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Old 04-24-2003   #1 (permalink)
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USAPhotoMaps

This is a request for anyone out there with some scripting know-how and some "spare time". I have an excellent mapping tool called USA PhotoMaps that will use .GPX formatted data. Is anyone willing/interested in developing a script that will convert NS to this GPX XML format?
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Re: USAPhotoMaps

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This is a request for anyone out there with some scripting know-how and some "spare time". I have an excellent mapping tool called USA PhotoMaps that will use .GPX formatted data. Is anyone willing/interested in developing a script that will convert NS to this GPX XML format?
Can you send/post a sample GPX file?
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GPX (the GPS eXchange Format)

GPX (the GPS eXchange Format) is a light-weight XML data format for the interchange of GPS data (waypoints, routes, and tracks) between applications and web services on the Internet.

http://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp provides background, access to the schema, and a developers manual.
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Re: GPX (the GPS eXchange Format)

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GPX (the GPS eXchange Format) is a light-weight XML data format for the interchange of GPS data (waypoints, routes, and tracks) between applications and web services on the Internet.

http://www.topografix.com/gpx.asp provides background, access to the schema, and a developers manual.
Looks pretty straight forward. The only problem I see is that Netstumbler doesn't log "track data" in .NS1 files. So you wouldn't be able to trace the path you drove, you'd only be able to plot where an access point is.
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That's all most folks are doing anyway. I just thought this would be a nice mapping package to integrate with NS. It supports both satellite imagery and topography. Very nice!
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That's all most folks are doing anyway. I just thought this would be a nice mapping package to integrate with NS. It supports both satellite imagery and topography. Very nice!
Topographic visulization would be fantastic, I stumble in hilly places and maps that represented this would be great. I''ve been doing some stuff about GIS layers and this is very interesting.

Shame it's USAPhotoMaps though
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Shame it's USAPhotoMaps though
Does the UK have a national database of high altitude photos? It would seem that is the tricky part.
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Does the UK have a national database of high altitude photos? It would seem that is the tricky part.
Funny you should say that, I've just had to submit some substantial work on aerial photography.

Saying that though, I can't remember the exact info (in one ear, onto the paper, nothing remembered type stuff).

But yes, there are tens of millions of (vertical) aerial photos that most cover every sqaure inch of the UK. They are produced for surveys, military applications etc.

There is also a national air photo catalogue and around 10 other large photograph libraries. Non of it digital though, people that want to use it have to digitize it themselves. Also there is issues of altidudanal differences between pictures Blah blah etc etc.

I've got a lot saved on my laptop about it, can post it next time i remember if you like.
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There is a standard elevation format known as Digital Elevation Model (DEM) . If you go to Digital Grove you can find links to all sorts of free, share, and commercial apps for this purpose.

I've played with this a bit. One app, 3DEM is simple and free, but of course limited. I like the idea of a 3D terrain model (especially in hilly areas like up north, eh Thorn?) showing all the NS results.
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... I like the idea of a 3D terrain model (especially in hilly areas like up north, eh Thorn?) showing all the NS results.
Yeah.

Actually you just gave me an idea. I have DeLorme's Topo product which does very nice 3D maps. You can rotate them realtime, etc. Now I'm wondering if can do a 3D plot with imported data...
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Sounds awesome. Please post some pics of whatever results you get. Did you get the Palm/Visor product as well?

On a side-note, I'm looking for a way to get Waypoints and Routes into my Visor. I've started playing with CetusGPS, but haven't completed the testing yet.
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NS-GPX conversions

Well, thanks to the help of a programmer who shall remain nameless (at least until I figure out who he is on the board here) I've got some very sketchy initial results using NS results in USA Photo Maps.

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I just found out that my free hosting provider doesn't want me to direct link to images, so here's a quick ugly page with the two image samples.

This is a very simple sample (say that 5 times fast before having your morning coffee) using default settings for the waypoints. The color and size can be modified. Furthermore, the developer has agreed to add a feature to toggle waypoint labels on or off. Let me know what you think of these intial results.
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Re: NS-GPX conversions

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Here is a topo example and here is a photo example
We would be able to see it better if you had tested the link
prior to posting...
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Already fixing it

I saw that once I tested it here. I updated the html, but it appears there some server-side caching taking place that won't allow the updated page to be loaded. Argh! I hate free hosting!

Please try this link. Sorry for all the confusion.

Test twice, post once!
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Hey! That looks familiar!
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