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matefrio · 06-13-2002

UK Satellite Enthusiast Picks Up NATO Spy Pix
Thu Jun 13,10:10 AM ET
By Paul Majendie

LONDON (Reuters) - A British satellite enthusiast said on Thursday NATO ( news - web sites) troops in the Balkans could be endangered by the wide availability of U.S. spy plane photo transmissions.

The freely available pictures by both manned spy planes and drones can pinpoint a location to within six feet, and can be seen by anyone with a television satellite dish, journalist John Locker said.

"It's frightening -- I am amazed," he told Reuters. "Even before September 11, this is not the sort of stuff that should be shown openly."

"This could put troops at risk on the ground," he said. "Those pictures are within real time of three seconds."

Locker said he had spent the last seven months alerting NATO and U.S. military commanders to the free availability of the pictures, without result.

NATO said it was not concerned about possible security breaches but American officials confirmed plans were in hand to encrypt the data.

Locker, who picked up the broadcast from the Telstar satellite over Brazil at home on his satellite dish, stressed he was not tapping into anything.

"This is not an intercept," he said. "I am not a hacker -- this is free to air programming."

He said pictures he has seen covered military exercises on the ground in Macedonia and further north in the Sarajevo area in Bosnia. Clearly visible were troops on the ground, armored personnel carriers and a helicopter.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...veillance_dc_6

blackwave · 06-13-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by matefrio
"This is not an intercept," he said. "I am not a hacker -- this is free to air programming."

I hate using the word hate... but
I HATE WHEN PEOPLE USE THESE TYPES OF QUOTES...

Chances are it is a misquote and the person never said the word hacker, but was added by the media... that or the person is just another moo-cow, who has seen too many cyber-movies.

Thorn · 06-13-2002

I know what you mean... Recently I was speaking with a reporter, and I tried to differenciate between a hacker and a cracker. This reporter had never heard the word "cracker" used in that context and wanted to know if it was a new term.

blackwave · 06-13-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Thorn
I know what you mean... Recently I was speaking with a reporter, and I tried to differenciate between a hacker and a cracker. This reporter had never heard the word "cracker" used in that context and wanted to know if it was a new term.

Yes now when talking of such gray matters I no longer refer to them as hacking, cracking, etc... I tell them, you either are attacking, or you are defending. If someone broke into your system, they attacked you, and are to be labled as attacker... I can accept attacker because it is generalized as a person that used some method to attempt to penetrate a system.

I think I only use the HPVAC vocab for those whom I know what the words mean and that are able to use them without stereotyping into always being bad.

I would suggest if anyone does talk to the media to push this new system of verbiage to them, and knock it straight into their head so they may vomit it among the masses. We are sick of being labled as the bad guy... and don't get me started with hat colors.. that is another farce in itself.

lincomatic · 06-13-2002

when i was in college, a "hacker" was just an ace programmer but the word's been morphing into other meanings ever since.
i agree w/ you guys in disliking its use to represent something sinister nowaways.

lullabud · 06-14-2002

contrarily, it's nice to see when people use it right, like this guy i knew at HP who was like "yeah... we got hit with melissa last week. now guess who's all out there looking to hire hackers to fix their system?". my friend bryce once got interviewed by some newspaper about some computer crime and he just started making up random terms to label people, it was pretty funny. =)

06-13-2002	#1 (permalink)
matefrio Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5	Space stumbling? UK Satellite Enthusiast Picks Up NATO Spy Pix Thu Jun 13,10:10 AM ET By Paul Majendie LONDON (Reuters) - A British satellite enthusiast said on Thursday NATO ( news - web sites) troops in the Balkans could be endangered by the wide availability of U.S. spy plane photo transmissions. The freely available pictures by both manned spy planes and drones can pinpoint a location to within six feet, and can be seen by anyone with a television satellite dish, journalist John Locker said. "It's frightening -- I am amazed," he told Reuters. "Even before September 11, this is not the sort of stuff that should be shown openly." "This could put troops at risk on the ground," he said. "Those pictures are within real time of three seconds." Locker said he had spent the last seven months alerting NATO and U.S. military commanders to the free availability of the pictures, without result. NATO said it was not concerned about possible security breaches but American officials confirmed plans were in hand to encrypt the data. Locker, who picked up the broadcast from the Telstar satellite over Brazil at home on his satellite dish, stressed he was not tapping into anything. "This is not an intercept," he said. "I am not a hacker -- this is free to air programming." He said pictures he has seen covered military exercises on the ground in Macedonia and further north in the Sarajevo area in Bosnia. Clearly visible were troops on the ground, armored personnel carriers and a helicopter. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...veillance_dc_6

06-13-2002	#3 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,084	I know what you mean... Recently I was speaking with a reporter, and I tried to differenciate between a hacker and a cracker. This reporter had never heard the word "cracker" used in that context and wanted to know if it was a new term. __________________ Thorn "I'm The Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I am from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation Kasterborous. I'm 903 years old and I am the man who is going to save your lives and all 6 billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?"

06-13-2002	#5 (permalink)
lincomatic Squaaawk! WiFi! WiFi! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tinsel Town Posts: 1,682	when i was in college, a "hacker" was just an ace programmer but the word's been morphing into other meanings ever since. i agree w/ you guys in disliking its use to represent something sinister nowaways. __________________ ~lincomatic

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06-14-2002	#6 (permalink)
lullabud Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 261	contrarily, it's nice to see when people use it right, like this guy i knew at HP who was like "yeah... we got hit with melissa last week. now guess who's all out there looking to hire hackers to fix their system?". my friend bryce once got interviewed by some newspaper about some computer crime and he just started making up random terms to label people, it was pretty funny. =)