Interesting: Airopeek NX Orinoco Drivers and Netstumbler

mediamatz · 09-10-2002

Hi @ all,

now that i'm proud owner of Airopeek NX

i noticed something strange: First, Netstumbler began to do some strange things, e.g showing me AP's up without SSID. MAC adress and signal strength were visible, but simply no SSID was available. Another interesting thing: It was an "unwepped" signal outside a bank.

Could it be that these special Airopeek drivers enable some unkown functions?

Greetings da RTK

Chris_Schear · 09-12-2002

I own Airopeek NX and I've never noticed such a condition as you've described. Just FYI.

CannonFotter · 09-12-2002

What it is is Ap set not to broadcast SSID.

subterphuge · 09-15-2002

Interesting... sounds like it may be unlocking some of the passive scanning/monitoring behavior like Kismet does.

Is that Airopeek NX driver only available for XP, or can it be found anywhere for 98SE?

rewot · 09-16-2002

Netstumbler work fine with Airopeek NX drivers under XP.
thats AP is configured not to show SSID at "ANY" requests.
SSID Broadcast Disabled - ON - on ATMEL base AP.
Closed AP or Closed Network - on Orinoco AP.

Airopeek drivers put wireless card into promis mode with open 1-11 or 1-14 chanels listen for any wireless transmision.

c0rnholio · 09-16-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by mediamatz
... e.g showing me AP's up without SSID. MAC adress and signal strength were visible, but simply no SSID was available....

from my little knowledge (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong with this):
netstumbler is NOT able to detect access-points that have ssid-broadcasting disabled.
it might be possible that these ap's you are talking about just had set ssid to "blank" or simply used spaces.
i've seen ap's of this kind multiple times, and tried both kismet and netstumbler to see what's going on. both resulted in a blank (or spaces) ssid. so nothing magic in here...

next is the terms:

"cloaked" access-point means:
broadcasting of ssid in the beacon packets have been disabled

closed wireless-lan means:
a client is not able to associate with ssid set to blank or "any". it does not mean that this ap has ssid-broadcasting disabled.

cheers

mvario · 09-16-2002

I've tested with my RG-1100. I have 'Private Network' turned on, which means it's not supposed to broadcast the ssid or allow connections from hosts without the correct ssid set. I also have an ssid configured.

On the laptop I did not have an ssid configured (blank/any) and running NetStumbler it detected the access point, but showed a blank ssid.

09-10-2002	#1 (permalink)
mediamatz Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 4	Interesting: Airopeek NX Orinoco Drivers and Netstumbler Hi @ all, now that i'm proud owner of Airopeek NX i noticed something strange: First, Netstumbler began to do some strange things, e.g showing me AP's up without SSID. MAC adress and signal strength were visible, but simply no SSID was available. Another interesting thing: It was an "unwepped" signal outside a bank. Could it be that these special Airopeek drivers enable some unkown functions? Greetings da RTK __________________ 19 Years old. Monitoring Police, Fire, Ems, Aircraft, Ham's, Cordless Phones, Cell Phones...and ur AP!

09-12-2002	#2 (permalink)
Chris_Schear Packetmonkey Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: WDM, Iowa Posts: 243	I own Airopeek NX and I've never noticed such a condition as you've described. Just FYI. __________________ Regards... http://packetmonkey.net

09-12-2002	#3 (permalink)
CannonFotter SmegHead Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 148	Ditto What it is is Ap set not to broadcast SSID. __________________ Can Smeg, Will Smeg!!!!!!!!!

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09-15-2002	#4 (permalink)
subterphuge /dev/war Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On the Road, Where the WEP is Weak and the Signal is Strong Posts: 90	Interesting... sounds like it may be unlocking some of the passive scanning/monitoring behavior like Kismet does. Is that Airopeek NX driver only available for XP, or can it be found anywhere for 98SE?

09-16-2002	#5 (permalink)
rewot Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sofia,Bulgaria Posts: 21	Netstumbler work fine with Airopeek NX drivers under XP. thats AP is configured not to show SSID at "ANY" requests. SSID Broadcast Disabled - ON - on ATMEL base AP. Closed AP or Closed Network - on Orinoco AP. Airopeek drivers put wireless card into promis mode with open 1-11 or 1-14 chanels listen for any wireless transmision.

09-16-2002	#7 (permalink)
mvario I stumble, therefore I am Join Date: May 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 137	I've tested with my RG-1100. I have 'Private Network' turned on, which means it's not supposed to broadcast the ssid or allow connections from hosts without the correct ssid set. I also have an ssid configured. On the laptop I did not have an ssid configured (blank/any) and running NetStumbler it detected the access point, but showed a blank ssid.