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03-17-2002

get your ass over to england, there are loads over here, only joking m8

03-17-2002

hi,
Use an Ipaq here with an old silver card.. works great.. nice and portable.. als have a gps here that I can hook up..

I just visit AMS now and than.. based in Apeldoorn here.. just a tiny bit of wireless activity here..

A

03-17-2002

I have the GPS, but not the IPAQ (yet), and it's a shame that there is no port for Psion/EPOC (that's what I currently use my GPS with), cos that's the only PDA I have right now. I'd love to sort out some kit, but I'm not sure I should just yet.

If I did, it would probably be an IPAQ 3760/3650 with a single PC Card sleeve, an Orinoco Silver card (where did you get yours, btw - I read that you need an old firmware to be able to use promiscuous mode), and a Compaq RS-232 serial cable to hook up to the 9 pin cable that goes to my eTrex.

I'm really curious to see what you were getting when you were near the places you mentioned. I guess if you strapped all the necessary gear to the handlebars of a bike and rode around, you could collect quite a lot of APs! I guess your tour just took you down Damrak and into Kalverstraat - I wonder what else is out there?

03-17-2002

These were the ones i found in amsterdam with monitoring

N 52.3608517 E 4.8911833 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:05:87 ) 19:37:14 (GMT) [ 36 83 47 ] # ( ) 11 800 100
N 52.3621483 E 4.8918867 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:1d:1f:0b ) 19:37:57 (GMT) [ 27 79 52 ] # ( ) 11 800 100
N 52.3678883 E 4.8947700 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:1d:1e:f7 ) 19:38:06 (GMT) [ 27 78 51 ] # ( ) 11 800 100
N 52.3689833 E 4.8921100 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:3b:ce ) 19:39:54 (GMT) [ 12 71 59 ] # ( ) 11 800 100
N 52.3708300 E 4.8926900 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:3b:94 ) 19:40:05 (GMT) [ 36 87 51 ] # ( ) 11 2 100
N 52.3702500 E 4.8925083 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:09:50:4e ) 19:40:23 (GMT) [ 13 67 54 ] # ( ) 11 2 100
N 52.3744517 E 4.8950167 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:05:38 ) 19:40:56 (GMT) [ 35 87 52 ] # ( ) 11 2 100
N 52.3767050 E 4.8979483 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:1d:1e:23 ) 19:41:41 (GMT) [ 31 81 50 ] # ( ) 11 8 100
N 52.3747750 E 4.9044017 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:09:b7:10 ) 20:08:48 (GMT) [ 6 57 51 ] # ( ) 11 8 100

03-17-2002

I also found these in amsterdam. most are open

N 52.3558350 E 4.9113567 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:40:59 ) 19:25:47 (GMT) [ 21 74 53 ] # ( ) 21 80 100
N 52.3561317 E 4.9100000 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:45:a0 ) 19:25:49 (GMT) [ 23 74 51 ] # ( ) 21 80 100
N 52.3559983 E 4.9094833 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:7b:ea ) 19:25:56 (GMT) [ 28 78 50 ] # ( ) 21 80 100
N 52.3560617 E 4.9097400 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:6e:22 ) 19:26:02 (GMT) [ 28 78 50 ] # ( ) 21 80 100
N 52.3599367 E 4.9089567 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:44:9a:d8 ) 19:26:28 (GMT) [ 20 71 51 ] # ( ) 21 80 100
N 52.3610400 E 4.9074467 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:44:d2:59 ) 19:35:11 (GMT) [ 14 64 50 ] # ( ) 21 80 100
N 52.3610833 E 4.9075283 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:44:b2:83 ) 20:02:30 (GMT) [ 10 59 49 ] # ( ) 21 80 100
N 52.3561317 E 4.9100000 ( hesstaf ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:28:11 ) 19:25:52 (GMT) [ 7 59 52 ] # ( ) 31 80 100
N 52.3564333 E 4.9049233 ( hesstaf ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:80:57 ) 19:30:48 (GMT) [ 17 66 49 ] # ( ) 31 80 100
N 52.3561317 E 4.9100000 ( hesstaf ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:67:f4 ) 19:34:25 (GMT) [ 36 89 53 ] # ( ) 31 80 100

03-17-2002

Im looking at doing utrect soon rob so i offer you a seat an antenna and a warm ride around as long as you can be the navigator.

I wonder if we could run one system with mappoint 2002 and the gps with a trace so we dont over do what we have done then run the other to pick up the AP's.

I also want to check out schipol

I will have some maps at

http://veteransmc.com/wireless.htm

03-17-2002

I have just posted the maps i have or amsterdam at
www.veteransmc.com/wireless.htm

03-17-2002

Hmm.. that url doesn't work..

03-17-2002

yea when is the port for epoc comming out... i have a revo so i dont think that it could help me at all but still it is a good os better than palm... just think a nokia with netstumber...

ps i should tell you all that i live in the usa so many poeple get a kick out of seeing a non palm based hand held and dont understand why i say i must have a keyboard

03-18-2002

I'm up for all that, as I'm pretty new to this lark, but seriously interested in learning as much as I can. I can navigate, no problems..!

BTW - I like the pics of your kit (what is that laptop/workpad that's missing a keyboard? touch-sensitive screen, right? nice!), but I couldn't get the .swf pics to open in my browser. What format are they in? Am I right in thinking that you need Mappoint or something similar to view them?

03-18-2002

Yeah, a Psion version of MiniStumbler might just work, since there's a CF slot free (only down side is that there's a damn door that closes over the card - unless it could be removed). And the GPS support is great, with route planning software already installed on mine.

I couldn't get the maps to open, or view "AP test comparison"/"Bridging and wireless hops", but I could view the kit pics.

03-18-2002

the file format is flash.

go to www.macromedia.com and download the latest flash player. i think it 5

the computer is an intermec 6650 with gps and 802.11b card installed. (GPS is not the one supplied by intermec.)

It is a touch screen.

mail me.

kforster@drm.nl

03-18-2002

for some reason it doesn't work for some people. others have visited the site and said it works ok.

03-18-2002

I downloaded flash - nice maps! a lot of AP's in the binnenring, huh?!?

the maps are a combo of mappoint and stumbverter, right?

03-18-2002

you were right that downloading macromedia flash was the key to being able to view the maps...

03-17-2002	#19 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	amsterdam These were the ones i found in amsterdam with monitoring N 52.3608517 E 4.8911833 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:05:87 ) 19:37:14 (GMT) [ 36 83 47 ] # ( ) 11 800 100 N 52.3621483 E 4.8918867 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:1d:1f:0b ) 19:37:57 (GMT) [ 27 79 52 ] # ( ) 11 800 100 N 52.3678883 E 4.8947700 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:1d:1e:f7 ) 19:38:06 (GMT) [ 27 78 51 ] # ( ) 11 800 100 N 52.3689833 E 4.8921100 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:3b:ce ) 19:39:54 (GMT) [ 12 71 59 ] # ( ) 11 800 100 N 52.3708300 E 4.8926900 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:3b:94 ) 19:40:05 (GMT) [ 36 87 51 ] # ( ) 11 2 100 N 52.3702500 E 4.8925083 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:09:50:4e ) 19:40:23 (GMT) [ 13 67 54 ] # ( ) 11 2 100 N 52.3744517 E 4.8950167 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:02:05:38 ) 19:40:56 (GMT) [ 35 87 52 ] # ( ) 11 2 100 N 52.3767050 E 4.8979483 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:1d:1e:23 ) 19:41:41 (GMT) [ 31 81 50 ] # ( ) 11 8 100 N 52.3747750 E 4.9044017 ( monitoring ) BBS ( 00:02:2d:09:b7:10 ) 20:08:48 (GMT) [ 6 57 51 ] # ( ) 11 8 100

03-17-2002	#21 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	cool Im looking at doing utrect soon rob so i offer you a seat an antenna and a warm ride around as long as you can be the navigator. I wonder if we could run one system with mappoint 2002 and the gps with a trace so we dont over do what we have done then run the other to pick up the AP's. I also want to check out schipol I will have some maps at http://veteransmc.com/wireless.htm

03-17-2002	#22 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	maps I have just posted the maps i have or amsterdam at www.veteransmc.com/wireless.htm

03-17-2002	#24 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	epoc yea when is the port for epoc comming out... i have a revo so i dont think that it could help me at all but still it is a good os better than palm... just think a nokia with netstumber... ps i should tell you all that i live in the usa so many poeple get a kick out of seeing a non palm based hand held and dont understand why i say i must have a keyboard

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03-17-2002	#16 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	get your ass over to england, there are loads over here, only joking m8

03-17-2002	#17 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	hi, Use an Ipaq here with an old silver card.. works great.. nice and portable.. als have a gps here that I can hook up.. I just visit AMS now and than.. based in Apeldoorn here.. just a tiny bit of wireless activity here.. A

03-17-2002	#18 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I have the GPS, but not the IPAQ (yet), and it's a shame that there is no port for Psion/EPOC (that's what I currently use my GPS with), cos that's the only PDA I have right now. I'd love to sort out some kit, but I'm not sure I should just yet. If I did, it would probably be an IPAQ 3760/3650 with a single PC Card sleeve, an Orinoco Silver card (where did you get yours, btw - I read that you need an old firmware to be able to use promiscuous mode), and a Compaq RS-232 serial cable to hook up to the 9 pin cable that goes to my eTrex. I'm really curious to see what you were getting when you were near the places you mentioned. I guess if you strapped all the necessary gear to the handlebars of a bike and rode around, you could collect quite a lot of APs! I guess your tour just took you down Damrak and into Kalverstraat - I wonder what else is out there?

03-17-2002	#20 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I also found these in amsterdam. most are open N 52.3558350 E 4.9113567 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:40:59 ) 19:25:47 (GMT) [ 21 74 53 ] # ( ) 21 80 100 N 52.3561317 E 4.9100000 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:45:a0 ) 19:25:49 (GMT) [ 23 74 51 ] # ( ) 21 80 100 N 52.3559983 E 4.9094833 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:7b:ea ) 19:25:56 (GMT) [ 28 78 50 ] # ( ) 21 80 100 N 52.3560617 E 4.9097400 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:6e:22 ) 19:26:02 (GMT) [ 28 78 50 ] # ( ) 21 80 100 N 52.3599367 E 4.9089567 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:44:9a:d8 ) 19:26:28 (GMT) [ 20 71 51 ] # ( ) 21 80 100 N 52.3610400 E 4.9074467 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:44:d2:59 ) 19:35:11 (GMT) [ 14 64 50 ] # ( ) 21 80 100 N 52.3610833 E 4.9075283 ( hesnotebook ) BBS ( 00:40:96:44:b2:83 ) 20:02:30 (GMT) [ 10 59 49 ] # ( ) 21 80 100 N 52.3561317 E 4.9100000 ( hesstaf ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:28:11 ) 19:25:52 (GMT) [ 7 59 52 ] # ( ) 31 80 100 N 52.3564333 E 4.9049233 ( hesstaf ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:80:57 ) 19:30:48 (GMT) [ 17 66 49 ] # ( ) 31 80 100 N 52.3561317 E 4.9100000 ( hesstaf ) BBS ( 00:40:96:55:67:f4 ) 19:34:25 (GMT) [ 36 89 53 ] # ( ) 31 80 100

03-17-2002	#23 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Hmm.. that url doesn't work..

03-18-2002	#25 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I'm up for all that, as I'm pretty new to this lark, but seriously interested in learning as much as I can. I can navigate, no problems..! BTW - I like the pics of your kit (what is that laptop/workpad that's missing a keyboard? touch-sensitive screen, right? nice!), but I couldn't get the .swf pics to open in my browser. What format are they in? Am I right in thinking that you need Mappoint or something similar to view them?

03-18-2002	#26 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Yeah, a Psion version of MiniStumbler might just work, since there's a CF slot free (only down side is that there's a damn door that closes over the card - unless it could be removed). And the GPS support is great, with route planning software already installed on mine. I couldn't get the maps to open, or view "AP test comparison"/"Bridging and wireless hops", but I could view the kit pics.

03-18-2002	#27 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	the file format is flash. go to www.macromedia.com and download the latest flash player. i think it 5 the computer is an intermec 6650 with gps and 802.11b card installed. (GPS is not the one supplied by intermec.) It is a touch screen. mail me. kforster@drm.nl

03-18-2002	#28 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	for some reason it doesn't work for some people. others have visited the site and said it works ok.

03-18-2002	#29 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I downloaded flash - nice maps! a lot of AP's in the binnenring, huh?!? the maps are a combo of mappoint and stumbverter, right?

03-18-2002	#30 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	you were right that downloading macromedia flash was the key to being able to view the maps...