War FLYING

sjmaks · 05-30-2002

I don't know how many of you subscribe to the vuln-dev listserv, but this came across it and I thought it was both amusing and interesting at the same time. What next, war submarining?

From: "Matthew F. Caldwell" <mattc@guarded.net>

While conducting an aerial (yes FLY-BY hacking) wireless audit for a client, the following information was gleaned. I thought the statistics were nice to give a good perspective in a metropolitan area. The reason for flying was, well RF at high frequencies "line of sight" rules. This flight was conducted around 3000ft MSL with a 15db Gain Antenna mounted on the wing , and a Lucent gold card.

382 Access Points total Detected

191 Access Points had default SSID's (linksys, default, etc.)

92 Access Points had WEP

To sum up only 24% had WEP and 50 percent had default SSID’s, which means they more than likely, have default passwords etc.

Oralis · 05-30-2002

Once again we all see how the general public will keep us all in our security jobs for a VERY long time.

"I have lots'o'money, set me up with wireless"
"But of course don't make it secure"

---Oralis

blackwave · 05-30-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by sjmaks

While conducting an aerial (yes FLY-BY hacking) wireless audit for a client, the following information was gleaned. I thought the statistics were nice to give a good perspective in a metropolitan area. The reason for flying was, well RF at high frequencies "line of sight" rules. This flight was conducted around 3000ft MSL with a 15db Gain Antenna mounted on the wing , and a Lucent gold card.

I think this board has a few warFlyers...

http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...1039#post11039

http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...&threadid=1733

MrBentor · 06-18-2002

I have thought of stumble-flying myself. Kinda' hard to carry a Laptop (see http://www.eskimo.com/~delisle/ftp/p...de/flying.html ) while I am flying my paraglider. I'd probably need a little I-paq or something.
Could cover a bit of ground in a cross-country flight.

MrBentor · 06-18-2002

I have thought of stumble-flying myself. Kinda' hard to carry a Laptop (see http://www.eskimo.com/~delisle/ftp/p...de/flying.html ) while I am flying my paraglider. I'd probably need a little I-paq or something.
Could cover a bit of ground in a cross-country flight.

blackwave · 06-18-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by MrBentor
Could cover a bit of ground in a cross-country flight.

Pretty sweet, I have always wanted to try one of those. You may also need a high gain directional so you can warfly from a distance, I don't see one of those going over houses too well... How do they handle, btw? Are you actually flying, or are you just slowly falling?

MrBentor · 06-19-2002

They fly pretty well if there is enough thermal or ridge lift. I've gone 50 miles in one, and I know people who have done 3x that. It flys a little like a barkalounger tied to a jellyfish. 10 to 25 mph airspeed. A flight at the same mountain may be 5 min., or 5 hrs. Depends on the weather.

When I get something like an I-Pac I may just try a hanging a Pringles or yagi antenna below my harness. However I am usually 1,000 to 5,000 feet above the ground and I am unsure how much RF there is radiating to vertical plane.

05-30-2002	#1 (permalink)
sjmaks Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11	War FLYING I don't know how many of you subscribe to the vuln-dev listserv, but this came across it and I thought it was both amusing and interesting at the same time. What next, war submarining? From: "Matthew F. Caldwell" <mattc@guarded.net> While conducting an aerial (yes FLY-BY hacking) wireless audit for a client, the following information was gleaned. I thought the statistics were nice to give a good perspective in a metropolitan area. The reason for flying was, well RF at high frequencies "line of sight" rules. This flight was conducted around 3000ft MSL with a 15db Gain Antenna mounted on the wing , and a Lucent gold card. 382 Access Points total Detected 191 Access Points had default SSID's (linksys, default, etc.) 92 Access Points had WEP To sum up only 24% had WEP and 50 percent had default SSID’s, which means they more than likely, have default passwords etc.

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05-30-2002	#2 (permalink)
Oralis Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 25	Once again we all see how the general public will keep us all in our security jobs for a VERY long time. "I have lots'o'money, set me up with wireless" "But of course don't make it secure" ---Oralis

06-18-2002	#4 (permalink)
MrBentor Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6	I have thought of stumble-flying myself. Kinda' hard to carry a Laptop (see http://www.eskimo.com/~delisle/ftp/p...de/flying.html ) while I am flying my paraglider. I'd probably need a little I-paq or something. Could cover a bit of ground in a cross-country flight.

06-18-2002	#5 (permalink)
MrBentor Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6	I have thought of stumble-flying myself. Kinda' hard to carry a Laptop (see http://www.eskimo.com/~delisle/ftp/p...de/flying.html ) while I am flying my paraglider. I'd probably need a little I-paq or something. Could cover a bit of ground in a cross-country flight.

06-19-2002	#7 (permalink)
MrBentor Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6	They fly pretty well if there is enough thermal or ridge lift. I've gone 50 miles in one, and I know people who have done 3x that. It flys a little like a barkalounger tied to a jellyfish. 10 to 25 mph airspeed. A flight at the same mountain may be 5 min., or 5 hrs. Depends on the weather. When I get something like an I-Pac I may just try a hanging a Pringles or yagi antenna below my harness. However I am usually 1,000 to 5,000 feet above the ground and I am unsure how much RF there is radiating to vertical plane.