Linksys SES (Secure Easy Setup)

cellpunxer · 06-13-2007

I have been reading about Linksys SES (Secure Easy Setup) which generates a WPA-PSK passphrase automatically with a push of a single button on the router,My Question is how many characters would this passphrase be.

Dutch · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by cellpunxer

I have been reading about Linksys SES (Secure Easy Setup) which generates a WPA-PSK passphrase automatically with a push of a single button on the router,My Question is how many characters would this passphrase be.

This is www.netstumbler.org. Instead of turning right, You should have turned left at the crossroads, that would have brought you to www.linksys.com.

So do an aboutface, return the same route you came, then continue straight over, when you get to the crossroad.

Enjoy the journey.

Dutch

cellpunxer · 06-13-2007

Discussion forum for non-Netstumbler wireless auditing or wireless related software,Hmmm.....Last time i checked Linksys wireless setup software is "wireless related software" So if anyone knows,I would be much a Appreciative.

Starpoint · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by cellpunxer

Discussion forum for non-Netstumbler wireless auditing or wireless related software,Hmmm.....Last time i checked Linksys wireless setup software is "wireless related software" So if anyone knows,I would be much a Appreciative.

Um... why does it matter to you how many characters it gens?

Besides, teasing a mod is bad for you on here, unless you are a triple E cupped blond swedish nurse who moonlights as a yoga/aerobics instructor.

Then its ok to tease the mods.

cellpunxer · 06-13-2007

I am not trying to tease Dutch in anyway I am just trying to find the answer to my question guys.I have searched Linksys.com and have found no answers.I am in search of a router with high security, and want a router that generates a passphrase thats 64 characters long. Which from what i understand is the maximum amount of characters a passphrase can be.

Starpoint · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by cellpunxer

I am not trying to tease Dutch in anyway I am just trying to find the answer to my question guys.I have searched Linksys.com and have found no answers.I am in search of a router with high security, and want a router that generates a passphrase thats 64 characters long. Which from what i understand is the maximum amount of characters a passphrase can be.

Some questions have no answers. Point is that if their pass-phrase generator works, why worry about it?

If its your router you can tinker with the settings, if you are trying to access someone else's router... RUUUUUUUUUUN!!!!

beakmyn · 06-13-2007

Last time I used the secure easy setup it created a captive portal that ran a setup wizard when I put my laptop on dhcp and used Internet Explorer. If that doesn't work then look into installing the software that came with the router.

Thorn · 06-13-2007

It seems to be about 15 characters. As far as I know, no router does random generation 64 characters long. Also, the Linksys SES transmits the passphrase in the clear for several minutes to allow other SES units to sync up and learn the passphrase. If a third party intercepts it at that time, all you've gained is false security.

My suggestion is to merely come up with your own passphrase and keep it secret. If you want it to be 64 characters, type out 64 characters.

The security of WPA and WPA2 doesn't depend on whether the router generates the passphrase, but whether the passphrase is subject to a dictionary attack. The longer and more random the passphrase, the less likely it will be successfully attacked.

Starpoint · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Thorn

It seems to be about 15 characters. As far as I know, no router does random generation 64 characters long. Also, the Linksys SES transmits the passphrase in the clear for several minutes to allow other SES units to sync up and learn the passphrase. If a third party intercepts it at that time, all you've gained is false security.

My suggestion is to merely come up with your own passphrase and keep it secret. If you want it to be 64 characters, type out 64 characters.

The security of WPA and WPA2 doesn't depend on whether the router generates the passphrase, but whether the passphrase is subject to a dictionary attack. The longer and more random the passphrase, the less likely it will be successfully attacked.

True that, when my girlfriend asked me to set up her wifi security, I told her it will be very secure since I do not want anyone getting to her collection of pr0n.So now the PSK is set to something no dictionary would have(you would have to know alot about her taste in music, art and other stuff to guess the prhase), mac filtering and no broadcast.

Now she brags about how secure her wifi is and how she set it up.. I let her take credit since while I was setting it up, I was explaining each step.

streaker69 · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Starpoint

True that, when my girlfriend asked me to set up her wifi security, I told her it will be very secure since I do not want anyone getting to her collection of pr0n.So now the PSK is set to something no dictionary would have(you would have to know alot about her taste in music, art and other stuff to guess the prhase), mac filtering and no broadcast.

Now she brags about how secure her wifi is and how she set it up.. I let her take credit since while I was setting it up, I was explaining each step.

Lemme guess it's:

Several small species of furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict.

am I right? (yes, it's a title to a real song)

Starpoint · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by streaker69

Lemme guess it's:

Several small species of furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict.

am I right? (yes, it's a title to a real song)

What the WPA key ? nope.

beakmyn · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by streaker69

Lemme guess it's:

Several small species of furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict.

am I right? (yes, it's a title to a real song)

Never did really care for that one. I do however prefer Mr. Water's albums and find _Amused to Death_ still quite applicable.

Yes, I have just about all of them including several unreleased and RoIos

wrzwaldo · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by streaker69

Lemme guess it's:

Several small species of furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a pict.

am I right? (yes, it's a title to a real song)

Careful with that axe, Eugene!

cellpunxer · 06-13-2007

I guess i am better off creating my own passphrase, considering Linksys SES wont generate the amount of characters i prefer (64). Thanks everyone.

wrzwaldo · 06-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Thorn

It seems to be about 15 characters. As far as I know, no router does random generation 64 characters long. Also, the Linksys SES transmits the passphrase in the clear for several minutes to allow other SES units to sync up and learn the passphrase. If a third party intercepts it at that time, all you've gained is false security.

That's farking brilliant!

06-13-2007	#1 (permalink)
cellpunxer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6	Linksys SES (Secure Easy Setup) I have been reading about Linksys SES (Secure Easy Setup) which generates a WPA-PSK passphrase automatically with a push of a single button on the router,My Question is how many characters would this passphrase be.

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cellpunxer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6	"Discussion forum for non-Netstumbler wireless auditing or wireless related software" Discussion forum for non-Netstumbler wireless auditing or wireless related software,Hmmm.....Last time i checked Linksys wireless setup software is "wireless related software" So if anyone knows,I would be much a Appreciative.

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cellpunxer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6	Linksys SES I am not trying to tease Dutch in anyway I am just trying to find the answer to my question guys.I have searched Linksys.com and have found no answers.I am in search of a router with high security, and want a router that generates a passphrase thats 64 characters long. Which from what i understand is the maximum amount of characters a passphrase can be.

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Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,360	It seems to be about 15 characters. As far as I know, no router does random generation 64 characters long. Also, the Linksys SES transmits the passphrase in the clear for several minutes to allow other SES units to sync up and learn the passphrase. If a third party intercepts it at that time, all you've gained is false security. My suggestion is to merely come up with your own passphrase and keep it secret. If you want it to be 64 characters, type out 64 characters. The security of WPA and WPA2 doesn't depend on whether the router generates the passphrase, but whether the passphrase is subject to a dictionary attack. The longer and more random the passphrase, the less likely it will be successfully attacked. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"

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cellpunxer Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 6	Linksys SES I guess i am better off creating my own passphrase, considering Linksys SES wont generate the amount of characters i prefer (64). Thanks everyone. Last edited by cellpunxer : 06-13-2007 at 09:59 AM.

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