nissan wireless cars

Sh00t3r · 06-05-2002

Saw 2 brand new nissan cars today, not sure of the model, that were trailing each other by about 200 feet. I noticed a fatty omni directional antenna on the car trailing. I pulled up closer to notice the antenna was from hyperlinktech. That really sparked me to catch up closer.

As I pulled up to the trailing car I noticed their pimp setup. One driver, and one sittin shotty controlling a laptop on a profesionally mounted stand. On the front windshield they had some sort of antenna-range detector suction cupped pointed towards the leader car.

The leader car also had a nice omni and also another antenna mounted on the roof that resembled a GPS antenna you see on vans and fed ex trucks. But it was much much smaller. Rear facing antenna-range detector also mounted in rear windshield. Once again, driver and shotty w/laptop.

My guess is that they were running some possible tests for automatic drive control and distancing. They had manufacturers plates and i've never seen that car model before. Anyone else see anything like this before? I live in michigan, used to be near alot of proving grounds and tests tracks for ford and gm but this was right on the xpress way. Would love it if they were pimpin 802.11b. Too bad i didn't have my laptop w/me. would've ran stumbler and sniffer wireless scannin channels. Well maybe next time!

Dr3D1zzl3 · 06-05-2002

ill put my money on a distance warning type application. Maybe not auto drive (that would be bad ass thought) Did the driver have his hands on the wheel?

Sh00t3r · 06-06-2002

I was driving like a mad man trying to catch up to em so i couldn't really tell.

Thorn · 06-06-2002

Stanford (I think) had a Pent I ~300MHz driving a car with "slaves" following about 2-3 years ago. It was on Discovery Channel.

If Nissan is doing real world testing, whether distance warning or something else, then a car-to-car AdHoc WLAN makes a lot of sense.

lullabud · 06-06-2002

anybody else ever tried ad-hoc while moving? it'd be phat to have an irc server or something to chat between members of a caravan. =) we used frs radios on the way to a concert once but sharing files, chatting, maybe some gaming... that's the life right there. now if we could just manage a satellite uplink and infrastructure mode......... hmmmm...... ::scratches chin and looks to the sky::

Thorn · 06-06-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by lullabud
... <snip>... now if we could just manage a satellite uplink and infrastructure mode......... hmmmm...... ::scratches chin and looks to the sky::

I think they had that in the original Revenge of the Nerds. (Look for a VERY young Anthony Edwards as one of the head nerds.) They had a 6" satellite dish that looked like it was made out of a vegatable steamer.

...hmmm...

"Honey, where's that little veggy steamer thing? The one we don't use too much? What? No, nothing... But I'll be down in the workshop for a couple of hours..."

lullabud · 06-06-2002

hahahah, nice. =) i think i have a pasta strainer that might work, now that you mention it... i just wish i had those old metal disc sleds from when i was in elementary school.

Madhadder · 06-07-2002

On the way up the Hannover for CEBIT 2002, my friends
and I tried this out...

There were 3 cars. Car 1 & 3 had Laptops/Lucent Gold Cards &
Omni's on top.. Car 2 had a Linksys WAP11 also with ext Antt.

Now we had been told that WLAN connections will work
on moving cars at up to 40-50mph but loose the signal
after that. Well It got me thinking that maybe they were
correct IF the AP was fixed at a certain location, but what
would happen if both the AP and the clients were moving
at 40-60mph or faster.....

Well, we got all the cars within .5-1k together and cranked it
up. We were able to connect/chat/xfer files etc. The only thing
we didn't have was an Internet connection. I guess we could
have but running it at 9600 on a cell phone would not only be
VERY slow but also a lot of $$$...

This setup worked fine as long as all cars stayed within range,
even up to 190KPH, but at any speed it's best to have a
driver/operator combination so you will get to where you are going, in one piece.

Try it out,and post the results/pictures, but PLEASE BE CAREFULL.

The Others · 06-07-2002

Quote:

Saw 2 brand new nissan cars today, not sure of the model, that were trailing each other by about 200 feet. I noticed a fatty omni directional antenna on the car trailing. I pulled up closer to notice the antenna was from hyperlinktech. That really sparked me to catch up closer.

What did the cars look like? Usually when a manufacturer tests something they add extra panels to the car so you don't know what it looks like, and paint it black and white checker board style so camera auto focus wont work.

Thorn · 06-07-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Madhadder
On the way up the Hannover for CEBIT 2002, my friends
and I tried this out...

There were 3 cars. Car 1 & 3 had Laptops/Lucent Gold Cards &
Omni's on top.. Car 2 had a Linksys WAP11 also with ext Antt.

Now we had been told that WLAN connections will work
on moving cars at up to 40-50mph but loose the signal
after that. Well It got me thinking that maybe they were
correct IF the AP was fixed at a certain location, but what
would happen if both the AP and the clients were moving
at 40-60mph or faster.....

Well, we got all the cars within .5-1k together and cranked it
up. We were able to connect/chat/xfer files etc. The only thing
we didn't have was an Internet connection. I guess we could
have but running it at 9600 on a cell phone would not only be
VERY slow but also a lot of $$$...

This setup worked fine as long as all cars stayed within range,
even up to 190KPH, but at any speed it's best to have a
driver/operator combination so you will get to where you are going, in one piece.

Try it out,and post the results/pictures, but PLEASE BE CAREFULL.

MadHatter, why did you use the WAP11? Or putting it a different way, why didn't you just go with an AdHoc peer to peer mode?

Just curious.

lullabud · 06-07-2002

WAP11 or not, that's still phat as hell. =) some guy netstumbling by is going to be submitting some seriously bunk GPS data for your AP. ;-)

Madhadder · 06-07-2002

Quote:
MadHatter, why did you use the WAP11? Or putting it a different way, why didn't you just go with an AdHoc peer to peer mode?

Just curious.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Because I could....

And because We also had 2 Wired PC in the back on a Switch.

It stillamazes me just how much stuff you can power
off an Inverter.

Madhadder · 06-07-2002

Almost forgot,

Make sure your Antt. are REALLY, and I mean REALLY
Attached to something. We had a prob. with this when
we started.... But it's nothing Military grade 100MPH
tape can't handle

I suppose you could also use the WAP11 Hack to
gain some more coverage/distance/get a stronger
signal.

Sidenote: Ya'll should have seen the face the Hotel
Manager had when we unloaded 2 large
trunks full of "LAN PARTY" Gear...

lullabud · 06-07-2002

what amazes me is how much i can't power off an inverter... that is, when the car is turned off. i think i'm going to have to buy a new battery for my car because i've just killed mine one too many times. i think batteries are like cats, they have more than 1 life but they're not immortal.

er.... they're not mortal either. you get the point.

agentgrn · 06-09-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by lullabud
what amazes me is how much i can't power off an inverter... that is, when the car is turned off. i think i'm going to have to buy a new battery for my car because i've just killed mine one too many times.

I think it's time someone developed a PowerStumbler plug in...so when you get closer to those juicy access points, you can roll out some cord and plug in.

06-05-2002	#1 (permalink)
Sh00t3r Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 199	nissan wireless cars Saw 2 brand new nissan cars today, not sure of the model, that were trailing each other by about 200 feet. I noticed a fatty omni directional antenna on the car trailing. I pulled up closer to notice the antenna was from hyperlinktech. That really sparked me to catch up closer. As I pulled up to the trailing car I noticed their pimp setup. One driver, and one sittin shotty controlling a laptop on a profesionally mounted stand. On the front windshield they had some sort of antenna-range detector suction cupped pointed towards the leader car. The leader car also had a nice omni and also another antenna mounted on the roof that resembled a GPS antenna you see on vans and fed ex trucks. But it was much much smaller. Rear facing antenna-range detector also mounted in rear windshield. Once again, driver and shotty w/laptop. My guess is that they were running some possible tests for automatic drive control and distancing. They had manufacturers plates and i've never seen that car model before. Anyone else see anything like this before? I live in michigan, used to be near alot of proving grounds and tests tracks for ford and gm but this was right on the xpress way. Would love it if they were pimpin 802.11b. Too bad i didn't have my laptop w/me. would've ran stumbler and sniffer wireless scannin channels. Well maybe next time!

06-06-2002	#3 (permalink)
Sh00t3r Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 199	couldn't tell I was driving like a mad man trying to catch up to em so i couldn't really tell.

06-06-2002	#4 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,008	Stanford (I think) had a Pent I ~300MHz driving a car with "slaves" following about 2-3 years ago. It was on Discovery Channel. If Nissan is doing real world testing, whether distance warning or something else, then a car-to-car AdHoc WLAN makes a lot of sense. __________________ Thorn Sex and Violence. You can't enjoy one, if you don't survive the other. (And that works both ways...)

06-07-2002	#8 (permalink)
Madhadder General "Noob Basher" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 1,620	Mobile WLAN On the way up the Hannover for CEBIT 2002, my friends and I tried this out... There were 3 cars. Car 1 & 3 had Laptops/Lucent Gold Cards & Omni's on top.. Car 2 had a Linksys WAP11 also with ext Antt. Now we had been told that WLAN connections will work on moving cars at up to 40-50mph but loose the signal after that. Well It got me thinking that maybe they were correct IF the AP was fixed at a certain location, but what would happen if both the AP and the clients were moving at 40-60mph or faster..... Well, we got all the cars within .5-1k together and cranked it up. We were able to connect/chat/xfer files etc. The only thing we didn't have was an Internet connection. I guess we could have but running it at 9600 on a cell phone would not only be VERY slow but also a lot of $$$... This setup worked fine as long as all cars stayed within range, even up to 190KPH, but at any speed it's best to have a driver/operator combination so you will get to where you are going, in one piece. Try it out,and post the results/pictures, but PLEASE BE CAREFULL.

06-07-2002	#12 (permalink)
Madhadder General "Noob Basher" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 1,620	Why Wap11 Quote: MadHatter, why did you use the WAP11? Or putting it a different way, why didn't you just go with an AdHoc peer to peer mode? Just curious. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because I could.... And because We also had 2 Wired PC in the back on a Switch. It stillamazes me just how much stuff you can power off an Inverter.

06-05-2002	#2 (permalink)
Dr3D1zzl3 Mental Penis Fencer Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 371	ill put my money on a distance warning type application. Maybe not auto drive (that would be bad ass thought) Did the driver have his hands on the wheel?

06-06-2002	#5 (permalink)
lullabud Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 261	anybody else ever tried ad-hoc while moving? it'd be phat to have an irc server or something to chat between members of a caravan. =) we used frs radios on the way to a concert once but sharing files, chatting, maybe some gaming... that's the life right there. now if we could just manage a satellite uplink and infrastructure mode......... hmmmm...... ::scratches chin and looks to the sky::

06-06-2002	#7 (permalink)
lullabud Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 261	hahahah, nice. =) i think i have a pasta strainer that might work, now that you mention it... i just wish i had those old metal disc sleds from when i was in elementary school.

06-07-2002	#11 (permalink)
lullabud Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 261	WAP11 or not, that's still phat as hell. =) some guy netstumbling by is going to be submitting some seriously bunk GPS data for your AP. ;-)

06-07-2002	#13 (permalink)
Madhadder General "Noob Basher" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 1,620	Mobile Setup Almost forgot, Make sure your Antt. are REALLY, and I mean REALLY Attached to something. We had a prob. with this when we started.... But it's nothing Military grade 100MPH tape can't handle I suppose you could also use the WAP11 Hack to gain some more coverage/distance/get a stronger signal. Sidenote: Ya'll should have seen the face the Hotel Manager had when we unloaded 2 large trunks full of "LAN PARTY" Gear... Last edited by Madhadder : 06-07-2002 at 04:33 PM.

06-07-2002	#14 (permalink)
lullabud Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 261	what amazes me is how much i can't power off an inverter... that is, when the car is turned off. i think i'm going to have to buy a new battery for my car because i've just killed mine one too many times. i think batteries are like cats, they have more than 1 life but they're not immortal. er.... they're not mortal either. you get the point.

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