Help with Tiger / orinoco classic gold (8410-WD)

valerino · 05-08-2005

Hi,
i've bought an orinoco classic gold card (branded 8410-WD).
On the box it says Proxim, on the back of the card it says Agere.
Anyway, the card is proven to work both on linux and on windows (i'm using it every day). Tried on my beloved mac (Powerbook 17 1.5ghz w/airport extreme), it isn't recognized at all. As soon as i insert it, the OS reports it as "Unknown Vendor, Unknown Card Type".

From system.log, i can see this as soon as i insert the card :
pccard-no-cis: family specific matching fails
IOPCCardDevice: there is no VersioneOneInfo CIS tuple to match against?

I've tried every possible driver, including

sourceforge wirelessdriver
IOXpert driver (both 10.3 and 10.4 versions)
OrangeWare driver

still the same result.

I've tried this only on tiger, since i've upgraded my system just before buying the card. Do any of you knows if this is a tiger-only issue, or maybe there's something wrong in my setup ?
I've bought this card since i'd like to use the promiscuous mode feature not available for airport extreme .......

regards,
valerio

Barry · 05-08-2005

What does kismac say?? I have a Lucent Gold card and it works great. Also have you upgraded to the newest kismac for Tiger?

valerino · 05-08-2005

yes, i tried the late kismac build for tiger.
I select the orinoco driver (but i've tried the others too), and it just shows can't recognize the card/wrong driver/card not inserted message

What puzzles me is that the OS don't recognize it at all itself......

regards,
valerio

Modrak · 05-13-2005

For me, the IOXperts driver just works but it's not opensource like the wirelessdriver on sourceforge :/

So now, I'm hooked up via ethernet.
Anybody knows the reason why the driver doesn't work ?
IMHO Changed acess to devices, kernel modules etc.

05-23-2005

Valernio, What happened? Issue resolved or what?

Modrak · 06-13-2005

Finaly I get the wirelessdriver to work
Even scanning with KisMAC work...

So...
Download and install the official beta-6 for tiger from wirelessdriver.sf.net
Download and install KisMAC 2.0a or better....say YES to install the patch
Download http://3web.dkm.cz/modrak/WirelessDriver.kext.zip MY kernel extesion...patched to work with KisMAC...unloading,mac changing etc...
Unpack MY kext to /System/Library/Extensions/ -- you'll need to authenticate..

launch Terminal.app
Now in the command line do:
sudo su
(enter your admin password)
chown -R root /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext
chgpr -R wheel /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext

and REBOOT

That's all, kismac works and of course the wireless connection...under Tiger

Hope this will help...
Will post sourcecode if somebody wants...pack up my whole directory with XCode project...
Post any problems and commeny.Feedback is welcome.

Ondra.

wrzwaldo · 06-13-2005

@ Modrak,

Fantastic cross-post!

http://www.netstumbler.org/showpost....47&postcount=8

Help with Tiger / orinoco classic gold (8410-WD)

Thorn · 06-13-2005

Modrak, try reading the rules.

Crosspost deleted.

johnycsh · 08-16-2005

Hey Modrak. Glad to see someone finally did this!
Could you please give me a url to the code? I was hacking
around this driver for awhile and would be curious to see
what you changed.

-Thanks
-johnycsh
http://www.hick.org/~johnycsh

hard-mac · 09-10-2005

Thanks for the work on the driver. Access to the source would be sweet!

loadedsith · 09-10-2005

I think I should mention for ubernoobs that
" chgpr -R wheel /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext"
should be
"chgrp -R wheel /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext"
heh, other then that little typo the whole fix worked for me and id love to see a copy of the source

hard-mac · 09-11-2005

Has anyone else the MAC changing working with this driver and method?

I am not sure if I should be using the WirelessMAC utility which doesnt seem to do anything!?

or editing the patch file with a new MAC address and building a new WirelessDriver.kext for each MAC address?

if so - how does the address formatting work exactly? ( %.2X:%.2X:%.2X:%.2X:%.2X:%.2X\n )

People may also be interested in reading Modrak's other post to the WirelessDriver mailing list: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/f...&forum_id=3055

Cheers,
Thomas

http://members.lycos.co.uk/hardapple/

05-08-2005	#1 (permalink)
valerino Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2	Help with Tiger / orinoco classic gold (8410-WD) Hi, i've bought an orinoco classic gold card (branded 8410-WD). On the box it says Proxim, on the back of the card it says Agere. Anyway, the card is proven to work both on linux and on windows (i'm using it every day). Tried on my beloved mac (Powerbook 17 1.5ghz w/airport extreme), it isn't recognized at all. As soon as i insert it, the OS reports it as "Unknown Vendor, Unknown Card Type". From system.log, i can see this as soon as i insert the card : pccard-no-cis: family specific matching fails IOPCCardDevice: there is no VersioneOneInfo CIS tuple to match against? I've tried every possible driver, including sourceforge wirelessdriver IOXpert driver (both 10.3 and 10.4 versions) OrangeWare driver still the same result. I've tried this only on tiger, since i've upgraded my system just before buying the card. Do any of you knows if this is a tiger-only issue, or maybe there's something wrong in my setup ? I've bought this card since i'd like to use the promiscuous mode feature not available for airport extreme ....... regards, valerio

05-08-2005	#2 (permalink)
Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,049	What does kismac say?? I have a Lucent Gold card and it works great. Also have you upgraded to the newest kismac for Tiger? __________________ Never do anything you don't want to explain to the paramedics.

06-13-2005	#6 (permalink)
Modrak Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6	Wow Finaly I get the wirelessdriver to work Even scanning with KisMAC work... So... Download and install the official beta-6 for tiger from wirelessdriver.sf.net Download and install KisMAC 2.0a or better....say YES to install the patch Download http://3web.dkm.cz/modrak/WirelessDriver.kext.zip MY kernel extesion...patched to work with KisMAC...unloading,mac changing etc... Unpack MY kext to /System/Library/Extensions/ -- you'll need to authenticate.. launch Terminal.app Now in the command line do: sudo su (enter your admin password) chown -R root /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext chgpr -R wheel /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext and REBOOT That's all, kismac works and of course the wireless connection...under Tiger Hope this will help... Will post sourcecode if somebody wants...pack up my whole directory with XCode project... Post any problems and commeny.Feedback is welcome. Ondra.

06-13-2005	#8 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,494	Modrak, try reading the rules. Crosspost deleted. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"

08-16-2005	#9 (permalink)
johnycsh Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1	source code Hey Modrak. Glad to see someone finally did this! Could you please give me a url to the code? I was hacking around this driver for awhile and would be curious to see what you changed. -Thanks -johnycsh http://www.hick.org/~johnycsh

05-08-2005	#3 (permalink)
valerino Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2	yes, i tried the late kismac build for tiger. I select the orinoco driver (but i've tried the others too), and it just shows can't recognize the card/wrong driver/card not inserted message What puzzles me is that the OS don't recognize it at all itself...... regards, valerio

05-13-2005	#4 (permalink)
Modrak Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6	For me, the IOXperts driver just works but it's not opensource like the wirelessdriver on sourceforge :/ So now, I'm hooked up via ethernet. Anybody knows the reason why the driver doesn't work ? IMHO Changed acess to devices, kernel modules etc.

05-23-2005	#5 (permalink)
Dk0r Posts: n/a	Valernio, What happened? Issue resolved or what?

06-13-2005	#7 (permalink)
wrzwaldo I amuse you? Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,150	@ Modrak, Fantastic cross-post! http://www.netstumbler.org/showpost....47&postcount=8 Help with Tiger / orinoco classic gold (8410-WD)

09-10-2005	#10 (permalink)
hard-mac Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ether.monkey.land Posts: 4	thanks Thanks for the work on the driver. Access to the source would be sweet! Last edited by hard-mac : 09-11-2005 at 12:16 PM.

09-10-2005	#11 (permalink)
loadedsith Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1	I think I should mention for ubernoobs that " chgpr -R wheel /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext" should be "chgrp -R wheel /System/Library/Extensions/WirelessDriver.kext" heh, other then that little typo the whole fix worked for me and id love to see a copy of the source

09-11-2005	#12 (permalink)
hard-mac Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ether.monkey.land Posts: 4	MAC changing with the new driver? Has anyone else the MAC changing working with this driver and method? I am not sure if I should be using the WirelessMAC utility which doesnt seem to do anything!? or editing the patch file with a new MAC address and building a new WirelessDriver.kext for each MAC address? if so - how does the address formatting work exactly? ( %.2X:%.2X:%.2X:%.2X:%.2X:%.2X\n ) People may also be interested in reading Modrak's other post to the WirelessDriver mailing list: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/f...&forum_id=3055 Cheers, Thomas http://members.lycos.co.uk/hardapple/ Last edited by hard-mac : 09-11-2005 at 12:36 PM.

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