XP and netstumbler not playing nice

drunkenwebmastr · 04-07-2004

ok, here's the problem i have. i was running my laptop on 98 just fine with my buffalotech card. only problem was that i had to reboot after changing any network settings, and that's a bitch. so i busted out my xtra copy of xp pro and went to town. scans fine with stumbler, but only the access points i'm connected to stay lit up. anything else will light up for one beacon, then go away, even if it's strong. if i turn off the zero config service, it won't pick up anything. if i turn off net stumbler, the built in windows scanner can see other networks fine. i've tried every combination i can find of turning on and off optional wireless settings through windows. anybody had this problem b4?
drunk

ThreePts · 04-07-2004

try turning off the auto configure (whatever its labeled) option on the windows wireless connection.

drunkenwebmastr · 04-07-2004

tried that. didn't seem to help any. thanks though

wrzwaldo · 04-07-2004

Are you using "any" for your SSID (while stumbling)?

drunkenwebmastr · 04-07-2004

ssid is blank. which always worked b4. but what i've been doing lately is having the computer connect to an access point that's in my car that way i know it's still scanning. i've had issues b4 where i was mapping a new area and i'd drive for quite a while without finding anything. then i'd come to an area i was familiar with and wouldn't find access points that should be there. reboot and they'd pop up. short answer: no

audit · 04-07-2004

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Originally Posted by drunkenwebmastr

short answer: no

Short answer = XP sucks for wardriving period. use Win2K for it if your going to use windows.

litehedded · 04-07-2004

strange question but....buffalo cards aren't supported are they?

drunkenwebmastr · 04-07-2004

yes they are. they use an orinoco chipset. works beautifully. or at least used to. i've got an orinoco silver card also. it's my backup card incase i break my buffalo. will happen someday. i spent half the day fixing dongles for external antennas and rewiring shitty APs for externals. so lots of stuff gets broken.....

King_Ice_Flash · 04-07-2004

Are you using the windows client manager or the Buffalo one? And which drivers?

litehedded · 04-07-2004

driver or firmware update?

drunkenwebmastr · 04-07-2004

to my knowledge my buffalo card didn't come with a client program. all i got with it was the software to configure a buffalo access point which i don't own. at current i'm using the windows drivers, because i installed windows while driving down the road in my friend's car. i'm currently working on getting all my updates including looking for newer drivers and firmware

litehedded · 04-07-2004

if it's just a rebranded orinoco dl the orinoco drivers and firmware from the michiganwireless tools section and see if that helps

drunkenwebmastr · 04-07-2004

it uses the orinoco chipset, but is a different card. kind of like how saphire or tyan release ati grafix cards. the driver is different for the 2 cards, because i did try b4 to get them to use eachother's drivers when i didn't have cds handy and it wasn't happy. i found a driver update for the buffalo, but they didn't have a firmware update :-/

Prime991 · 05-03-2004

I have a dell inspiron with a pentium m 2.4, Built in wireless.

Netstumbler will work for awhile as long as it's finding aps. But if it doesn't find them for awhile it won't find them at all. I can park in front of my house and it won't pick up my own signal. If I shut off netstumbler and start it back up it will work. Just wondering if there is something I can do about it.

BTW this is my first post. Lots of info and great ideas.

G8tK33per · 05-04-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by drunkenwebmastr

ok, here's the problem i have. i was running my laptop on 98 just fine with my buffalotech card. only problem was that i had to reboot after changing any network settings, and that's a bitch. so i busted out my xtra copy of xp pro and went to town. scans fine with stumbler, but only the access points i'm connected to stay lit up. anything else will light up for one beacon, then go away, even if it's strong. if i turn off the zero config service, it won't pick up anything. if i turn off net stumbler, the built in windows scanner can see other networks fine. i've tried every combination i can find of turning on and off optional wireless settings through windows. anybody had this problem b4?
drunk

Type like an adult or go somewhere else.

04-07-2004	#1 (permalink)
drunkenwebmastr Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: basement Posts: 8	XP and netstumbler not playing nice ok, here's the problem i have. i was running my laptop on 98 just fine with my buffalotech card. only problem was that i had to reboot after changing any network settings, and that's a bitch. so i busted out my xtra copy of xp pro and went to town. scans fine with stumbler, but only the access points i'm connected to stay lit up. anything else will light up for one beacon, then go away, even if it's strong. if i turn off the zero config service, it won't pick up anything. if i turn off net stumbler, the built in windows scanner can see other networks fine. i've tried every combination i can find of turning on and off optional wireless settings through windows. anybody had this problem b4? drunk

04-07-2004	#2 (permalink)
ThreePts Desert Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 136	try turning off the auto configure (whatever its labeled) option on the windows wireless connection. __________________ WebGoonies.com: Life of a father to be... )( WarWounds )(

04-07-2004	#7 (permalink)
litehedded P.I.M.P. Productions Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 110	strange question but....buffalo cards aren't supported are they? __________________ -fhgwghads

04-07-2004	#9 (permalink)
King_Ice_Flash Alien Paranoid Stumbler Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 2,688	Are you using the windows client manager or the Buffalo one? And which drivers? __________________ "Yeah," said a voice from under the table, "you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel."

04-07-2004	#10 (permalink)
litehedded P.I.M.P. Productions Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 110	driver or firmware update? __________________ -fhgwghads

04-07-2004	#3 (permalink)
drunkenwebmastr Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: basement Posts: 8	tried that. didn't seem to help any. thanks though

04-07-2004	#4 (permalink)
wrzwaldo I amuse you? Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,141	Are you using "any" for your SSID (while stumbling)?

04-07-2004	#5 (permalink)
drunkenwebmastr Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: basement Posts: 8	ssid is blank. which always worked b4. but what i've been doing lately is having the computer connect to an access point that's in my car that way i know it's still scanning. i've had issues b4 where i was mapping a new area and i'd drive for quite a while without finding anything. then i'd come to an area i was familiar with and wouldn't find access points that should be there. reboot and they'd pop up. short answer: no

04-07-2004	#8 (permalink)
drunkenwebmastr Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: basement Posts: 8	yes they are. they use an orinoco chipset. works beautifully. or at least used to. i've got an orinoco silver card also. it's my backup card incase i break my buffalo. will happen someday. i spent half the day fixing dongles for external antennas and rewiring shitty APs for externals. so lots of stuff gets broken.....

04-07-2004	#11 (permalink)
drunkenwebmastr Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: basement Posts: 8	to my knowledge my buffalo card didn't come with a client program. all i got with it was the software to configure a buffalo access point which i don't own. at current i'm using the windows drivers, because i installed windows while driving down the road in my friend's car. i'm currently working on getting all my updates including looking for newer drivers and firmware

04-07-2004	#12 (permalink)
litehedded P.I.M.P. Productions Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 110	if it's just a rebranded orinoco dl the orinoco drivers and firmware from the michiganwireless tools section and see if that helps __________________ -fhgwghads

04-07-2004	#13 (permalink)
drunkenwebmastr Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: basement Posts: 8	it uses the orinoco chipset, but is a different card. kind of like how saphire or tyan release ati grafix cards. the driver is different for the 2 cards, because i did try b4 to get them to use eachother's drivers when i didn't have cds handy and it wasn't happy. i found a driver update for the buffalo, but they didn't have a firmware update :-/

05-03-2004	#14 (permalink)
Prime991 Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1	I'm having the same problem I have a dell inspiron with a pentium m 2.4, Built in wireless. Netstumbler will work for awhile as long as it's finding aps. But if it doesn't find them for awhile it won't find them at all. I can park in front of my house and it won't pick up my own signal. If I shut off netstumbler and start it back up it will work. Just wondering if there is something I can do about it. BTW this is my first post. Lots of info and great ideas.

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