FAQ - Page 4

blackwave · 09-23-2002

Question:Blackwave, what setup do you suggest?
Answer:

The following setup has proven to be the simplest, and most used...
1 wifi card
1 gps
1 laptop/pda/... windows machine

PDA
iPAQ 36xx/37xx/39xx
PC Card Expansion Pack Plus

WiFi Card:
ORiNOCO Silver/Gold
http://www.orinocowireless.com/templ...26&envelope=93
-or-
Dell TrueMobile 1150

GPS
Garmin eTrex Basic/Legend
... PC serial to gps converter
... PDA Setup
Belkin USB/Serial Y-Sync Cable for iPAQ H3800 Series
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=125677

RadioShack Male DB9-Male DB9 Gender Adapter
http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...%5Fid=26%2D231

RadioShack Null Modem Adapter
http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...%5Fid=26%2D264

Garmin Serial Connector
PC interface cable (RS232 serial port connector)
http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp...0%2D10206%2D00
-or-
PC interface cable with cigarette lighter
http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp...0%2D10268%2D00

...suggested:
Automotive Windshield Mounting Bracket
http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp...0%2D10361%2D00

Software
NetStumbler/MiniStumbler
http://www.netstumbler.com/

Microsoft MapPoint 2002
http://www.microsoft.com/office/mapp...tion/trial.asp

StumbVerter
http://www.sonar-security.com/
-or-
GPS Plus
http://www.engo.com/GPSPlus/

Drivers:
iPAQ
http://www.compaq.com/support/files/...rnet%20Devices

ORiNOCO
http://www.orinocowireless.com/templ...52&envelope=90

carbolic · 09-24-2002

Wow, this thread is getting long.

I just found that 2WIRE is using the Orinoco card, also. Thought I should mention that.

http://www.2wire.com/home/adap_fil.html#wireless

CannonFotter · 09-26-2002

There has been alot of posts on getting the Cisco Aironet cards to work with Netstumbler 0.3.0.30 . After answering several question on how to get it to work and several replys saying that it didn't I have managed to duplicate the issue.

I have 2 laptops both with Cisco cards Compaq 1650 (works) and an HP 5130 (which doesn't). I have tried both XP Home and XP pro, a clean install & and upgrade. It appears to be an issue the the PCMCIA drivers. The Compaq has th Texas Instruments pci-1131 cardbus controler where the HP has the Texas Instruments PCI-1420 cardbus controler.

The Compaq laptop will work with the XP default driver and the WildPackets driver. The HP will only work with the default xp driver.

I am looping for a better solution, and I'll keep you informed.

Thorn · 12-11-2002

Q: I want to map all the APs I've found. My mapping software is _________ . How do I make a map?

A: Match your map program to the appropriate converter:

1) Mapsource: MapSStumbler

2) MS MapPoint 2002: StumbVerter

2a) O'Neill's FileConverter

3) MS Streets and Trips:
StreetStumbler

4) DeLorme Topo USA: Email zoso71 at seasonalguest@hotmail.com or use StreetStumbler, and Set for comma deliminated.

Asked by many, answered by many more. Compiled by Thorn

netrambler · 03-04-2003

Question: What wireless card should I use with NetStumbler?

Answer: The Orinoco based wireless cards are very popular. The cards work with NetStumbler, work in both Windows and Linux, and most provide a port for an external antenna.

Cards that currently work with Netstumbler 0.3 include (from the NetStumbler website):

Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE (Agere ORiNOCO) Dell TrueMobile 1150 Series (PCMCIA and mini-PCI) Avaya Wireless PC Card Toshiba Wireless LAN Card (PCMCIA and built-in) Compaq WL110 Cabletron/Enterasys Roamabout Elsa Airlancer MC-11 ARtem ComCard 11Mbps IBM High Rate Wireless LAN PC Card 1stWave 1ST-PC-DSS11IS, DSS11IG, DSS11ES, DSS11EG

netrambler · 03-04-2003

Question: What operating systems work with Netstumbler?

Answer: (from the Netstumbler website) Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Windows XP.

PRoSPeRe · 05-26-2003

Q: Are there any French translations of the NetStumbler documentation?

A: You can find a French documentation of Netstumbler on the WikiWikiWeb of Nantes-Wireless :

http://www.nantes-wireless.org/pages...me=NetStumbler

HITMONEY · 06-30-2003

Q: Can you run NetStumbler and mapping software at the same time?

A: Yes, you can. You just need two GPS units configured on different ports.

wsup.im.chiLLiN · 07-16-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ZipperSeven
Q: What is the magical prismum card people keep refering to?

A: There is no prismum card. Nor is there a prisum, prizm, or prisim card. Prism refers to the chipset in a series of cards that are not supported by NetStumbler. These cards however, are supported by the ever popular Kismet software, which only runs on Linux variants.

Q: Is Prism support going to be built into the next version of NetStumbler?

A: Marius works for Avaya, which is a company that spun out of Lucent, the company that designed the original chipsets which are used in the Orinoco series cards which are by the way, supported by NetStumbler. In short, probably not.

AHAHAHAHAH... Oh man I'm so glad you're not my stock broker.

WOOOOO...

Q: It says on the NetStumbler site that my Linksys card is not supported! What gives?

A: If you have the latest version of NetStumbler and Windows XP, chances are your Linksys card (with the Prism chipset) will work. Make sure you are using the latest drivers either from Linksys or from Intersil, and that you are NOT running the Linksys configuration utility. Also, be sure to select the "NDIS 5.1" driver from the "Device" menu within Network Stumbler. If all else fails, buy an ORiNOCO Gold kit with the antenna for $150... isn't it about time you got an external antenna jack anyway?

sparafina · 08-10-2003

Q: How do I find out about the new version of Netstumbler?

A:

You can keep track of developments on Marius' personal web site

Subscribe to the Netstumbler listserv

Or see the listserv archive

Thorn · 04-27-2006

Q: I have a number of different APs with the same SSID. I want to connect to a particular AP via NetStumbler. Can I force connection to a desired AP via NetStumbler?

A: No.

First, you cannot connect to any AP via NetStumbler, as NetStumber is NOT A CONNECTION MANAGER, AND DOES NOT CONNECT TO ANYTHING.

Secondly, no connection manager software that is compliant with the 802.11 Standard will force a connection to a particular AP. To do so would break ROAMING, a integral part of the 802.11 Standard.

There is a simple way to do this and to conform to the standard: Give different WLANs different SSIDs.

09-23-2002	#46 (permalink)
blackwave Do I look like I'm joking Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: SoCal, OC Posts: 4,507	E-Z Setup Question:Blackwave, what setup do you suggest? Answer: The following setup has proven to be the simplest, and most used... 1 wifi card 1 gps 1 laptop/pda/... windows machine PDA iPAQ 36xx/37xx/39xx PC Card Expansion Pack Plus WiFi Card: ORiNOCO Silver/Gold http://www.orinocowireless.com/templ...26&envelope=93 -or- Dell TrueMobile 1150 GPS Garmin eTrex Basic/Legend ... PC serial to gps converter ... PDA Setup Belkin USB/Serial Y-Sync Cable for iPAQ H3800 Series http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=125677 RadioShack Male DB9-Male DB9 Gender Adapter http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...%5Fid=26%2D231 RadioShack Null Modem Adapter http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...%5Fid=26%2D264 Garmin Serial Connector PC interface cable (RS232 serial port connector) http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp...0%2D10206%2D00 -or- PC interface cable with cigarette lighter http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp...0%2D10268%2D00 ...suggested: Automotive Windshield Mounting Bracket http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp...0%2D10361%2D00 Software NetStumbler/MiniStumbler http://www.netstumbler.com/ Microsoft MapPoint 2002 http://www.microsoft.com/office/mapp...tion/trial.asp StumbVerter http://www.sonar-security.com/ -or- GPS Plus http://www.engo.com/GPSPlus/ Drivers: iPAQ http://www.compaq.com/support/files/...rnet%20Devices ORiNOCO http://www.orinocowireless.com/templ...52&envelope=90 __________________ -=BW=-

09-24-2002	#47 (permalink)
carbolic Move Zig Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 107	Long thread Wow, this thread is getting long. I just found that 2WIRE is using the Orinoco card, also. Thought I should mention that. http://www.2wire.com/home/adap_fil.html#wireless __________________ www.SoCalWUG.org

09-26-2002	#48 (permalink)
CannonFotter SmegHead Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 148	Cisco 340 / 350 There has been alot of posts on getting the Cisco Aironet cards to work with Netstumbler 0.3.0.30 . After answering several question on how to get it to work and several replys saying that it didn't I have managed to duplicate the issue. I have 2 laptops both with Cisco cards Compaq 1650 (works) and an HP 5130 (which doesn't). I have tried both XP Home and XP pro, a clean install & and upgrade. It appears to be an issue the the PCMCIA drivers. The Compaq has th Texas Instruments pci-1131 cardbus controler where the HP has the Texas Instruments PCI-1420 cardbus controler. The Compaq laptop will work with the XP default driver and the WildPackets driver. The HP will only work with the default xp driver. I am looping for a better solution, and I'll keep you informed. __________________ Can Smeg, Will Smeg!!!!!!!!! Last edited by Thorn : 04-20-2003 at 09:13 AM.

12-11-2002	#49 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,351	Map Converters Q: I want to map all the APs I've found. My mapping software is _________ . How do I make a map? A: Match your map program to the appropriate converter: 1) Mapsource: MapSStumbler 2) MS MapPoint 2002: StumbVerter 2a) O'Neill's FileConverter 3) MS Streets and Trips: StreetStumbler 4) DeLorme Topo USA: Email zoso71 at seasonalguest@hotmail.com or use StreetStumbler, and Set for comma deliminated. Asked by many, answered by many more. Compiled by Thorn __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary" Last edited by Thorn : 06-09-2003 at 06:08 PM.

03-04-2003	#50 (permalink)
netrambler stumbler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NW Chicago Posts: 95	What wireless card should I use with NetStumbler Question: What wireless card should I use with NetStumbler? Answer: The Orinoco based wireless cards are very popular. The cards work with NetStumbler, work in both Windows and Linux, and most provide a port for an external antenna. Cards that currently work with Netstumbler 0.3 include (from the NetStumbler website): Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE (Agere ORiNOCO) Dell TrueMobile 1150 Series (PCMCIA and mini-PCI) Avaya Wireless PC Card Toshiba Wireless LAN Card (PCMCIA and built-in) Compaq WL110 Cabletron/Enterasys Roamabout Elsa Airlancer MC-11 ARtem ComCard 11Mbps IBM High Rate Wireless LAN PC Card 1stWave 1ST-PC-DSS11IS, DSS11IG, DSS11ES, DSS11EG

03-04-2003	#51 (permalink)
netrambler stumbler Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NW Chicago Posts: 95	What OS's work with NetStumbler Question: What operating systems work with Netstumbler? Answer: (from the Netstumbler website) Windows 2000, Windows 9x, Windows XP.

05-26-2003	#52 (permalink)
PRoSPeRe Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2	French documentation Q: Are there any French translations of the NetStumbler documentation? A: You can find a French documentation of Netstumbler on the WikiWikiWeb of Nantes-Wireless : http://www.nantes-wireless.org/pages...me=NetStumbler Last edited by Thorn : 06-01-2003 at 09:00 PM.

06-30-2003	#53 (permalink)
HITMONEY Who Wants Butter??? Join Date: May 2003 Location: St. Pete Beach, FL. Posts: 529	Q: Can you run NetStumbler and mapping software at the same time? A: Yes, you can. You just need two GPS units configured on different ports. Last edited by Thorn : 07-01-2003 at 06:41 AM.

08-10-2003	#55 (permalink)
sparafina Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: TX,MD,NY Posts: 1,430	Q: How do I find out about the new version of Netstumbler? A: You can keep track of developments on Marius' personal web site Subscribe to the Netstumbler listserv Or see the listserv archive

04-27-2006	#56 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,351	Q: I have a number of different APs with the same SSID. I want to connect to a particular AP via NetStumbler. Can I force connection to a desired AP via NetStumbler? A: No. *First, you cannot connect to any AP via NetStumbler, as NetStumber is NOT A CONNECTION MANAGER, AND DOES NOT CONNECT TO ANYTHING.* Secondly, no connection manager software that is compliant with the 802.11 Standard will force a connection to a particular AP. To do so would break ROAMING, a integral part of the 802.11 Standard. There is a simple way to do this and to conform to the standard: Give different WLANs different SSIDs. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary" Last edited by Thorn : 04-27-2006 at 09:07 AM.

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