Colorado - Page 2

01-04-2002

FYI, I found that if you go into the buildings downtown rather than trying to access it from outside, you will find a lot more networks. I went into a multi-level building and found four more networks then what I found from outside. Sounds like common sense but it didn't occur to me until the last minute. The kool thing about going inside of random buildings is that nobody really cares what you're doing and it's a lot warmer.

01-07-2002

colorado is so friggin cold that it sort of sucks to stumble in the winter, (at least at night, which is when me and dr. nazo are up) but you get much better signal strength in the dry air and trees with no leaves. should've left my gps with dr. nazo...

01-07-2002

it would be intersting to see how many AP apper during the winter olmpys. am sure that the news people would bring them for there laptops... im not going to be there but like hotles and other such sites were media and tourist would be... like a befor during and after scan.. that would be the best

01-14-2002

man, i was in salt lake a few weeks ago too and didn't even think of stumbling while i was there. i guess i was just in too much of a hurry to get home to colorado... yeah, that would be interesting to see how many temp wlans pop up and how many stick around. i got no time to do it though. =)

01-14-2002

The other night I was stumblin in CO. It was kind of cold. It wasn't snowing at the time that I started and I wasn't finding too many APs. All of the sudden the snow started to fall lightly, no wind or anything. As soon as it started to snow I started to pick up APs on just about every block. In fact one network that I had barely detected before in a building was now showing 4 APs and all were barking loud. I would have thought that snow would decrease the signal.

02-17-2002

I was just at the Olympics the last few days. Luckily MiniStumbler came out just before I left, so I was able to carry my IPAQ around one night through Downtown SLC. I didn't find anything that looked official olympic. Everything related to the olympics seemed to be wired. Anyhow I did find "Air2Data" and "C&C" as two popular SSIDs 4 and 5 respectivly. I was only using the built antenna on the Orinoco card, so I probally missed some. The stumble was around downtown, Olympic square, Washington Park, and the TRAX line. One other thing I saw was these patch looking antennas mounted on a lot of roofs, pointing downtown, they were all square, but tilted so that they formed diamonds. Does anyone know if SLC hase some kind of large area wireless network.
PS MiniStumbler is awesome. I live in boulder, and will defiently put it to good use.

02-18-2002

I'm just getting started in the SLC area. I'm in the south of the valley, up on the benches with a great line-of-sight view of most of the valley.

Per the last post - those diamond antennas all over the valley are Sprint BroadBand (aka Sprint FraudBand). It's a MMDS-based wireless system. When it works, it works very well - up to 4Mbit/sec down. Upload speeds are lousy - only about 80Kbps on a good day. The real problem with the service is the latency (50ms-1500ms, average about 450ms), and the micro-outages (10-45 seconds of no connectivity). OK for web browsing, but any VPN/Live/gaming sucks big time.

Anyhow - I just ordered some antennas for both mobile and fixed use (see my post in the hardware section). Anyone in the valley have a 250mW-1W amp I could try out? A local company came by the other day to setup a 802.11-based Internet service. With their 24dBi antenna and a 300mW amp, they hit tons of APs from my house. So, I have an antenna on order and am thinking about an amp. I wanted to try it without the amp for a bit before I plunk down $300. But, if anyone has a amp in the SLC area please reply.

Finally - if you're in the SLC area and like gaming, be sure to join us in Draper for a weekend LAN party. More details at http://www.os-library.com/killinc/.

See ya,

CRM114

03-11-2002

Looks like some local money grubber is setting up a pay for wireless ISP in Palmer Lake (North of C. Spgs). Got some good hits there.

03-14-2002

I loive in downtown Denver and I am going to start looking for open AP's. Any locations near Wazee and 14th?

03-16-2002

I am in salt lake and have started driving around with a stumbler and would be willing to help.

03-16-2002

I am in salt lake and have started driving around with a stumbler and would be willing to help. voidfiles@hotmail.com

03-18-2002

Boulder, Downtown Denver, Tech Center, Downtown Colorado Springs, near the Universities are all really interesting... Anyone else out there?

03-18-2002

My most memorable experience is stumbling downtown Colorado Springs and finding an open AP at Chipotle. I went inside and thinking it's open for the public, bought a big burrito and surfed CNN, Netstumbler.com, Slashdot and a few of my other favorite sites.

This manager walked by and asks me - so you are surfing the Internet? I replied yes. He probes further are you using a cellular network? I replied well sortof, I'm using the network your company put up. Thank you very much for letting me use it. You should have seen this guy light up like a lightbulb. He could hardly contain himself. He said the system here is for managers only for placing orders with the head office and with the wireless access point we can sit out in the customer seating area and not the hot, crowded kitchen. I replied to him you know, I would not have come in here and bought this burrito if you were not offering free internet. However, since that is not your intention, I'm a Systems Engineer and would be happy to help you secure your network. On the other hand, you can make your system available to the public with some hack-proofing and use it to draw customers. Here is my business card. He took my business card and I never heard from him since.

I've been back to Chipotle since on several occasions. The AP is still open and they don't bother me when I surf there over lunch.

03-18-2002

There's a Chipotle with an open access point in the Park Meadows area (just west of the mall) - always fun to surf while you're eating a big honking burrito!

03-19-2002

I go to CU-Boulder, campus has about 40 access points, about 2/3 are for use in various schools i.e B-School, Law Library, and the E-Center, the others appear to be just for personal use or maybe deaprtment use, almost none of them have WEP, although there is a MAC address authentication scheme to prevent unauthorized access. I am working on mapping the campus out similar to what was done at Kansas for a networking class, has anyone worked much with GIS programs, or is in the boulder area.

01-07-2002	#17 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	winter stumbling in colorado colorado is so friggin cold that it sort of sucks to stumble in the winter, (at least at night, which is when me and dr. nazo are up) but you get much better signal strength in the dry air and trees with no leaves. should've left my gps with dr. nazo...

01-14-2002	#19 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	salt lake (olympic) stumble man, i was in salt lake a few weeks ago too and didn't even think of stumbling while i was there. i guess i was just in too much of a hurry to get home to colorado... yeah, that would be interesting to see how many temp wlans pop up and how many stick around. i got no time to do it though. =)

01-14-2002	#20 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Snow The other night I was stumblin in CO. It was kind of cold. It wasn't snowing at the time that I started and I wasn't finding too many APs. All of the sudden the snow started to fall lightly, no wind or anything. As soon as it started to snow I started to pick up APs on just about every block. In fact one network that I had barely detected before in a building was now showing 4 APs and all were barking loud. I would have thought that snow would decrease the signal.

02-18-2002	#22 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	SLC Area I'm just getting started in the SLC area. I'm in the south of the valley, up on the benches with a great line-of-sight view of most of the valley. Per the last post - those diamond antennas all over the valley are Sprint BroadBand (aka Sprint FraudBand). It's a MMDS-based wireless system. When it works, it works very well - up to 4Mbit/sec down. Upload speeds are lousy - only about 80Kbps on a good day. The real problem with the service is the latency (50ms-1500ms, average about 450ms), and the micro-outages (10-45 seconds of no connectivity). OK for web browsing, but any VPN/Live/gaming sucks big time. Anyhow - I just ordered some antennas for both mobile and fixed use (see my post in the hardware section). Anyone in the valley have a 250mW-1W amp I could try out? A local company came by the other day to setup a 802.11-based Internet service. With their 24dBi antenna and a 300mW amp, they hit tons of APs from my house. So, I have an antenna on order and am thinking about an amp. I wanted to try it without the amp for a bit before I plunk down $300. But, if anyone has a amp in the SLC area please reply. Finally - if you're in the SLC area and like gaming, be sure to join us in Draper for a weekend LAN party. More details at http://www.os-library.com/killinc/. See ya, CRM114

03-11-2002	#23 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Palmer Lake Looks like some local money grubber is setting up a pay for wireless ISP in Palmer Lake (North of C. Spgs). Got some good hits there.

01-04-2002	#16 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	FYI, I found that if you go into the buildings downtown rather than trying to access it from outside, you will find a lot more networks. I went into a multi-level building and found four more networks then what I found from outside. Sounds like common sense but it didn't occur to me until the last minute. The kool thing about going inside of random buildings is that nobody really cares what you're doing and it's a lot warmer.

01-07-2002	#18 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	it would be intersting to see how many AP apper during the winter olmpys. am sure that the news people would bring them for there laptops... im not going to be there but like hotles and other such sites were media and tourist would be... like a befor during and after scan.. that would be the best

02-17-2002	#21 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I was just at the Olympics the last few days. Luckily MiniStumbler came out just before I left, so I was able to carry my IPAQ around one night through Downtown SLC. I didn't find anything that looked official olympic. Everything related to the olympics seemed to be wired. Anyhow I did find "Air2Data" and "C&C" as two popular SSIDs 4 and 5 respectivly. I was only using the built antenna on the Orinoco card, so I probally missed some. The stumble was around downtown, Olympic square, Washington Park, and the TRAX line. One other thing I saw was these patch looking antennas mounted on a lot of roofs, pointing downtown, they were all square, but tilted so that they formed diamonds. Does anyone know if SLC hase some kind of large area wireless network. PS MiniStumbler is awesome. I live in boulder, and will defiently put it to good use.

03-14-2002	#24 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Downtown Denver I loive in downtown Denver and I am going to start looking for open AP's. Any locations near Wazee and 14th?

03-16-2002	#25 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I am in S.l.c. I am in salt lake and have started driving around with a stumbler and would be willing to help.

03-16-2002	#26 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I am in S.l.c. I am in salt lake and have started driving around with a stumbler and would be willing to help. voidfiles@hotmail.com

03-18-2002	#27 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Boulder / Denver / Colorado Springs / Pueblo Boulder, Downtown Denver, Tech Center, Downtown Colorado Springs, near the Universities are all really interesting... Anyone else out there?

03-18-2002	#28 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Colorado Springs... Busted at Chipotle My most memorable experience is stumbling downtown Colorado Springs and finding an open AP at Chipotle. I went inside and thinking it's open for the public, bought a big burrito and surfed CNN, Netstumbler.com, Slashdot and a few of my other favorite sites. This manager walked by and asks me - so you are surfing the Internet? I replied yes. He probes further are you using a cellular network? I replied well sortof, I'm using the network your company put up. Thank you very much for letting me use it. You should have seen this guy light up like a lightbulb. He could hardly contain himself. He said the system here is for managers only for placing orders with the head office and with the wireless access point we can sit out in the customer seating area and not the hot, crowded kitchen. I replied to him you know, I would not have come in here and bought this burrito if you were not offering free internet. However, since that is not your intention, I'm a Systems Engineer and would be happy to help you secure your network. On the other hand, you can make your system available to the public with some hack-proofing and use it to draw customers. Here is my business card. He took my business card and I never heard from him since. I've been back to Chipotle since on several occasions. The AP is still open and they don't bother me when I surf there over lunch.

03-18-2002	#29 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	There's a Chipotle with an open access point in the Park Meadows area (just west of the mall) - always fun to surf while you're eating a big honking burrito!

03-19-2002	#30 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I go to CU-Boulder, campus has about 40 access points, about 2/3 are for use in various schools i.e B-School, Law Library, and the E-Center, the others appear to be just for personal use or maybe deaprtment use, almost none of them have WEP, although there is a MAC address authentication scheme to prevent unauthorized access. I am working on mapping the campus out similar to what was done at Kansas for a networking class, has anyone worked much with GIS programs, or is in the boulder area.

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