Microsoft Streets & Trips

PureEvil · 01-22-2007

Howdy...

Long time reader / researcher, first time poster.

First off, I'm not going to state that I'm the smartest man in the room, but I'm not stupid either. Ive been reading and searching through the post here for a good month (honest to god), but I've finally gotten to a point were I have to ask. Does anything on this site work with windows other than Netstumbler itself? Ive searched google all day long, and this site and never find anything useful. It always someone asking the same question, and ten people who must be way smarter than everyone else stating "DO THE SEARCH"... Maybe my searching skills suck, Im not sure, I'm guessing its true because Ive yet to find anything "Helpful". Ive found 100's if not 1000's of threads with people getting blasted because they (I guess) appear to be stupid.

My question is simple. Is there a program for windows, that will convert NS1 files so they can be used with Microsoft Streets & Trips. I dont use linux, I dont activally use Perl. Im not asking for someone to do it for me, Im just hoping to see an honest answer to the question, or a link to an answer... I can read and will if the information can be found...

I have tried the following with no luck. (none of which seem to work)
phpStumblerParser
Stumbverter
Streetstumbler

Thanks in advance for your time and any real help...

wrzwaldo · 01-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEvil

Howdy...

I'm not going to claim to be the smartest guy on the planet, but I'm not stupid either. I have read up on this software, cruised these forums (a lot) and hit google hard, But I've still had a hard time finding anything to help solve the problem of converting files from NS1 to be used in Microsoft Streets & Trips 2007 (or otherwise).

I do however find 100's if not 1000's of post with people with minds I'm guessing much greater than my own blasting some other poor hippy with "DO A SEARCH"...

All I'm asking is for someone to post some kind of link so I can do the research, read the help files or otherwise learn how to convert NS1 files to MSST2007.

Thanks in advance to anyone with helpful information and for your time.

What kind of files will MSST2007 import? And what is the format of said file(s)?

Have you tried this --> StreetStumbler 2004

I don't think the import has changed much between versions. Found it in a few seconds with a search.

Thorn · 01-22-2007

Export it as a Summary text file. (File > Export > Summary) Then use a the converter of your choice.
NetStumbler to Streets & Trips

Dutch · 01-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEvil

Howdy...

I'm not going to claim to be the smartest guy on the planet, but I'm not stupid either. I have read up on this software, cruised these forums (a lot) and hit google hard, But I've still had a hard time finding anything to help solve the problem of converting files from NS1 to be used in Microsoft Streets & Trips 2007 (or otherwise).

I do however find 100's if not 1000's of post with people with minds I'm guessing much greater than my own blasting some other poor hippy with "DO A SEARCH"...

All I'm asking is for someone to post some kind of link so I can do the research, read the help files or otherwise learn how to convert NS1 files to MSST2007.

Try plugging "Streets and Trips" into the supplied forum search, then click on the 4'th returned link. The perl script there works fine on all versions of S&T and MS Autoroute I'

Thanks in advance to anyone with helpful information and for your time

Try plugging the words "streets" and "trips" into the supplied forum seach mechanism, then click on the 4'th tread returned. The perl script enclosed in that thread works fine on all versions of S&T and MS Autoroute that I've tested it with, including S&T 2007.

If you don't know how to use the forum search mechanism, then go to the Welcome Desk, and read the userguide for searching this forum. It's been written with people at your current level of evolution in mind. Yes, that means single celled brainless creatures.

Dutch

Scruge · 01-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEvil

I have tried the following with no luck. (none of which seem to work)
phpStumblerParser
Stumbverter
Streetstumbler

Thanks in advance for your time and any real help...

...I didn't see where you tested this one ...http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-deve...tstumbler.html

Get me the MSST's file requirements and I'll see what it takes to add to knsgem.

In the mean time you might check out beakmyn's nsfrac. As I recall it does all kinds of conversions.

wrzwaldo · 01-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruge

...I didn't see where you tested this one ...http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-deve...tstumbler.html

Get me the MSST's file requirements and I'll see what it takes to add to knsgem.

In the mean time you might check out beakmyn's nsfrac. As I recall it does all kinds of conversions.

Here is the format (I use).

Code:

Name,Latitude,Longitude,Name 2,URL,Type
Active Pass Lighthouse,48.873472,-123.290139,"","",""
Albert Head Light (removed),48.386444,-123.478167,"","",""
Amphitrite Point Lighthouse,48.921139,-125.541167,"","",""
Ballenas Island Light,49.350556,-124.160222,"","",""
Bare Point Light,48.929722,-123.704722,"","",""
Barrett Rock Light,54.242639,-130.343944,"","",""
Berens Island Light,48.424167,-123.391667,"","",""
Brockton Point Light,49.300889,-123.117000,"","",""
Cape Saint James Light,51.936111,-131.014444,"","",""
Capilano Light,49.320500,-123.147444,"","",""
Discovery Island Lighthouse,48.424528,-123.225750,"","",""
Fiddle Reef Light,48.429333,-123.283917,"","",""
Fisgard Lighthouse,48.430389,-123.447556,"","",""
Gallows Point Lighthouse,49.170056,-123.918000,"","",""
Holland Rock Light,54.172333,-130.361028,"","",""
Lawyer Island Light,54.112778,-130.343472,"","",""
Lucy Island Lighthouse,54.295722,-130.608722,"","",""
Pilot Bay Lighthouse,49.638333,-116.884833,"","",""
Pointer Island Light,52.060667,-127.948306,"","",""
Porlier Pass Lighthouse,49.013111,-123.584556,"","",""
Portlock Point Light,48.828056,-123.350556,"","",""
Prospect Point Lighthouse,49.314000,-123.141417,"","",""
Point Atkinson Lighthouse,49.330389,-123.264694,"","",""
Race Rocks Lighthouse,48.298028,-123.581417,"","",""
Sand Heads Light,49.087611,-123.310000,"","",""
Saturna Island Light,48.783000,-123.045833,"","",""
Sheringham Point Lighthouse,48.376694,-123.921083,"","",""
Sisters Islets Light,49.486750,-124.434778,"","",""
Triangle Island,50.862579,-129.082146,"","",""

Scruge · 01-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrzwaldo

Here is the format (I use).

Code:

Name,Latitude,Longitude,Name 2,URL,Type
Active Pass Lighthouse,48.873472,-123.290139,"","",""
Albert Head Light (removed),48.386444,-123.478167,"","",""

That looks simple enough.

What's the "Type" for?

wrzwaldo · 01-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruge

That looks simple enough.

What's the "Type" for?

I use it for WEP for my wardrive imports (just don't have any at work).

the minimum required to put points on a map in S&T is

Name,Latitude,Longitude
Active Pass Lighthouse,48.873472,-123.290139

wrzwaldo · 01-22-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEvil

I have tried the following with no luck. (none of which seem to work)
phpStumblerParser
Stumbverter
Streetstumbler

Thanks in advance for your time and any real help...

What problems did you have with Streetstumbler? Were you using the correct version?

Get this --> http://www.frontiernet.net/~beakmyn/ns1kfrac.htm

Create a .csv and edit out what you don't need.

bobfunland · 01-23-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by PureEvil

I have tried the following with no luck. (none of which seem to work)
phpStumblerParser
Stumbverter
Streetstumbler

Thanks in advance for your time and any real help...

I've never had any problems when using phpStumblerParser. I haven't used Stumbverter. With Streetstumbler, the program would drop an entry (usually the first one in the summary file), but for the most part it worked. Can you provide more information about your problem?

PureEvil · 01-23-2007

I now have “Stumbverter” working, and working very well I might add. Next step, live mapping! I promise to dink with this for a good month before I come back with any noob questions =)

Thanks again to everyone for all the help.

Scruge · 01-23-2007

If anyone wants any of the others like Map Point or Delorme added, this is the time to do it.

Post a sample of your push-pin/map marker file format and I'll see if it can be worked into the next Knsgem release.

@ waldo
Is there a way to specify a push-pin icon in MSST's file?

wrzwaldo · 01-23-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruge

If anyone wants any of the others like Map Point or Delorme added, this is the time to do it.

Post a sample of your push-pin/map marker file format and I'll see if it can be worked into the next Knsgem release.

@ waldo
Is there a way to specify a push-pin icon in MSST's file?

Map Point is the same as S&T.

As for specifying the push-pin I'll have to check.

PureEvil · 01-23-2007

Ok Stumbverter was working great, but then I went out and made a loop around my two block area, and saved the file over the old one of the same two block area. Now when I export, and convert the 133 locations, only 6 locked, and 11 unlocked are exported from stumbverter. If I do a convert all, then all 133 locations are exported but are not sorted. Is there any simple reason to why it would work yesterday, but not today? Yesterday I was able to export UNLOCKED and LOCK and get the total 133 locations, today its only 17 locations exported from 133.

Seems to ONLY be a problem if UNLOCKED and LOCKED are exported on their own.

Scruge · 01-31-2007

The plan was to add MSST support to knsgem.

But after playing around with MSST it looks like one should be able to import the CSV data knsgem produces in the Wigle folder.
1. Open MSST
2. Click Data then select Import
3. Select file type as "CSV"
4. Steer file browser to knsgem\wigle folder
5. Select the CSV file you want to import
6. In the import wizard select the Lat and Long headings you want to use. There will be several to pick from Best, Min and Max. Use the Best set.
7. click finish

If this isn't sufficent let me know.

01-22-2007	#1 (permalink)
PureEvil Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Honestly... Howdy... Long time reader / researcher, first time poster. First off, I'm not going to state that I'm the smartest man in the room, but I'm not stupid either. Ive been reading and searching through the post here for a good month (honest to god), but I've finally gotten to a point were I have to ask. Does anything on this site work with windows other than Netstumbler itself? Ive searched google all day long, and this site and never find anything useful. It always someone asking the same question, and ten people who must be way smarter than everyone else stating "DO THE SEARCH"... Maybe my searching skills suck, Im not sure, I'm guessing its true because Ive yet to find anything "Helpful". Ive found 100's if not 1000's of threads with people getting blasted because they (I guess) appear to be stupid. My question is simple. Is there a program for windows, that will convert NS1 files so they can be used with Microsoft Streets & Trips. I dont use linux, I dont activally use Perl. Im not asking for someone to do it for me, Im just hoping to see an honest answer to the question, or a link to an answer... I can read and will if the information can be found... I have tried the following with no luck. (none of which seem to work) phpStumblerParser Stumbverter Streetstumbler Thanks in advance for your time and any real help... Last edited by PureEvil : 01-23-2007 at 05:17 AM.

01-22-2007	#3 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 9,965	Export it as a Summary text file. (File > Export > Summary) Then use a the converter of your choice. NetStumbler to Streets & Trips __________________ Thorn "You guys'll be chalk outlines without me."

01-23-2007	#12 (permalink)
Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,355	If anyone wants any of the others like Map Point or Delorme added, this is the time to do it. Post a sample of your push-pin/map marker file format and I'll see if it can be worked into the next Knsgem release. @ waldo Is there a way to specify a push-pin icon in MSST's file? __________________ KNSGEM A wifi boundary plotter for Google Earth Click Me

01-23-2007	#14 (permalink)
PureEvil Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	Another quick questions abou this... Ok Stumbverter was working great, but then I went out and made a loop around my two block area, and saved the file over the old one of the same two block area. Now when I export, and convert the 133 locations, only 6 locked, and 11 unlocked are exported from stumbverter. If I do a convert all, then all 133 locations are exported but are not sorted. Is there any simple reason to why it would work yesterday, but not today? Yesterday I was able to export UNLOCKED and LOCK and get the total 133 locations, today its only 17 locations exported from 133. Seems to ONLY be a problem if UNLOCKED and LOCKED are exported on their own. Last edited by PureEvil : 01-23-2007 at 10:25 AM.

01-31-2007	#15 (permalink)
Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,355	The plan was to add MSST support to knsgem. But after playing around with MSST it looks like one should be able to import the CSV data knsgem produces in the Wigle folder. 1. Open MSST 2. Click Data then select Import 3. Select file type as "CSV" 4. Steer file browser to knsgem\wigle folder 5. Select the CSV file you want to import 6. In the import wizard select the Lat and Long headings you want to use. There will be several to pick from Best, Min and Max. Use the Best set. 7. click finish If this isn't sufficent let me know. __________________ KNSGEM A wifi boundary plotter for Google Earth Click Me

01-23-2007	#11 (permalink)
PureEvil Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	I now have “Stumbverter” working, and working very well I might add. Next step, live mapping! I promise to dink with this for a good month before I come back with any noob questions =) Thanks again to everyone for all the help.

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