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Old 04-22-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Dream-team connection manager
For several days I'm digging the net for a replacement of WinXP built-in WZC.
Can't say that my quest is over, but here are some thoughts before.

A perfect connection manager should:


Be generic (support *most* cards - USB, PCMCIA, MiniPCI).

Small (Intel Proset latest distro is 80Mb - can you believe that? crazy!)

Display all possible information about the AP (MAC, vendor lookup)

Be able to lock to specific AP if many of them with same SSID are in range.

The last one is the most important! I have 5 AP's with the same SSID, but they have different internet connections.
And unfortunately, the slowest one (128kb ADSL) has the strongest signal. While fastest one (switched into 10Mbit) has a slightly weaker signal.
Nether Windows Zero Configuration daemon, nor any other third-party software allows me to choose among several AP's and "lock" to the fastest one (by MAC).

So far I tried:

Intel Proset - bloatware, awful interface, slow.
http://www.intel.com/network/connect...t_software.htm

BVRP Connection Manager - they tried to make fancy design and forgot the rest.
http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/connectionmanager/

Xenon Wardrive Toolbox - this is a joke! the windows arent even resizable.
http://www.xenon-inc.com/index.php?n...pid=16&Surfer=

NetSwitcher - piece of crap, enough said.
http://www.netswitcher.com/

Boingo Wireless Manager - this one is nice, at least I stopped with it until I find any better. Shows AP's with same SSID, but cant choose. Although easy to use for most of people.
http://www.boingo.com/

Conclusion: I wish everybody to wait until a one beautiful day, when you right-click in Netstumbler on a desired AP and connect to it. A needful feature for all!

The search continues, please post links to alternative connection managers here!
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Originally Posted by CaesarNero
For several days I'm digging the net for a replacement of WinXP built-in WZC.
Can't say that my quest is over, but here are some thoughts before.

A perfect connection manager should:


Be generic (support *most* cards - USB, PCMCIA, MiniPCI).

Small (Intel Proset latest distro is 80Mb - can you believe that? crazy!)

Display all possible information about the AP (MAC, vendor lookup)

Be able to lock to specific AP if many of them with same SSID are in range.

The last one is the most important! I have 5 AP's with the same SSID, but they have different internet connections.
And unfortunately, the slowest one (128kb ADSL) has the strongest signal. While fastest one (switched into 10Mbit) has a slightly weaker signal.
Nether Windows Zero Configuration daemon, nor any other third-party software allows me to choose among several AP's and "lock" to the fastest one (by MAC).

So far I tried:

Intel Proset - bloatware, awful interface, slow.
http://www.intel.com/network/connect...t_software.htm

BVRP Connection Manager - they tried to make fancy design and forgot the rest.
http://www.bvrp.com/eng/products/connectionmanager/

Xenon Wardrive Toolbox - this is a joke! the windows arent even resizable.
http://www.xenon-inc.com/index.php?n...pid=16&Surfer=

NetSwitcher - piece of crap, enough said.
http://www.netswitcher.com/

Boingo Wireless Manager - this one is nice, at least I stopped with it until I find any better. Shows AP's with same SSID, but cant choose. Although easy to use for most of people.
http://www.boingo.com/

Conclusion: I wish everybody to wait until a one beautiful day, when you right-click in Netstumbler on a desired AP and connect to it. A needful feature for all!

The search continues, please post links to alternative connection managers here!
And I'm quite certain that you have explicit permission to connect to those AP's with the same SSID and different internet connections right?

After all, you wouldn't want to come here claiming to be a theif, now would you?
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Of course I have. But that's offtopic, man.
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Conclusion: I wish everybody to wait until a one beautiful day, when you right-click in Netstumbler on a desired AP and connect to it. A needful feature for all!
If you had read any of included documentation, you'd know why that is not a feature in NS.
Let me repeat it once more in big letters :
Network Stumbler is an AUDIT-TOOL, NOT a connection manager.

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blah blah blah...

Conclusion: I wish everybody to wait until a one beautiful day, when you right-click in Netstumbler on a desired AP and connect to it. A needful feature for all!

The search continues, please post links to alternative connection managers here!
NetStumbler is not and will (I hope) never be a connection manager! It is an auditing tool. And since this is in the lounge I'll be nice.
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Of course I have. But that's offtopic, man.
Damn, did my bullshit meter just fall through the floor.
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But that's offtopic, man.

As is your post.

What was your "basic" NetStumbler/WiFi question again?
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THATS WHY this thread is about the alternatives. =)
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Of course I have. But that's offtopic, man.
No it isn't. Are those AP's yours, part of the same network topology, or just the 5 neighbours with a default Linksys AP setup that you happen to be able to see ?

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THATS WHY this thread is about the alternatives. =)
So rather than post in the "software" forum you posted out of topic here? Good move!
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Move it to a right section =)
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NetStumbler is not and will (I hope) never be a connection manager! It is an auditing tool. And since this is in the lounge I'll be nice.
Is it ? Damn, my eyes must be fooling me again....

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So, now that it's no longer in the lounge, I challenge you do come up with a scenario that you have access to 5 AP's all with the same SSID and different network connections that you have explicit permission to use without violating the TOS of those 5 internet connections.
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Be able to lock to specific AP if many of them with same SSID are in range.

The last one is the most important! I have 5 AP's with the same SSID, but they have different internet connections.
And unfortunately, the slowest one (128kb ADSL) has the strongest signal. While fastest one (switched into 10Mbit) has a slightly weaker signal.
Nether Windows Zero Configuration daemon, nor any other third-party software allows me to choose among several AP's and "lock" to the fastest one (by MAC).
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<sigh> You might want to look up the 802.11 standard and understand why this is A) a violation of the standard, and B) why it is undesirable. Hint: Roaming.

There is a simple way to do this and to conform to the standard: Give different WLANs different SSIDs.

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... bloatware ...

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Conclusion: I wish everybody to wait until a one beautiful day, when you right-click in Netstumbler on a desired AP and connect to it. A needful feature for all!

...
Let's see, in one breath you complain about "bloatware," yet in the next you want to add a connection manager to NetStumbler. Do you see the dichotomy here?
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<sigh> You might want to look up the 802.11 standard and understand why this is A) a violation of the standard, and B) why it is undesirable. Hint: Roaming.

There is a simple way to do this and to conform to the standard: Give different WLANs different SSIDs.


Let's see, in one breath you complain about "bloatware," yet in the next you want to add a connection manager to NetStumbler. Do you see the dichotomy here?
I'd be suprised if he knows his butt from a hole in the ground.
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