mognet - java sniffer for pocket pc

12-27-2001

Has anybody seen Mognet - or have a copy? I read a short blurb on it at http://www.securiteam.com/tools/6U00C203FW.html the other day. I just got an Ipaq and this looks very nice but the mognet site (http://chocobospore.org/mognet/) has been down every time I've tried it.

Here's the write-up on it:
Mognet is a free, open source wireless Ethernet sniffer/analyzer written in Java. It is licensed under the GNU General Public License. It was designed for handheld devices like the iPaq in mind, but will run just as well on a desktop or laptop.

Features include:
* Real-time output of captured frames.
* Detailed description of any frame, including all IEEE 802.11 generic and frame-specific headers.
* Raw hex and ascii dump of any frame.
* Space-efficient presentation of information for convenient operation on handhelds.
* Saving and loading of frames in Ethereal/Libpcap/Tcpdump format.
* Text-mode frame capture for GUI-less devices.

12-27-2001

http://209.100.212.5/cgi-bin/search/search.cgi?searchvalue=mognet&%5Bsearch%5D.x=20&%5 Bsearch%5D.y=9

12-27-2001

To run this, you need to have JAVA on your Ipaq. You can run a JAVA emulator on a 'native' IPAQ with WinCE or replace it with Linux and Java or run a native Java environment. The site below gives all kinds of details about it.

http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-10-2001/jw-1026-devices.html

I kindof like the idea of the emulator on WinCE. That way I can still run my card's native diagnostic/site survey tools (Cisco and Orinoco), NS Mini when it comes out or the wireless sniffer.

I'm still not sure if there are drivers to put either of my cards into promiscuous mode on an Ipaq but this certainly seems like a pretty cool addition to a sumbling setup.

12-28-2001

As far as I can see you still need to put Linux on your ipaq to get this baby to run..

01-17-2002

So what's the consensus here guys ? Can it run on Wince or not ??

01-18-2002

Well on the web site it says the following:

--
Win32 Note: Windows does not support a cross-platform,
card-independent method of raw 802.11 frame capture and
thus is not compatible with Mognet.
--

http://chocobospore.org/mognet/

01-27-2002

Win32 is not the same as Windows CE - Win32 referrs to Windows 98, etc.

01-27-2002

It is working now + downloading ok too

01-27-2002

unclex can you give a bit more info regarding your reply!
Are you saying you have mognet working under wince?

01-30-2002

Note that contrary to the opinion of one of the replies above, WinCE/PocketPC is based (albeit loosely) on a trimmed-down Win32 kernel.

Having looked at the Mognet stuff, I'm pretty sure you won't get this running under Java on an iPaq, unless you install Linux on it. Why? Because as the Mognet FAQ states, there isn't a card & vendor-independant way of accessing a wireless LAN nic under Windows, and that includes the PocketPC platform (unfortunately). Linux has a set of APIs for talking to cards such as these without relying on a vendor-specific driver implementation (not entirely accurate, but close enough - basically, the Linux drivers expose a common API at a lower level in the kernel)

Also, the JVM (Java Virtual Machine) is not an "emulator". A JVM is a JVM. You don't emulate Java, you interpret and run the bytecode.

03-11-2002

not in ce

03-29-2002

Has anyone successfully gotten a sniffing program to run under pocketpc?

03-30-2002

Despite being written in Java, Mognet will not operate under any Windows OS. This is due to restrictions in the NDIS network driver model, which does not allow capturing raw 802.11b frames (as discussed above).

From the mognet site... =\

03-30-2002

ahhh the joy of java

04-01-2002

You can get CENiffer. I can't find the web-site at the moment (didn't look long, gotta get moving this AM). It works very well. You can download an eval from their web site.

12-27-2001	#1 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	mognet - java sniffer for pocket pc Has anybody seen Mognet - or have a copy? I read a short blurb on it at http://www.securiteam.com/tools/6U00C203FW.html the other day. I just got an Ipaq and this looks very nice but the mognet site (http://chocobospore.org/mognet/) has been down every time I've tried it. Here's the write-up on it: Mognet is a free, open source wireless Ethernet sniffer/analyzer written in Java. It is licensed under the GNU General Public License. It was designed for handheld devices like the iPaq in mind, but will run just as well on a desktop or laptop. Features include: * Real-time output of captured frames. * Detailed description of any frame, including all IEEE 802.11 generic and frame-specific headers. * Raw hex and ascii dump of any frame. * Space-efficient presentation of information for convenient operation on handhelds. * Saving and loading of frames in Ethereal/Libpcap/Tcpdump format. * Text-mode frame capture for GUI-less devices.

12-27-2001	#2 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	file update - available on Packet Storm http://209.100.212.5/cgi-bin/search/search.cgi?searchvalue=mognet&%5Bsearch%5D.x=20&%5 Bsearch%5D.y=9

12-27-2001	#3 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Getting JAVA on an IPAQ To run this, you need to have JAVA on your Ipaq. You can run a JAVA emulator on a 'native' IPAQ with WinCE or replace it with Linux and Java or run a native Java environment. The site below gives all kinds of details about it. http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-10-2001/jw-1026-devices.html I kindof like the idea of the emulator on WinCE. That way I can still run my card's native diagnostic/site survey tools (Cisco and Orinoco), NS Mini when it comes out or the wireless sniffer. I'm still not sure if there are drivers to put either of my cards into promiscuous mode on an Ipaq but this certainly seems like a pretty cool addition to a sumbling setup.

01-30-2002	#10 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Not likely under WinCE / PocketPC Note that contrary to the opinion of one of the replies above, WinCE/PocketPC is based (albeit loosely) on a trimmed-down Win32 kernel. Having looked at the Mognet stuff, I'm pretty sure you won't get this running under Java on an iPaq, unless you install Linux on it. Why? Because as the Mognet FAQ states, there isn't a card & vendor-independant way of accessing a wireless LAN nic under Windows, and that includes the PocketPC platform (unfortunately). Linux has a set of APIs for talking to cards such as these without relying on a vendor-specific driver implementation (not entirely accurate, but close enough - basically, the Linux drivers expose a common API at a lower level in the kernel) Also, the JVM (Java Virtual Machine) is not an "emulator". A JVM is a JVM. You don't emulate Java, you interpret and run the bytecode.

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12-28-2001	#4 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	As far as I can see you still need to put Linux on your ipaq to get this baby to run..

01-17-2002	#5 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	So what's the consensus here guys ? Can it run on Wince or not ??

01-18-2002	#6 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Well on the web site it says the following: -- Win32 Note: Windows does not support a cross-platform, card-independent method of raw 802.11 frame capture and thus is not compatible with Mognet. -- http://chocobospore.org/mognet/

01-27-2002	#7 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Win32 is not the same as Windows CE - Win32 referrs to Windows 98, etc.

01-27-2002	#8 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	It is working now + downloading ok too

01-27-2002	#9 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	unclex can you give a bit more info regarding your reply! Are you saying you have mognet working under wince?

03-29-2002	#12 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Has anyone successfully gotten a sniffing program to run under pocketpc?

03-30-2002	#13 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Despite being written in Java, Mognet will not operate under any Windows OS. This is due to restrictions in the NDIS network driver model, which does not allow capturing raw 802.11b frames (as discussed above). From the mognet site... =\

04-01-2002	#15 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	You can get CENiffer. I can't find the web-site at the moment (didn't look long, gotta get moving this AM). It works very well. You can download an eval from their web site.