

whitedice · 02-02-2007

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Originally Posted by ccie4526

Not too bad a setup. More boxen than I run. What pre-amps are they?

FAB Corp. 1 Watt Amps.

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Originally Posted by Thorn

whitedice, what is it that you do that you're on the road that much?

I have been extremely fortunate in that my parents love to travel (tent camping). So I have been able to see a lot of the country for free in my late teens/early twenties. Last year, a cousin of mine came from Silkeborg, Denmark, and wanted to see the West Coast. So the 2 of us went on a 3 week trip across country. We rented 3 cars, 1 offroading jeep, rode 2 trains, flew twice, and rode a bus. During that trip, I did WarWalk in San Francisco, and ran a laptop w/ Netstumbler in all the cars and the train ride home (Colorado to Cincinnati). So the short answer is... All the travel was for fun! hehe. Now I work 3 12-hour shifts, and have four days off to be able to do little trips.

Dutch · 02-02-2007

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Originally Posted by whitedice

Last year, a cousin of mine came from Silkeborg, Denmark, and wanted to see the West Coast.

Holler if you are going to visit your Danish family. If you fly in, you'll land here in Copenhagen. I'll show you the sights here, but don't count on upping your Wigle stats with AP's from Copenhagen, I think I'm about having the city fully covered - 94.15% of the detections seen are mine..

Dutch

whitedice · 02-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruge

@whitedice
Nice setup!

That looks like Mark57's rig.
You driving a Toyota too?

What I'd like to know is how you all are able to keep such low ratios of New to pre-existing discoveries.

Do you have a copy of the wigle DB you filter your discoveries against before uploading?

'02 Trailblazer w/ 156,000 miles. As far as low ratio, I look at the web map of discovered a lot, and try and find places not heavily covered. I was lucky that Cincinnati was not done heavily, and then I went to Cleveland which was hardly done, and Lexington, KY was hardly done. Then I use Google Earth and find areas that have high potential. Walmarts, Home Depots, Universities and Hospitals are good places to look for.

streaker69 · 02-02-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitedice

'02 Trailblazer w/ 156,000 miles. As far as low ratio, I look at the web map of discovered a lot, and try and find places not heavily covered. I was lucky that Cincinnati was not done heavily, and then I went to Cleveland which was hardly done, and Lexington, KY was hardly done. Then I use Google Earth and find areas that have high potential. Walmarts, Home Depots, Universities and Hospitals are good places to look for.

Universities are excellent places to hit each year as you'll always come up with several hundred new ones as students come and go.

We got over 2000 at UoD a couple years ago in the span of about 15 minutes. Hit it again, I bet we'd get even more.

renderman · 02-02-2007

Very nice. It's amazing how much the side scanning rigs can pick up. Glad to see someone built the dream machine I've never had the budget for and shares the same penchant for PVC pipe as I

streaker69 · 02-02-2007

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Originally Posted by renderman

Very nice. It's amazing how much the side scanning rigs can pick up. Glad to see someone built the dream machine I've never had the budget for and shares the same penchant for PVC pipe and full body latex suits as I

fixed.

02-01-2007	#1 (permalink)
whitedice Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 61	How to get 300K+ points in 9 months (rig pics) Alright, here are the pictures (optimized for web). Pic 1 - No need to draw attention to the vehicle. All gear covered up. Pic 2 - Under the covers. 14dBi patch antenna at a forward angle out the side window, 8 dBi patch antenna facing out the back window slightly angled toward the opposite side. Other side of vehicle has identical antennas. Custom PVC stand. Pic 3 - Need more power. 800W Custom Installed (by a professional, not me) Inverter. The inverter plugs are in the wall of a rear storage compartment. Pic 4 - This is where I may have gotten a little carried away. Not pictured - Exterior Mobile Mark Antenna and USGlobalSat GPS, Antenna placement for preamped vertical detection(varies); Second inverter for nav. laptop; 2nd GPS and navigation laptop / mp3 player (600M); Kitchen Sink (j/k) Ok, so here is the explanation of the insanity you just saw. Basically, I started with my main laptop (600M), NetStumbler, and a Delorme LT-20 GPS. Then upgraded, upgraded, upgraded, and upgraded some more. I ended up using just about every single "upgrade" that was suppose to replace equipment. 8dBi to 14dbi, you get the idea. So I have Kismet & 2 Kismet Drones (not WRT54Gs, all 3 dual PCMCIAs 200mW+), 4 Preamps (the 14 dBis, MM on roof, and the vertical antenna (currently upgrading)), and 6 antennas. I decided to run a completely passive rig. No more NS on the navigation laptop. Nothing runs on batteries, though my 2 8100s can go 6+ hours each. Don't get me started on the monitor-less, keyboard-less, mouse-less PC. The BEFW11S4 Linksys router's wifi is turned off, and is merely used to network 4 computers (left over after home upgrade). All antennas, amplifiers, and pigtails came from either HyperlinkTech or Fleeman, Anderson & Bird, Corp. (FAB-Corp.) And there you have it. 100% OCWDD. If only I had learned of this hobby sooner (in my life's travels)... http://www.whitedice.com/wardriving/travelssmall.jpg

02-01-2007	#2 (permalink)
Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,367	Good thing all that stuff is passive. You'd cook your skull. __________________ Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

02-01-2007	#4 (permalink)
streaker69 Psychic Amish Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA Posts: 11,798	I have something that you need, if I can still find it. Your pre-amps could probably use a good heatsink to sit on. I think I have a 6" long 4" wide heatsink still sitting around here somewhere. If I can find it, you can have it. __________________ "One of these days, I'm going to cut you to pieces." If you're offended by this post, please feel free to report it to one of the many helpful moderators of this forum. Thank you.

02-01-2007	#6 (permalink)
ccie4526 My search-fu is weak! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West BFE, Texas Posts: 419	Not too bad a setup. More boxen than I run. What pre-amps are they? Be careful that you don't blow any transmit RF into the back end of the preamp, that's a good way to turn it into a nice attenuator. Haven't done this to any of my 2.4GHz stuff, but I had a 144MHz preamp that didn't take too kindly to getting 25W into the back end of it. Guess I'm gonna have to get the camera out and get some pics of my rig. I see you've been to a few of my treasure troves here in TX. __________________ --- <#include std.disclaimer.h> AltarThug of Wired and Unwired, The Church of WiFi http://www.churchofwifi.org http://www.linuxisforbitches.com http://www.wigle.net http://www.kismetwireless.net

02-01-2007	#7 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,084	whitedice, what is it that you do that you're on the road that much? Also, from that map it looks like you drove right past my house when you were passing through Vermont. __________________ Thorn "I'm The Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I am from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation Kasterborous. I'm 903 years old and I am the man who is going to save your lives and all 6 billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?"

02-01-2007	#5 (permalink)
whitedice Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 61	I thought that warm fuzzy feeling I got while out driving was from the thrill of the find!

02-02-2007	#8 (permalink)
beakmyn root\.workspace\.garbage. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,796	Missed my house but I see you toured the finger lakes and Niagara Falls. More pics. __________________ Daughter with arms inside shirt: "Daddy I'm not Armish" ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ╞ NS Icons Explained\|et hoc genus omne ╡ └──────────────────────────────┘

02-02-2007	#9 (permalink)
Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,380	@whitedice Nice setup! That looks like Mark57's rig. You driving a Toyota too? What I'd like to know is how you all are able to keep such low ratios of New to pre-existing discoveries. Do you have a copy of the wigle DB you filter your discoveries against before uploading? __________________ KNSGEM A wifi boundary plotter for Google Earth Click Me

02-02-2007	#14 (permalink)
renderman Drunken Stumbler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Anywhere but Utah Posts: 1,802	Very nice. It's amazing how much the side scanning rigs can pick up. Glad to see someone built the dream machine I've never had the budget for and shares the same penchant for PVC pipe as I __________________ Never drink anything larger than your head! Scaramental Wine Taster for the Church Of WiFi Buy our books! "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!" – Adam Savage CoWF WPA Hash Tables

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