Wardriving covered in the Detroit News

Amongo · 05-08-2002

Check it out...

http://www.detroitnews.com/2002/tech...b01-483921.htm

--Adam
adam@amongo.com
http://www.amongo.com

g0tr00t · 05-08-2002

I love that picture on the bottom.

"Gee honey there is this van in front of the house pointing a pringles can at us and blocking our driveway. But I am sure it's nothing. I wonder why my cable modem is flashing those lights even when I am not using my pc."

Haa haa haa haa, I just love those drawings.

"It's known as "war driving" -- which borrows its name from "War Games," the 1980s movie about computer hackers. "

So that's where war driving came from...

Amongo · 05-08-2002

I told that guy that War DRIVING actually came from War DIALING, but I guess he just didn't listen.

blackwave · 05-08-2002

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It's known as "war driving" -- which borrows its name from "War Games," the 1980s movie about computer hackers.

Whatever... Suprised they didn't drop in the name Kevin Mitnick...

They should have shown the Head Stumbler...

Amongo · 05-08-2002

Mr. Dein has no interest in being the "spokesperson" for stumbling.

blackwave · 05-08-2002

Come on Amongo, we know Dein has all the ladies in his pocket now...

Amongo · 05-08-2002

In case you didn't put it together, I am Adam Dein.

blackwave · 05-08-2002

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I told that guy that War DRIVING actually came from War DIALING, but I guess he just didn't listen

Oh <uncomfortable silence here>... Um... well.. I thought when you said that you told that guy, we, um I, thought that you mean you told Dein that... Not Charles E. Ramirez....

Anyway, who's your tailor ? <smile>

PS. we know IRL you stumble in the nude.
PSS. I really hope you were misquoted here too

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For his part, Dein says he isn't a hacker. It goes against his upbringing.

carbolic · 05-08-2002

The term is actually descended from War Games, so his usage is correct.

It goes like this:
War Games, released 1983 >
War Dialing, coined about 1 day after the movie was released >
War Driving, coined sometime after 2000, unclear exactly when.

For those of you who were newbies in 1983:
http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.a...ling_etymology

And a quick quote from that usenet post regarding "War Dialer":
More common terms are (or were) demon dialer and auto-redial, both of which first appeared in November 1982, according to Google. Of course the technique is far older than that.

Thorn · 05-08-2002

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Originally posted by carbolic
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War Driving, coined sometime after 2000, unclear exactly when.

The term was coined around April 2001, by Peter "Evil Pete" Shipley of the San Franscisco CA area. He's the guy that started the whole thing, in an attempt to alert people of the security problems with wireless. In several articles, he directly attributes "War Driving" as being derived from "War Dialing."

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Originally posted by carbolic
... demon dialer and auto-redial, both of which first appeared in November 1982, according to Google. Of course the technique is far older than that.

Hell yes, some of us old timers had demon dialers back in the Seventies.

Amongo, good story. Did you approach the paper, or did they find you?

Amongo · 05-08-2002

Thorn,

Charlie Ramirez just emailed me out of the blue one day and said that he was dying to do a story on wireless networks and whatnot. So, I said that as long as they were not out to make me look like some sort of bad guy, no problem.

So one day a reporter and a photograph showed up at my house. We talked a bit and then I tooked them for a short drive.

That was actually several weeks ago. I took them long enough to publish it.

--Adam
adam@amongo.com
http://www.amongo.com

blackwave · 05-08-2002

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For his part, Dein says he isn't a hacker. It goes against his upbringing.

And you said this because... ?

Amongo · 05-08-2002

Actually, I never said that.

I did say that I do not connect to/hack other people's networks due the fact of multiple felonies being involved, thus resulting in harsh jail time that I did not wish to experience.

I don't know where the hell he got upbringing.

blackwave · 05-08-2002

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I don't know where the hell he got upbringing.

Ok now I can breathe again. Not that anyone cares.

I dislike the malicious media and its cancerous spread of disinformation. I avoid them like the plague, and usually say "no comment." I am a fine people person but I can't talk to someone who wants to create "the hacker" to be some evil geek that is out for the world.

Little is the realization that if it were not for hackers, technology wouldn't be as far as it is now.

Dr3D1zzl3 · 05-09-2002

DONT HATE THE MEDIA BECOME THE MEDIA!

who ever can name the person who said this wins a cookie.

05-08-2002	#1 (permalink)
Amongo Recreational Stumbler Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Detroit Area, MI Posts: 27	Wardriving covered in the Detroit News Check it out... http://www.detroitnews.com/2002/tech...b01-483921.htm --Adam adam@amongo.com http://www.amongo.com

05-08-2002	#2 (permalink)
g0tr00t Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: May 2002 Location: r00ting y0ur b0x. Posts: 352	Haa haa ha!! I love that picture on the bottom. "Gee honey there is this van in front of the house pointing a pringles can at us and blocking our driveway. But I am sure it's nothing. I wonder why my cable modem is flashing those lights even when I am not using my pc." Haa haa haa haa, I just love those drawings. "It's known as "war driving" -- which borrows its name from "War Games," the 1980s movie about computer hackers. " So that's where war driving came from...

05-08-2002	#7 (permalink)
Amongo Recreational Stumbler Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Detroit Area, MI Posts: 27	In case you didn't put it together, I am Adam Dein. Last edited by Amongo : 05-08-2002 at 03:22 PM.

05-08-2002	#9 (permalink)
carbolic Move Zig Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 107	WD Etymology The term is actually descended from War Games, so his usage is correct. It goes like this: War Games, released 1983 > War Dialing, coined about 1 day after the movie was released > War Driving, coined sometime after 2000, unclear exactly when. For those of you who were newbies in 1983: http://neil.franklin.ch/Usenet/alt.a...ling_etymology And a quick quote from that usenet post regarding "War Dialer": More common terms are (or were) demon dialer and auto-redial, both of which first appeared in November 1982, according to Google. Of course the technique is far older than that. __________________ www.SoCalWUG.org

05-08-2002	#11 (permalink)
Amongo Recreational Stumbler Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Detroit Area, MI Posts: 27	They approached me... Thorn, Charlie Ramirez just emailed me out of the blue one day and said that he was dying to do a story on wireless networks and whatnot. So, I said that as long as they were not out to make me look like some sort of bad guy, no problem. So one day a reporter and a photograph showed up at my house. We talked a bit and then I tooked them for a short drive. That was actually several weeks ago. I took them long enough to publish it. --Adam adam@amongo.com http://www.amongo.com

05-08-2002	#3 (permalink)
Amongo Recreational Stumbler Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Detroit Area, MI Posts: 27	I told that guy that War DRIVING actually came from War DIALING, but I guess he just didn't listen.

05-08-2002	#5 (permalink)
Amongo Recreational Stumbler Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Detroit Area, MI Posts: 27	Mr. Dein has no interest in being the "spokesperson" for stumbling.

05-08-2002	#13 (permalink)
Amongo Recreational Stumbler Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Detroit Area, MI Posts: 27	Actually, I never said that. I did say that I do not connect to/hack other people's networks due the fact of multiple felonies being involved, thus resulting in harsh jail time that I did not wish to experience. I don't know where the hell he got upbringing.

05-09-2002	#15 (permalink)
Dr3D1zzl3 Mental Penis Fencer Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 371	DONT HATE THE MEDIA BECOME THE MEDIA! who ever can name the person who said this wins a cookie.

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