info security stands show netstumbler - exhibitor lied

unclex · 04-27-2002

I thought it was quite funny to see it on a stand at infosec last week.

One exhibitor lied to me.

"We write our own tool – er we found quite a few in here"

Asked another on the same stand – he said they used Netstumbler

The Register made a statement that said

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/25000.html

found 15 AP P/P only

we found 49 using other stuff. It only shows how crap wireless security was at this show – so called security experts….

carbolic · 04-27-2002

We did a 1-day show a week ago and didn't use any security. Why?

Cuz the only data we were sending was data we *wanted* people to see.

Our next show will be more of the same. If somebody wants to discover our AP with Net/Mini-stumbler with the company name, phone number, and where we are at the show, great!

We plan on sending something a little more interesting than a website and ping traffic next time. But still don't care if people snoop.

On the other hand. Back at HQ, a ReefEdge using IPSec is safe enough.

:)

unclex · 04-27-2002

If you had been there - you would understand what I mean - I am talking about three different companies.

This was in the UK in London

unclex · 05-03-2002

Here is one dump I got via e-mail today.

15 my do dar

Get real guys

49 in the hall

UKstumbler · 05-07-2002

I was there as well and logged up to 29 wireless stations using sniffer pro 4.7 (wireless). Cannot believe that they are still selling the idea of wireless without informing clients the simplest of dangers.

PS Did I meet anyone? Was in the corner trying to hack a wireless demo whom were full of shit!

unclex · 05-07-2002

went there on the first day and did not meet a sole except aload of so called wireless experts.

04-27-2002	#1 (permalink)
unclex ER - working on Oil Drums Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: MARS Posts: 127	info security stands show netstumbler - exhibitor lied I thought it was quite funny to see it on a stand at infosec last week. One exhibitor lied to me. "We write our own tool – er we found quite a few in here" Asked another on the same stand – he said they used Netstumbler The Register made a statement that said http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/25000.html found 15 AP P/P only we found 49 using other stuff. It only shows how crap wireless security was at this show – so called security experts…. __________________ Have Fun. http://www.ackers.org.uk http://forums.netstumbler.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=14030#post14030

04-27-2002	#2 (permalink)
carbolic Move Zig Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 107	In their defense... We did a 1-day show a week ago and didn't use any security. Why? Cuz the only data we were sending was data we wanted people to see. Our next show will be more of the same. If somebody wants to discover our AP with Net/Mini-stumbler with the company name, phone number, and where we are at the show, great! We plan on sending something a little more interesting than a website and ping traffic next time. But still don't care if people snoop. On the other hand. Back at HQ, a ReefEdge using IPSec is safe enough. :) __________________ www.SoCalWUG.org

04-27-2002	#3 (permalink)
unclex ER - working on Oil Drums Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: MARS Posts: 127	If you had been there - you would understand what I mean - I am talking about three different companies. This was in the UK in London __________________ Have Fun. http://www.ackers.org.uk http://forums.netstumbler.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=14030#post14030

05-07-2002	#6 (permalink)
unclex ER - working on Oil Drums Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: MARS Posts: 127	went there on the first day and did not meet a sole except aload of so called wireless experts. __________________ Have Fun. http://www.ackers.org.uk http://forums.netstumbler.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=14030#post14030

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05-07-2002	#5 (permalink)
UKstumbler Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London Posts: 14	I was there as well and logged up to 29 wireless stations using sniffer pro 4.7 (wireless). Cannot believe that they are still selling the idea of wireless without informing clients the simplest of dangers. PS Did I meet anyone? Was in the corner trying to hack a wireless demo whom were full of shit!