Little assistance installing Kismet under "Debian"

beakmyn · 02-15-2005

Ok, it's kinda Debian. It's Damn Small Linux installed to the harddrive.

Background:
PC 266Mhz 160MB ram
Currently running Fedora Core 2 with GPSD, Ethereal, Kismet, KDE, the works.

I'd like something leaner as it takes too long to boot up to the console and then KDE is a hog. Damn Small seemed nice since everything is pretty much good to go out of the box, plus the blackbox WM is already configured and running.

The latest version of DSL has patched Orinoco drivers so no problem there.

I've got apt-get and Synaptic running, but I'm hitting some walls.

Round 1
Modified Sources.list and added unstable and testing
apt-get install ethereal....Good
apt-get install kismet...Good
Well that got me Kismet 2004.04.R1 which is pretty old but it did run and find my AP!

I would like at the least 2004.10.R1 or the new 2005
Is there any way to do it with apt-get?

If you say just download the tar and use it. I tried that and had problems getting a working c compiler. It got as far as the sanity check for the C preprocessor:

Code:

checking how to run the C preprocessor... lib/cpp
configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check

Help would be good. I'm not worried about borking it as it's real easy to start over

streaker69 · 02-15-2005

Sounds like either a sunspot or quantum flux interferance problem. Wrap your entire place in foil and cover the couch in Jello. That should solve it.

Barry · 02-15-2005

Any chance you can use slack??

beakmyn · 02-15-2005

I'll use any distro that is small, lite on the CPU and quicker then FC2 to boot up.

If I remember slack requires a little more effort but I'm up for it if you are. The only reason I'm at FC2 now is Tipsybottle.com had a really good howto and I was tired of waiting for my Stage 1 Gentoo build to finish. Then I saw DSL was a new version so I'd give it a try. I've already got a digital picture frame running DSL.

Once the distro is installed and running I'm guessing the install of Ethereal, Kismet, gpsd is all pretty much the same if working with a tarball?

What version of Slackware do you recommend for a PII 266 with 160mb ram?

I'm not a total noob to linux. I've done RH/Fedora, Gentoo (S1,S2,S3)*, Suse, Mandrake, DamnSmall, Knoppix

*Don't try a Stage 1 on a 100mhz machine the compiler ran for 5 days straight before it finished!

SignalSeeker · 02-15-2005

I have an old 233MMX with 64meg o' RAM that ran Slackware 8 easily. It has since had many different OSes on it since. A few days ago I put the new Slackware 10.1 I think and it took over a minute to boot to CLI. ten another 2 mins into KDE.

I would try Slackware 8ish, should be on there FTP.

Justin

beakmyn · 02-15-2005

I'll get a copy now. I got DSL a little farther turns out the error is because the version of the compiler is different then what was used to compile the kernel. So, I got used a different version of the gcc compiler and not it's whining cause it can't find libcurses.

Maybe I'll try it again later this month.

I see 8 8.1 9 9.1 10 10.1

Barry · 02-15-2005

I'm currently installing 10.1 to my Itronix. It's a cyrix 266 I think, might be a 133... It normally runs comand line only but it runs gnome "okay" xfce4 pretty good. I only use the gui stuff on it for gpsdrive. Everything that doesn't get installed at first is compiled from source, that's the only "package manager" I've ever gotten to work with slack.

beakmyn · 02-16-2005

Well that was pretty painless.
So, I've got a Slackware system running. I installed blackbox and KDE (not sure why). It booted in 45 seconds. Fastest boot I've had so far.

Now, I need to go get some tarballs.

First I have to setup my Orinoco so I can get on the internet. Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find a nice script that will guide me through iwconfig. I may have to pull out my Knoppix and steal it's script or do it manually.

Sadly I'll have to update the Orinoco driver as it's .13d (unpatched). I guess the good news is ifconfig, iwconfig and dmesg all agree on what the card is so the PCMCIA service is running.

From there it should be pretty straight forward.

beakmyn · 02-22-2005

Well I kept fighting slackware and didn't get far so I'm now compiling a 2.6.9 kernel in Debian Woody. Hopefull this will go well and then it's on to gpsd, kismet, the world.

zadoki · 03-03-2005

www.ubuntulinux.org

It's debian with a pretty face and 'new' packages. Debian itself is great but a little too far behind the ball for me.

It defaults to a gnome wm, but I've swapped that out and have been running good old fvwm.

The default install starts up a bunch of unecessary services, but it's not hard to pare everything down to only those bits that you need/want.

Give it a shot!

Barry · 03-03-2005

Ubantoo is pretty nice. The guys here have been playing with xandros. This one has a pretty good wine install. Haven't tried netstumbler on it yet, might have to give that a go when I get home.

beakmyn · 03-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by zadoki

www.ubuntulinux.org

It's debian with a pretty face and 'new' packages. Debian itself is great but a little too far behind the ball for me.

It defaults to a gnome wm, but I've swapped that out and have been running good old fvwm.

The default install starts up a bunch of unecessary services, but it's not hard to pare everything down to only those bits that you need/want.

Give it a shot!

I saw that wasn't sure about it and now I'll try it as my kernel compile is all screwed up as I pulled the plug on the compile and swapped out the harddrive so I could go wardriving

tekn0 · 03-03-2005

not sure if this has been covered but have you tried

root@tekn0:~# apt-get update

Wait untill it updates.
Then Try.

root@tekn0:~# apt-get install kismet

That should do it.

Dutch · 03-03-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by tekn0

not sure if this has been covered but have you tried

root@tekn0:~# apt-get update

Wait untill it updates.
Then Try.

root@tekn0:~# apt-get install kismet

That should do it.

Not if you want the latest version of Kismet.
Woody is currently 3+ releases behind upstream.(v.1.4.2-4)
Sarge is currently 2 releases behind upstream.(v.2004.04.R1-5)
Latest post by the debian kismet maintainer was 5 months ago, where he said he would be uploading the upstream release (at that time v.2004.10.R1) within 14 days. Not happened yet.

So if you want the latest version (v.2005.01.R1) with bugfixes and a capture source for the intel centrino chipset, then you need to roll your own by compiling from source.

Dutch

tekn0 · 03-03-2005

Sorry about that last post i should of red your others before posting a "new to debian" type response. As for your current situation im not really sure of what you can do to fix it. Not to start a switch distros thread but i used to run debian std just for apt-get but now i run slackware 10 and i have never had any problrms installing / compiling anything and now slackware has a version of apt-get that seems to work well. Again not sure if you knew all of that allready but it was just a thought.

02-15-2005	#1 (permalink)
beakmyn root\.workspace\.garbage. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,805	Little assistance installing Kismet under "Debian" Ok, it's kinda Debian. It's Damn Small Linux installed to the harddrive. Background: PC 266Mhz 160MB ram Currently running Fedora Core 2 with GPSD, Ethereal, Kismet, KDE, the works. I'd like something leaner as it takes too long to boot up to the console and then KDE is a hog. Damn Small seemed nice since everything is pretty much good to go out of the box, plus the blackbox WM is already configured and running. The latest version of DSL has patched Orinoco drivers so no problem there. I've got apt-get and Synaptic running, but I'm hitting some walls. Round 1 Modified Sources.list and added unstable and testing apt-get install ethereal....Good apt-get install kismet...Good Well that got me Kismet 2004.04.R1 which is pretty old but it did run and find my AP! I would like at the least 2004.10.R1 or the new 2005 Is there any way to do it with apt-get? If you say just download the tar and use it. I tried that and had problems getting a working c compiler. It got as far as the sanity check for the C preprocessor: Code: checking how to run the C preprocessor... lib/cpp configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check Help would be good. I'm not worried about borking it as it's real easy to start over __________________ Daughter with arms inside shirt: "Daddy I'm not Armish" ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ╞ NS Icons Explained\|et hoc genus omne ╡ └──────────────────────────────┘

02-15-2005	#2 (permalink)
streaker69 Psychic Amish Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA Posts: 11,839	Sounds like either a sunspot or quantum flux interferance problem. Wrap your entire place in foil and cover the couch in Jello. That should solve it. __________________ "One of these days, I'm going to cut you to pieces." If you're offended by this post, please feel free to report it to one of the many helpful moderators of this forum. Thank you.

02-15-2005	#3 (permalink)
Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,383	Any chance you can use slack?? __________________ Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

02-15-2005	#4 (permalink)
beakmyn root\.workspace\.garbage. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,805	I'll use any distro that is small, lite on the CPU and quicker then FC2 to boot up. If I remember slack requires a little more effort but I'm up for it if you are. The only reason I'm at FC2 now is Tipsybottle.com had a really good howto and I was tired of waiting for my Stage 1 Gentoo build to finish. Then I saw DSL was a new version so I'd give it a try. I've already got a digital picture frame running DSL. Once the distro is installed and running I'm guessing the install of Ethereal, Kismet, gpsd is all pretty much the same if working with a tarball? What version of Slackware do you recommend for a PII 266 with 160mb ram? I'm not a total noob to linux. I've done RH/Fedora, Gentoo (S1,S2,S3), Suse, Mandrake, DamnSmall, Knoppix Don't try a Stage 1 on a 100mhz machine the compiler ran for 5 days straight before it finished! __________________ Daughter with arms inside shirt: "Daddy I'm not Armish" ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ╞ NS Icons Explained\|et hoc genus omne ╡ └──────────────────────────────┘

02-15-2005	#6 (permalink)
beakmyn root\.workspace\.garbage. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,805	I'll get a copy now. I got DSL a little farther turns out the error is because the version of the compiler is different then what was used to compile the kernel. So, I got used a different version of the gcc compiler and not it's whining cause it can't find libcurses. Maybe I'll try it again later this month. I see 8 8.1 9 9.1 10 10.1 __________________ Daughter with arms inside shirt: "Daddy I'm not Armish" ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ╞ NS Icons Explained\|et hoc genus omne ╡ └──────────────────────────────┘ Last edited by beakmyn : 02-15-2005 at 05:10 PM.

02-15-2005	#5 (permalink)
SignalSeeker Badger in heat Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 414	I have an old 233MMX with 64meg o' RAM that ran Slackware 8 easily. It has since had many different OSes on it since. A few days ago I put the new Slackware 10.1 I think and it took over a minute to boot to CLI. ten another 2 mins into KDE. I would try Slackware 8ish, should be on there FTP. Justin

02-15-2005	#7 (permalink)
Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,383	I'm currently installing 10.1 to my Itronix. It's a cyrix 266 I think, might be a 133... It normally runs comand line only but it runs gnome "okay" xfce4 pretty good. I only use the gui stuff on it for gpsdrive. Everything that doesn't get installed at first is compiled from source, that's the only "package manager" I've ever gotten to work with slack. __________________ Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

02-16-2005	#8 (permalink)
beakmyn root\.workspace\.garbage. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,805	Well that was pretty painless. So, I've got a Slackware system running. I installed blackbox and KDE (not sure why). It booted in 45 seconds. Fastest boot I've had so far. Now, I need to go get some tarballs. First I have to setup my Orinoco so I can get on the internet. Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to find a nice script that will guide me through iwconfig. I may have to pull out my Knoppix and steal it's script or do it manually. Sadly I'll have to update the Orinoco driver as it's .13d (unpatched). I guess the good news is ifconfig, iwconfig and dmesg all agree on what the card is so the PCMCIA service is running. From there it should be pretty straight forward. __________________ Daughter with arms inside shirt: "Daddy I'm not Armish" ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ╞ NS Icons Explained\|et hoc genus omne ╡ └──────────────────────────────┘

02-22-2005	#9 (permalink)
beakmyn root\.workspace\.garbage. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,805	Well I kept fighting slackware and didn't get far so I'm now compiling a 2.6.9 kernel in Debian Woody. Hopefull this will go well and then it's on to gpsd, kismet, the world. __________________ Daughter with arms inside shirt: "Daddy I'm not Armish" ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ╞ NS Icons Explained\|et hoc genus omne ╡ └──────────────────────────────┘

03-03-2005	#10 (permalink)
zadoki Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2	I've had really good fun with ubuntu linux www.ubuntulinux.org It's debian with a pretty face and 'new' packages. Debian itself is great but a little too far behind the ball for me. It defaults to a gnome wm, but I've swapped that out and have been running good old fvwm. The default install starts up a bunch of unecessary services, but it's not hard to pare everything down to only those bits that you need/want. Give it a shot!

03-03-2005	#11 (permalink)
Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,383	Ubantoo is pretty nice. The guys here have been playing with xandros. This one has a pretty good wine install. Haven't tried netstumbler on it yet, might have to give that a go when I get home. __________________ Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

03-03-2005	#13 (permalink)
tekn0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 36	not sure if this has been covered but have you tried root@tekn0:~# apt-get update Wait untill it updates. Then Try. root@tekn0:~# apt-get install kismet That should do it.

03-03-2005	#15 (permalink)
tekn0 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 36	Sorry about that last post i should of red your others before posting a "new to debian" type response. As for your current situation im not really sure of what you can do to fix it. Not to start a switch distros thread but i used to run debian std just for apt-get but now i run slackware 10 and i have never had any problrms installing / compiling anything and now slackware has a version of apt-get that seems to work well. Again not sure if you knew all of that allready but it was just a thought. Last edited by tekn0 : 03-03-2005 at 11:30 PM.

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