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Scruge · 07-26-2005

You guys surely don't thinks there's any sand baggers around here do ya??

fregniacciaro · 07-26-2005

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Hehehehehehehe.

Good job! I just posted another couple hundred and saw that it was already over.

ccie4526 · 07-27-2005

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Originally Posted by Scruge

You guys surely don't thinks there's any sand baggers around here do ya??

No sandbagging here.... the APs I uploaded yesterday are ones I found yesterday... trolling around north of the DFW airport.

Tomorrow, I drive from Dallas to Colorado Springs... and I will have Kismet running for the entire trip.

Scruge · 07-27-2005

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Originally Posted by ccie4526

Tomorrow, I drive from Dallas to Colorado Springs... and I will have Kismet running for the entire trip.

Hope you aren't taking that boring ass route thru Kansas.
If so, make sure to turn up the volume. You'll need something to keep you awake.

Have a safe trip.

Mark57 · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by ccie4526

No sandbagging here.... the APs I uploaded yesterday are ones I found yesterday... trolling around north of the DFW airport.

Tomorrow, I drive from Dallas to Colorado Springs... and I will have Kismet running for the entire trip.

Have fun. I already know someone that has I-35 and I-40, plus the panhandle routes covered, plus the route north of Amarillo.

(just kidding) If you go through Salina have at it. I don't do Kansas to CO anymore. It's like watching grass grow except there is none, or trees, or scenery. Besides, if you time it right, you can stop in Amarillo and have a nice 72oz steak. Those folks are nuts, but the regular steaks are great.

I've been uploading my AP's daily as well. I'm not alone in some of the areas I've been stumbling so I make sure mine get uploaded first.

theprez98 · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by Mark57

Have fun. I already know someone that has I-35 and I-40, plus the panhandle routes covered, plus the route north of Amarillo.

If you go through Salina have at it. I don't do Kansas to CO anymore. It's like watching grass grow except there is none, or trees, or scenery. Besides, if you time it right, you can stop in Amarillo and have a nice 72oz steak. Those folks are nuts, but the regular steaks are great.

I've been uploading my AP's daily as well. I'm not alone in some of the areas I've been stumbling so I make sure mine get uploaded first.

It's always worth stumbling areas even if they've been stumbled before. On my trip across country, I found 3,000 new APs along major highways that had mostly already been stumbled. In particular, I found several hundred new in major metropolitan areas like Chicago.

Mark57 · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by theprez98

It's always worth stumbling areas even if they've been stumbled before. On my trip across country, I found 3,000 new APs along major highways that had mostly already been stumbled. In particular, I found several hundred new in major metropolitan areas like Chicago.

Absolutely. I was just kidding but it didn't come across well. Sorry. I drive the same route to work every day. It's about 30 miles of 4 to 6 lane highway through town. I pick up 1 or 2 new AP's along that route every week or so. I've done some areas multiple times and have noticed business park areas seem to be better during the day and pure residential will provide more in the evenings and weekends but there's not always a pattern. I'll still get new AP's in areas I've driven many times. Part of the allure for me is how amazing the spread of WiFi is growing.

fregniacciaro · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by Mark57

I drive the same route to work every day. It's about 30 miles of 4 to 6 lane highway through town. I pick up 1 or 2 new AP's along that route every week or so. I've done some areas multiple times and have noticed business park areas seem to be better during the day and pure residential will provide more in the evenings and weekends but there's not always a pattern. I'll still get new AP's in areas I've driven many times. Part of the allure for me is how amazing the spread of WiFi is growing.

I'm on the same page. A lot of the stuff I've posted this week has been on the main often-stumbled streets. Just about every week I hit the same clients - sometimes I just find some new routes or take a slight detour. I have better luck in the newer residential areas and new office complexes. There's a lot of gated communities out here - if I can get in, I usually pick up quite a few new ones.

Then again I can be driving out in the country - nothing but dirt roads, rebel flags, and toothless dogs (both 2 and 4 legged kind) and I'll pick up a couple of AP's.

theprez98 · 07-28-2005

A couple areas I've found to be very wifi-rich are the large apartment complex areas. If they have wifi for their residents, there are tons of APs everywhere.

Dutch · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by theprez98

A couple areas I've found to be very wifi-rich are the large apartment complex areas. If they have wifi for their residents, there are tons of APs everywhere.

I don't know if the trend is the same stateside, but here the best bet for a hi-count stumble is the apartment residential areas, and not the villa areas.
My guess on that, is that people using PC's in apartments use wifi to avoid cabling in the normally rented apartements, and people with villas normally have enough rooms to have one allocated as a "home office" so they don't use wifi, unless they use laptops and want the freedom of using it anywhere in the house.

Dutch

streaker69 · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by Dutch

I don't know if the trend is the same stateside, but here the best bet for a hi-count stumble is the apartment residential areas, and not the villa areas.
My guess on that, is that people using PC's in apartments use wifi to avoid cabling in the normally rented apartements, and people with villas normally have enough rooms to have one allocated as a "home office" so they don't use wifi, unless they use laptops and want the freedom of using it anywhere in the house.

Dutch

The most target rich environment that I ever found was large universities. We hit the UoD main resident area and got over 1000 in about 20 minutes.

theprez98 · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by streaker69

The most target rich environment that I ever found was large universities. We hit the UoD main resident area and got over 1000 in about 20 minutes.

Yes of course the campus here is target-rich. Unfortunately there are a lot of networks that get lost in the large buildings and aren't easy stumbled from the streets, and the central part of campus is closed to cars. It could be accessed by walking, but obviously no GPS inside.

Mark57 · 07-28-2005

We're all of the same mind and technique. In a new area I shoot for new housing editions that are finished, then apartment complexes, schools/universities and university housing, and all office parks and strip mall areas. After all that's been logged, its down to driving the residential neighborhoods. That's what I've been doing all this month. I'm getting about 600 new AP's per 30 miles of residential housing. It takes time but it works.

Specifically, I use Delorme Street Atlas USA 2006 (beta) combined with Wiggle data. I download the plots with Digle for that county. I then create a text file of the coordinates that I can import into Delorme and they show up as a blue pin on the map. Then I drive the areas and record a GPS log file. I can load all those GPS log file bread crumb trails onto the map so I don't duplicate areas on subsequent drives. With one glance I can see where I've been and if any AP's were discovered where I'm going next. More times than not, I find many more than were previously discovered. If anyone is interested, I'll start a thread and post pics.

ccie4526 · 07-28-2005

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Originally Posted by Mark57

Have fun. I already know someone that has I-35 and I-40, plus the panhandle routes covered, plus the route north of Amarillo.

Yah, I saw where someone else had started sniffing around after I went through the area a couple years ago.

Picked up 855 new ones out of 1500 total found.... not bad percentage.

jrcsnet · 07-29-2005

I do a similar thing as Mark57, however I now use Google Earth combined with Wigle data. I can surprisingly load all 20,000+ AP's that are in this area up into GE then its just a matter of determining what neighborhoods haven't been hit. I have a pretty good memory for maps, plus it seems that the few of us who have gotten the majority of the detected ones in the area (myself, renderman and airstreamer all have logged some here at one point or another) have mostly stuck to the main routes so I've tended to just start at one end and drive until I either get lost, or decide to move on to another area. In terms of area's I tend to aim for, around any of the Post-Secondary instituitions is my main goal, especially once classes are back in session. I've got a good chunk of the area surrounding the University of Calgary done, along with most of the west side of the city now. The east side of the city is going to be my aim during August, as very little of it has been stumbled so far, mainly just the main arteries such as Deerfoot Trail which appears to have been hit a lot.

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07-26-2005	#346 (permalink)
Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,384	You guys surely don't thinks there's any sand baggers around here do ya??

07-28-2005	#358 (permalink)
Mark57 What?? Join Date: May 2005 Location: OKC Posts: 1,240	We're all of the same mind and technique. In a new area I shoot for new housing editions that are finished, then apartment complexes, schools/universities and university housing, and all office parks and strip mall areas. After all that's been logged, its down to driving the residential neighborhoods. That's what I've been doing all this month. I'm getting about 600 new AP's per 30 miles of residential housing. It takes time but it works. Specifically, I use Delorme Street Atlas USA 2006 (beta) combined with Wiggle data. I download the plots with Digle for that county. I then create a text file of the coordinates that I can import into Delorme and they show up as a blue pin on the map. Then I drive the areas and record a GPS log file. I can load all those GPS log file bread crumb trails onto the map so I don't duplicate areas on subsequent drives. With one glance I can see where I've been and if any AP's were discovered where I'm going next. More times than not, I find many more than were previously discovered. If anyone is interested, I'll start a thread and post pics.

07-29-2005	#360 (permalink)
jrcsnet Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 76	I do a similar thing as Mark57, however I now use Google Earth combined with Wigle data. I can surprisingly load all 20,000+ AP's that are in this area up into GE then its just a matter of determining what neighborhoods haven't been hit. I have a pretty good memory for maps, plus it seems that the few of us who have gotten the majority of the detected ones in the area (myself, renderman and airstreamer all have logged some here at one point or another) have mostly stuck to the main routes so I've tended to just start at one end and drive until I either get lost, or decide to move on to another area. In terms of area's I tend to aim for, around any of the Post-Secondary instituitions is my main goal, especially once classes are back in session. I've got a good chunk of the area surrounding the University of Calgary done, along with most of the west side of the city now. The east side of the city is going to be my aim during August, as very little of it has been stumbled so far, mainly just the main arteries such as Deerfoot Trail which appears to have been hit a lot.