192.168.0.1 and 169.254.252.131 help! :(

elementalwindx · 05-04-2004

I have a wireless netgear 802.11G setup and I have a laptop wirelessly connected w/ a G card. came company same everything i know its compatable. I also have a PC Desktop connected via the lan over cat5 to the wireless router. well both the laptop and the desktop have windows 98. The laptop's ip is 192.168.0.5 and the desktops ip is 169.254.252.131 and the laptops subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the desktop is 255.255.0.0. can someone explain this? I tried reinstalling tcp/ip protocols and such. and also how can I fix this? i want to be able to share files between the laptop and the desktop

P.S. both the settings on the laptop and desktop in network properties are the same. set ip to automatically get thru dhcp server. there is no static ip set on either machine.

iceburn68 · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by elementalwindx

I have a wireless netgear 802.11G setup and I have a laptop wirelessly connected w/ a G card. came company same everything i know its compatable. I also have a PC Desktop connected via the lan over cat5 to the wireless router. well both the laptop and the desktop have windows 98. The laptop's ip is 192.168.0.5 and the desktops ip is 169.254.252.131 and the laptops subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the desktop is 255.255.0.0. can someone explain this? I tried reinstalling tcp/ip protocols and such. and also how can I fix this? i want to be able to share files between the laptop and the desktop

Aight, should be an easy solution but first: what model is the router/AP? persuming you have a internet connection, do they both use the connection successfully? Finally, are you running DHCP (i would guess you are)?

elementalwindx · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by iceburn68

Aight, should be an easy solution but first: what model is the router/AP? persuming you have a internet connection, do they both use the connection successfully? Finally, are you running DHCP (i would guess you are)?

I am running DHCP on the router. there is no internet connection yet.

I had another desktop pc setup on the same router that worked perfectly fine with the laptop. but i had to get it to work with another desktop and thats where im stuck with this problem

Its a NetGear 54Mbps 802.11G. not sure what model, its not in front of me

maverick929 · 05-04-2004

actually, i'm having the same issue (or at least i think it is). I'm getting a 169 address on my laptop with a built in microsoft b card. I'm using a linksys b router. All the other computers i have are functioning fine with the DHCP server (192.168.1.x address range w/ 255.255.255.0). I've already tried reinstalling TCP/IP and going through the steps to fix a possible corrupted Winsock problem (followed the instructions at microsoft's site). Any help would be appreciated, as i do not have access to a means to reinstall windows. laptop is running XP, by the way. I have no idea how this could have happened. I just came home one day, turned on the laptop and found it like this (although i've heard of that happening to a bunch of other people).

G8tK33per · 05-04-2004

The 169.254 address is an automatically assigned address when the client can't find the DHCP server. Are you using MAC address filtering that hasn't included the desktop?

elementalwindx · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by G8tK33per

The 169.254 address is an automatically assigned address when the client can't find the DHCP server. Are you using MAC address filtering that hasn't included the desktop?

all settings on the router are default straight out of the box.

iceburn68 · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by elementalwindx

all settings on the router are default straight out of the box.

The computer thats getting the weird address? what happens is you /releaseall and then /renew, still get the weird IP and subnet?

G8tK33per · 05-04-2004

Make sure the subnet mask on the desktoip is the same as the settings on the router. Once that's done do a release/renew on the desktop, see if that helps.

elementalwindx · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by G8tK33per

Make sure the subnet mask on the desktoip is the same as the settings on the router. Once that's done do a release/renew on the desktop, see if that helps.

How do you set the subnet mask without setting an ip address with it, and not making it static?

You cant.

I tried the ip renew thing. it gave me the same ip again.

iceburn68 · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by elementalwindx

How do you set the subnet mask without setting an ip address with it, and not making it static?

You cant.

I tried the ip renew thing. it gave me the same ip again.

A. I know ur probably getting angry but don't take it out on people trying to help ya

B. You are sure you released, got 0.0.0.0, and then renewed?

G8tK33per · 05-04-2004

I don't think he's angry, just pissed at the technology.

Try setting the ip info manually within the range of the router settings to see if can at least talk to the router that way.

elementalwindx · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by iceburn68

A. I know ur probably getting angry but don't take it out on people trying to help ya

B. You are sure you released, got 0.0.0.0, and then renewed?

nah im not taking it out on anybody. but yea i did that and it didn't do anything new.

and what i dont get is why does one desktop work perfectly but the 2nd desktop didnt.

dgstinner · 05-04-2004

Have you tried a different port in the router? Have you tried a different cable? Are you using a regular patch cable or crossover?

iceburn68 · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by elementalwindx

and what i dont get is why does one desktop work perfectly but the 2nd desktop didnt.

Makes me think there is definitly something wrong with the computer itself, i just can't figure out what . . . even after you reinstalled all the networking stuff it was still no go ehh?

elementalwindx · 05-04-2004

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Originally Posted by dgstinner

Have you tried a different port in the router? Have you tried a different cable? Are you using a regular patch cable or crossover?

I used the sAme port and cable on desktop 1 as i am desktop 2. and desktop 1 worked.

but that is a reasonable idea i guess. i'll add that to my checklist of things to try in the morning. (its not in front of me right now) but i know everythig i did and what happened. so please continue to help me, i know someones thinkin of something i havnt.

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elementalwindx Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 17	192.168.0.1 and 169.254.252.131 help! :( I have a wireless netgear 802.11G setup and I have a laptop wirelessly connected w/ a G card. came company same everything i know its compatable. I also have a PC Desktop connected via the lan over cat5 to the wireless router. well both the laptop and the desktop have windows 98. The laptop's ip is 192.168.0.5 and the desktops ip is 169.254.252.131 and the laptops subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and the desktop is 255.255.0.0. can someone explain this? I tried reinstalling tcp/ip protocols and such. and also how can I fix this? i want to be able to share files between the laptop and the desktop P.S. both the settings on the laptop and desktop in network properties are the same. set ip to automatically get thru dhcp server. there is no static ip set on either machine. Last edited by elementalwindx : 05-04-2004 at 05:44 PM.

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G8tK33per Asshole Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Goomba's Booty Boardwalk Posts: 6,128	The 169.254 address is an automatically assigned address when the client can't find the DHCP server. Are you using MAC address filtering that hasn't included the desktop? __________________ "My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention." Sons of Confederate Veterans

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G8tK33per Asshole Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Goomba's Booty Boardwalk Posts: 6,128	Make sure the subnet mask on the desktoip is the same as the settings on the router. Once that's done do a release/renew on the desktop, see if that helps. __________________ "My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention." Sons of Confederate Veterans

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G8tK33per Asshole Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Goomba's Booty Boardwalk Posts: 6,128	I don't think he's angry, just pissed at the technology. Try setting the ip info manually within the range of the router settings to see if can at least talk to the router that way. __________________ "My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention." Sons of Confederate Veterans

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05-04-2004	#4 (permalink)
maverick929 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 45	actually, i'm having the same issue (or at least i think it is). I'm getting a 169 address on my laptop with a built in microsoft b card. I'm using a linksys b router. All the other computers i have are functioning fine with the DHCP server (192.168.1.x address range w/ 255.255.255.0). I've already tried reinstalling TCP/IP and going through the steps to fix a possible corrupted Winsock problem (followed the instructions at microsoft's site). Any help would be appreciated, as i do not have access to a means to reinstall windows. laptop is running XP, by the way. I have no idea how this could have happened. I just came home one day, turned on the laptop and found it like this (although i've heard of that happening to a bunch of other people).

05-04-2004	#13 (permalink)
dgstinner Wardriver in Jersey Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 99	Have you tried a different port in the router? Have you tried a different cable? Are you using a regular patch cable or crossover?