Scruge

Yep it does

Knsgem parses both of these fields into the master data base from gps file.
bssid="00:11:95:4C:3F:73" source="00:11:95:4C:3F:73"

The area of concern is when its producing the output kml files for GE, which is the same time its producing the Wigle CSV files. I have several filters that keep "0" lat/long or bogus gps data from being written to KML. I just want to make sure the filter isn't interfering with the Wigle CSV output.

Is supposed to write all nets detected to CSV and only nets with good gps data to kml.

SignalSeeker

If you do that and post it up somewhere, I will mail you a cookie. That will get my butt in gear to get my serial port put in on my WRT.

Justin

Mark57

I can't say it strong enough. Use the older version Dutch posted in post 1602 to "start" with. It's the only version that worked correctly with all my GPS's including my new BU-353 SiRF III, yes 3. All newer versions on my box were CRAP. I wasted a couple of months screwing with it. You can always upgrade later if you want to break it.

Mark57

You must have missed the post and my email that I'm on vacation out on the road? (yes, right now)
It'll have to wait until I return home. But I do want to check it out. I just don't implement changes while traveling.

Dutch

Must.... resist... Awww crap : I told you so...

/soapbox on
I must admit, that although I know ESR did a lot of stuff for the GNU/Open Source community, I tend to feel that he somehow lost focus when he took over the steerage of the GPSD development.
*nix has allways prised it self, on being made up of a lot of small utils that could be combined in a lot of ways to accomplish what ever tasks you wanted to accomplish. I.E. one util to parse text, another util to format it, and a third util to output it. If one wanted to do all three things in one go, one just piped the output from one into the input of the next.

If we take that philosophy and apply it to a gps deamon, what should it do ?
It should take the input from the gps, and make it available to whatever program that requests that info. We had that in the old series of GPSD's (See http://gpsd.berlios.de/history.html for an overview of what happened during GPSD's lifespan sofar), albeit with a thick crust of dust on the code.
But it did what it was supposed to do, according to the old *nix philosophy : It parsed NMEA input from a GPS, and made it readily available for whatever program that requested the data.

Whatever happened to the K.I.S.S philosophy ?
It's great that ESR decided to refactor and clean up the code, but since he took over the project steerage, there have been more versions of GPSD released than in the 9 years of its lifespan before. Each version adding more features, and IMHO becoming more bloated and in several cases more unstable. It has also become more demanding in ressources such as memory and cpu cycles.

100 % of all consumer GPS's that output data which can be accessed by the user, can output that data as NMEA. Admittedly NMEA as a protocol is a clusterfuck, but it IS a standard, and a standard that almost any GPS aware application understands.
Now tell me the reason why GPSD should change a GPS into its native language (Sirf, Garmin Binary, etc) and then translate that into NMEA if the application that requests data from GPSD asks for NMEA formatted data ? Yes, I know some older GPS's only output NMEA location data every 2 seconds, while the native binary can do it every second. If you need the 1 hz update, get a GPS that supports it. Don't force everybody else to have to spend cpucycles in converting from native binary to NMEA, when their GPS's allready supply NMEA data every second.

Ahh, its for making GPSD more userfriendly.. It autodetects the chipset and baud speed and such, then uses the right protocol, you say ?
Well, I've had the first 5 people ask me why their Sirf based GPS's suddenly didn't work with their windows programs, after they had used it with a newer GPSD under *nix...
Yeah, they might have forgotten to read the documentation, but if GPSD changes the state of a device to speak another protocol, it should damn well change the state back to the previous protocol, when exiting. That would be userfriendly, instead of letting the average user try to figure out that his GPS should be reset to NMEA and how to do so, in order for it to work with his other programs and OS's.

It's also fine that there are many new features such as ability to function as a timesource for NTP servers, ability to communicate over DBUS, and a lib based approach for new programs, to directly communicate with GPSD..
But its taken GPSD further and further away from the original *nix philosophy.

That, and the fact that every new release seem to have introduced new bugs in the BASIC functionality of GPSD, keeps me away from the newer series of GPSD.
Thats my prerogative, just as it is ESR's prerogative to keep on making GPSD an allsinging, alldancing, bloated GPSD/NTP timepiece/toastmaking and coffeebrewing machine/kitchensink.

I'll stick with the NMEA only, low ressource demanding, old GPSD that just plain works.

/soapbox off

Dutch

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Scruge

No rush, just interested in your findings when you get a chance.

wrzwaldo

I have not noticed anything unusual with the WiGLE CSV output. Damn nice work! I parsed a couple of large series then converted the CSVs to NS1s and the numbers matched both ways.

Mark57

Yes, you did. I listened. Sad part is it wasn't because I didn't try. I just didn't do it right because my Nix-foo was weak. I tried your suggestion first thing but there were newer GPSD version remnants in the way and I was too stupid to see it. I fixed that when I rebuilt the box. Ohhhh man was I happy to get a GPS lock and hold it for a 18 hour cross country drive and in the canyons of 60 story buildings downtown and under bridges and while driving under trees and birds and through butterfly farts.

I was frustrated big time. It was a great learning experiance though. The day I stop learning is the day I hang it up.

/long, low bow
Thank you again
/oww, my aching back. I'm too old for this bowing crap

Mark57

You'll be the first to know when I do.

PS, today's new location is pretty good but it does not compare to yesterday's spot. I've got to get back there sometime. This coming Wednesday/Thursday's location should yield 20,000 a day easy.

Dutch

10 days into the month of April, and the forecasts say we'll break another record. Almost 200K networks for a month is in reach.
But whats really impressive is the Wigle overall uploads stats for this month :
1.... mark571.... 21,384
2.... Chuckster.. 20,623
3.... wrzwaldo... 11,859
4.... Dutch.......... 4,484
5.... TTmaniac..... 2,946
6.... ari............... 2,531
7.... charun......... 2,219
8.... lokey240....... 2,204
9.... Petzl............ 1,835
10... barry99705. 1,729

Fully 50 % of the months top 10 are members of the NS forums Wigle group, with the top 3 slots being occupied with a vengeance by two oldtimers and a newcomer. It also looks like we might have a grudgematch for top uploader for April 2006 on the hands between newcomer Chuckster in the Tampa bay area, and mark571 in an sofar secret AP goldmine area.
It seems like an interesting month is out ahead of us...

Dutch

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beakmyn

www.frontiernet.net/~beakmyn/GPSD

GPSD 2.10 - no autobaud problem?
I tarred all the files created, if someone would be so kind to package the required files and test it out for me on a WRT I'd appreciate it.

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I just took a trip to Anchorage. Wardrove the whole trip. Freaking cabins out in the middle of nowhere have wireless! I'm back to my 100 here 200 there uploads again...

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beakmyn

1 more week Beakmyn. You have to wait 1 more week. Bide your time.

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I won't have any Iraqi APs until May or June.

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Warflying?