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Old 04-17-2007   #31 (permalink)
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And why is that? If someone has malicious intentions they will be able to carry them out NS or no NS... Detection of encryption type is very important for statistic data as it shows more accurately of the security aware people or not... WEP is usually what is setup by installers, WPA is usually what a security aware user will use instead (atleast I think).

And I have no improvement suggestions personally, I am a software update nut so I just like updating stuff Maybe a refreshed UI, new icons, more supported devices, etc.
If you want EyeCandy buy a Mac. NS does what it does and it does it cleanly, it doesn't need to be bloated with anymore of a UI than it already has.

As for supported cards, it supports what it needs. Without the Author having inside designer info for the cards that everyone would want to be supported, he cannot have it support more than it already does.
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Old 04-17-2007   #32 (permalink)
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And why is that? If someone has malicious intentions they will be able to carry them out NS or no NS... Detection of encryption type is very important for statistic data as it shows more accurately of the security aware people or not... WEP is usually what is setup by installers, WPA is usually what a security aware user will use instead (atleast I think).

And I have no improvement suggestions personally, I am a software update nut so I just like updating stuff Maybe a refreshed UI, new icons, more supported devices, etc.
Hear, hear. Couldn't have said it better. Tnx Scott

Edit: ...about the statistic data and the part about being an update nut.
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And why is that? If someone has malicious intentions they will be able to carry them out NS or no NS... Detection of encryption type is very important for statistic data as it shows more accurately of the security aware people or not... WEP is usually what is setup by installers, WPA is usually what a security aware user will use instead (atleast I think).

And I have no improvement suggestions personally, I am a nut so I just like stuff Maybe a refreshed UI, new icons, more supported devices, etc.
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Hear, hear. Couldn't have said it better. Tnx Scott

Edit: ...about the statistic data and the part about being a nut.
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Old 04-17-2007   #35 (permalink)
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And why is that? If someone has malicious intentions they will be able to carry them out NS or no NS... Detection of encryption type is very important for statistic data as it shows more accurately of the security aware people or not... WEP is usually what is setup by installers, WPA is usually what a security aware user will use instead (atleast I think).

And I have no improvement suggestions personally, I am a software update nut so I just like updating stuff Maybe a refreshed UI, new icons, more supported devices, etc.
Most AP's comes with encryption disabled. I think the 2WIRE devices that was distributed by an ISP a couple of years ago, came with WEP enabled, and there were no option for WPA at that time, since WPA wasn't implemented.

As for security stats, take a look at the Wigle site.
WPA is better than WEP which is better than none at all. Anybody with 2 functioning braincells will be aware of that.
As long as the sheeple still just open the box and plug the AP in with its default settings (behold the most common SSID in the world : Linksys), the distribution of encrypted vs non-encrypted AP's is just a curiosum.

Knowledgeable people know that securing their AP is a good thing. The sheeple don't.
It's gotten better over the years, thanks to efforts like NS forum moderator Chris aka Roamer's WWWD, and efforts by people here and elsewhere to educate the sheeple.
But saying that such stats show accurately how security aware people are, is taking a long shot. The only thing it shows is if the AP uses encryption or not, for the radio link. It doesn't show in anyway whether there might be other more secure procedures in use.

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Old 04-17-2007   #36 (permalink)
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If you want EyeCandy buy a Mac. NS does what it does and it does it cleanly, it doesn't need to be bloated with anymore of a UI than it already has.

As for supported cards, it supports what it needs. Without the Author having inside designer info for the cards that everyone would want to be supported, he cannot have it support more than it already does.

Or install Vista. I hear the new red screen of doom is nice looking.
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FIXED2!!!
...fans the flames.

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...fans the flames.

/ kARk has idea, fanning flames will involve lots of little posts thus pumping his posts count and increasing his apparent respect - he starts to see how things work in this forum /

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Post count has nothing to do with respect. Some of our most respected members have a pretty low post count.
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...fans the flames.

/ kARk has idea, fanning flames will involve lots of little posts thus pumping his posts count and increasing his apparent respect - he starts to see how things work in this forum /

j/k
Actually, respect is earned around here by contributing useful information to the forum.

Sarcasm, on the other hand, is just another service that's freely provided.
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...The only thing it shows is if the AP uses encryption or not, for the radio link. It doesn't show in anyway whether there might be other more secure procedures in use.

Dutch
Good point. ...WEP / NO-WEP is probably about as useful as anyone is going to need I suppose.

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...fans the flames.

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j/k
Nah, I just think you two (Kark and scott00) are just a couple of uninformed nuts and since I was sitting at my desk scratching mine, I figured I would let you two know what you are sounding like.
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Good point. ...WEP / NO-WEP is probably about as useful as anyone is going to need I suppose.

/ kARk realizes this now and switches band-wagons /
Good to hear. Now the next step is to read all you can on this forum.
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Good point. ...WEP / NO-WEP is probably about as useful as anyone is going to need I suppose.

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As long as it doesn't play elevator music.
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Nah, I just think you two (Kark and scott00) are just a couple of uninformed nuts and since I was sitting at my desk scratching mine, I figured I would let you two know what you are sounding like.
Sorry but I will not be insulted by someone who is probably a 300+ lb (or 120lb) pathetic computer nerd (note I say nerd, not geek). I asked a simple question and a logical follow up and I get flamed (x2).


What is wrong with asking about development after 3 years of inactivity? Or agreeing with the suggestion of encryption type feature?
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Sorry but I will not be insulted by someone who is probably a 300+ lb (or 120lb) pathetic computer nerd (note I say nerd, not geek). I asked a simple question and a logical follow up and I get flamed (x2).
I guess you don't have to worry about it for at least 7 days since that's how long your vacation is now from here. If you decide to register under another name, think again. It's been tried before and NOBODY has ever been able to get by us. This includes filing complaints with ISP's and getting service terminated.
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