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07-29-2002
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Do I look like I'm joking
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Re: Wi Fi Honeypots a New Hacker Trap
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07-29-2002
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I'm special
Join Date: May 2002
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at first this news pissed me off. then I realized that this really won't work very well. after all, it's said in the article that it's purpose is not to set up hackers for prosecution. while this sounds warm and fuzzy, I believe that there is a level of threat to those who get on the network.
One bit of information that will be gathered is the MAC address. We know that this info really doesn't tell them much as most have changed their MAC address to something like "02-0c-de-ad-be-ef" The other thing that might be gathered is arbitrary names such as NetBIOS names. Pretty vague. Yet another thing that will be a problem is the fact that they don't have internet access right now. There aren't too many wardrivers that will sit on an access point without internet access for too long before moving on to a more prosperous AP. The other thing is that they mention "Determining Intent" as a challenge. This seems quite a large challenge. The other thing is finding you if you are on their network. In the article it says that this guy has "two omni directional high-gain antennas for added reach to the nearby streets and alleys." If the wardriver has some sort of antenna of his own, this increases the distance between him and the AP which then makes it harder to find the wardriver. I'm interested as to what the results are of this experiment though. |
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07-30-2002
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Do I look like I'm joking
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07-30-2002
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Re: Wi Fi Honeypots a New Hacker Trap
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I've been doing a huge amount of research in regards to stumbling and I will reiterate a statement that I made in an earlier post. It all boils down to a couple of things: 1) Connection to the WLAN 2) Intent If you look at federal guidlines, it's safe to say that the act of "stumbling" really isn't illegal - IF you follow the law to the letter. However, it could easily be intrepreted as unethical/immoral. But it all boils down to what you do with the information afterwards. If you attempt to connect to the WLAN, that's probably illegal. If you run ethereal, in an attempt to "discover" what is there, that's probably illegal. If you run a network mapping utility, that's probably illegal If you surf the net, while using their bandwidth, yeah, you guessed it, it's most probably illegal. Where you really get into trouble is when you capture data with the intent of either extorting the individual/company you obtained it from OR you use that data for your own financial gain, by selling it to someone else... THAT'S definately illegal. Don't get me wrong, I'm not on my soapbox... yet, but, it's probably best to just limit your activities to stumbling and nothing more. And if you're running XP, turn off the "auto connect" feature and DHCP acquisition otherwise, you're looking for trouble. Because, with all the honeypots that are out there it sounds like someone is just itching to make an example of someone who is either tremendously stupid or simply careless... bws |
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07-30-2002
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07-30-2002
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07-31-2002
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Fox and Hound for Wireless
You could set up a access point in a car and have a good old Fox and Hound hunt. You meet at a location, the fox runs and hides and then the hounds have to find them....
We used to have these once and a while in the HAM clubs with the Amatuer Radio Bunch... Don't forget to bring a directional antenna for searching, all thought signal strength with a omni works also..... Conan |
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07-31-2002
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Did you do the math?
Join Date: Apr 2002
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conan, search for "fox hunt", "war rally" and "rallying" Some of us have talked about doing those things. I don't know if anyone has done it yet, but I think we may hear some tales from DCX.
Hmmm... That would be an excellent thread for next week, if we could get some of the participants to post: "Tales of DCX"
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08-27-2002
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Virginia
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Check out NodeRunner
I think everyone needs to go check out http://www.noderunner.com/ and see the latest wardriving game. This would be awesome in any community. I work in DC and live in VA. Any takers?
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08-27-2002
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Do I look like I'm joking
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Re: Check out NodeRunner
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NetStumbler.com Forums > NetStumbler Forums > Windows Version > NSSpyglass - NetStumbler Detection Software http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...&threadid=3531
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