Wireless Honeypots

g0tr00t · 07-23-2002

Here they come! Watch it....

http://www.incident-response.org/WISE.htm

blackwave · 07-23-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by g0tr00t
Here they come! Watch it....

http://www.incident-response.org/WISE.htm

Thanks for the link g0tr00t, gotta love it!

sparafina · 07-23-2002

The only folks that lack more imagination than SAIC is Lockheed Martin. Just another attempt to cash in on the infosec gold rush.

g0tr00t · 07-23-2002

Well the thing that bugs me is this. Aside from connecting via wireless, the exploits are going to be the same as connected via a wire.

Correct?

I am thinking of the difference in Pen testing a wireless network compared to being wired. Aside from testing encryption, broadcast, etc. Once your in and have an IP your in. So penetrate away.

Mojo-_-Jojo · 07-23-2002

Re: Wireless Honeypots

So in the context of the original message at http://www.incident-response.org/WISE.htm

honeypot=sniffer=nothing new.

As opposed to honeypot=tarpit=still nothing new.

Seems to me that placing the WAP in front of an authentication firewall server would go a long way toward letting authenticated clients in and keeping unauthenticated clients out.

Wep the Wap (oh, Wep me baby! wep it good...) at the hardware level, add an encrypted tunnel at the software level and it seems to me that you've layered yourself a reasonably secure solution without needing to worry if your AP is being hijacked or not.

(or am I oversimplifying?)

Cheers,

Mo

blackwave · 07-23-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Mojo-_-Jojo
(or am I oversimplifying?)

That's ok, most places still don't shred their trash... that is where all the gold is... (not that I would know anything about that.)

Ancient WiFi Proverb: there is more than one way to shave a kitty...
- Church of WiFi (Blackwave)

Thorn · 07-23-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by blackwave

That's ok, most places still don't shred their trash... that is where all the gold is... (not that I would know anything about that.)

Ancient WiFi Proverb: there is more than one way to shave a kitty...
- Church of WiFi (Blackwave)

Huh, how about that... The Reformed Temple of the WiFi Druid Scientist has a similar saying:
"There is more than one protocol to remove the epidermal layers from a feline."

blackwave · 07-23-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Thorn
The Reformed Temple of the WiFi Druid Scientist has a similar saying:
"There is more than one protocol to remove the epidermal layers from a feline."

Ah...

very cool, though I wasn't referring to a feline... more of a cameltoe. Had to tone it down for the kiddies out there...

Thorn · 07-23-2002

We also have a one about weather:

"The ambient temperature is lower than that which is typical of the mammary glands of the female practitioner of the black arts."

Although the last time that one of the High Priests said that he got picketed by the Wiccas for a week.

fordem · 07-23-2002

I guess that means Tír na nÓg must be somewhere in the southern hemisphere - because here, up above the equator it's kinda warm, really warm - if you know what I mean.

blackwave · 07-23-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Thorn
Although the last time that one of the High Priests said that he got picketed by the Wiccas for a week.

Oh those damned Wiccans, with their "Blessed-Be's", and their White Light...

Back when I wasn't as tall (though now I am twice as fat), a little redheaded Mormon used to tell me this...

"The angle of the dangle, is perpendicular to the heat of the meat."

... and might I say, her honeypot was quite lovely...

Thorn · 07-23-2002

Tír na nÓg is a little piece of my Irish background. It's a kind of a heaven. A Valhala of sorts, only not as crowded, and none of those pushy Norse gods. The translation is "Land of the Forever Young."

Physically, I stuck in Vermont. Which tends to be about one of the coldest in the lower 48. It is damned cold at times, and we do have Wiccas and other bizarre groups here. Years ago I did date one Wicca. As I recall, no part of her anatomy was cold. Or hot for that matter. I just remember warm, firm and ah, well, best not go into all that here.

I thought you were south of the equator?

Sh00t3r · 07-23-2002

Originally posted by Thorn
The Reformed Temple of the WiFi Druid Scientist has a similar saying:
"There is more than one protocol to remove the epidermal layers from a feline."

Druid?? Thorn, your not talking about the scientists from the planet DRUIDIA?? Are you? LOL. Sorry my fav movie is spaceballs. hehehe

By the way I think that site is developed by the same idiots who developed a site that would guarantee your ideal wife for a mere $25,000 dollars. God i wish i had the link.

rogerRabbit · 07-24-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Thorn
The translation is "Land of the Forever Young."

And there was me thinking it was the name of some Irish bar.

bwsaloum · 07-24-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by blackwave

Oh those damned Wiccans, with their "Blessed-Be's", and their White Light...

Back when I wasn't as tall (though now I am twice as fat), a little redheaded Mormon used to tell me this...

"The angle of the dangle, is perpendicular to the heat of the meat."

... and might I say, her honeypot was quite lovely...

Shouldn't that be angle of the dongle...? no, wait, this is a wireless forum

bws

07-23-2002	#1 (permalink)
g0tr00t Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: May 2002 Location: r00ting y0ur b0x. Posts: 352	Wireless Honeypots Here they come! Watch it.... http://www.incident-response.org/WISE.htm __________________ g0tr00t "Its all fun and games until someone gets killed."

07-23-2002	#4 (permalink)
g0tr00t Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: May 2002 Location: r00ting y0ur b0x. Posts: 352	Well the thing that bugs me is this. Aside from connecting via wireless, the exploits are going to be the same as connected via a wire. Correct? I am thinking of the difference in Pen testing a wireless network compared to being wired. Aside from testing encryption, broadcast, etc. Once your in and have an IP your in. So penetrate away. __________________ g0tr00t "Its all fun and games until someone gets killed."

07-23-2002	#5 (permalink)
Mojo-_-Jojo Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4	Re: Wireless Honeypots So in the context of the original message at http://www.incident-response.org/WISE.htm honeypot=sniffer=nothing new. As opposed to honeypot=tarpit=still nothing new. Seems to me that placing the WAP in front of an authentication firewall server would go a long way toward letting authenticated clients in and keeping unauthenticated clients out. Wep the Wap (oh, Wep me baby! wep it good...) at the hardware level, add an encrypted tunnel at the software level and it seems to me that you've layered yourself a reasonably secure solution without needing to worry if your AP is being hijacked or not. (or am I oversimplifying?) Cheers, Mo Last edited by Mojo-_-Jojo : 07-23-2002 at 06:11 PM.

07-23-2002	#9 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,096	We also have a one about weather: "The ambient temperature is lower than that which is typical of the mammary glands of the female practitioner of the black arts." Although the last time that one of the High Priests said that he got picketed by the Wiccas for a week. __________________ Thorn "I'm The Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I am from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation Kasterborous. I'm 903 years old and I am the man who is going to save your lives and all 6 billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?" Last edited by Thorn : 07-23-2002 at 07:42 PM.

07-23-2002	#12 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,096	Tír na nÓg is a little piece of my Irish background. It's a kind of a heaven. A Valhala of sorts, only not as crowded, and none of those pushy Norse gods. The translation is "Land of the Forever Young." Physically, I stuck in Vermont. Which tends to be about one of the coldest in the lower 48. It is damned cold at times, and we do have Wiccas and other bizarre groups here. Years ago I did date one Wicca. As I recall, no part of her anatomy was cold. Or hot for that matter. I just remember warm, firm and ah, well, best not go into all that here. I thought you were south of the equator? __________________ Thorn "I'm The Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I am from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation Kasterborous. I'm 903 years old and I am the man who is going to save your lives and all 6 billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?"

07-23-2002	#3 (permalink)
sparafina Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Julie Speed Posts: 1,430	The only folks that lack more imagination than SAIC is Lockheed Martin. Just another attempt to cash in on the infosec gold rush.

07-23-2002	#10 (permalink)
fordem Tropical Stumbler Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 575	I guess that means Tír na nÓg must be somewhere in the southern hemisphere - because here, up above the equator it's kinda warm, really warm - if you know what I mean.

07-23-2002	#13 (permalink)
Sh00t3r Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 199	Originally posted by Thorn The Reformed Temple of the WiFi Druid Scientist has a similar saying: "There is more than one protocol to remove the epidermal layers from a feline." Druid?? Thorn, your not talking about the scientists from the planet DRUIDIA?? Are you? LOL. Sorry my fav movie is spaceballs. hehehe By the way I think that site is developed by the same idiots who developed a site that would guarantee your ideal wife for a mere $25,000 dollars. God i wish i had the link.

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