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Old 01-31-2006   #121 (permalink)
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Have'nt tried, however there's no reason for it not to work. You won't be able to use any cards locally, however using the WRT54G as a drone should work.

The only reason you might want to use Kiswin or Cygwin is that the overhead will be much lower than running a full vmware image.

Thanks. I will let you know how it turns out once I get it fully working. Have decided to do it with Windows Cygwin first and then try the VMWare with Auditor or Whax distro's running from the hard drive.

Right now I am fighting an issue with the kismet_drone process stopping immediately after starting without error. Used the version 0.3 guide for Windows install and version 3.3 of the WRT54G How To. Both the S60kismet_drone and S70JW_scan are installed in /etc/init.d (were put there by your auto-drone.sh script. Neither process appears to run automatically when I reboot. Also the documentation says to telnet into the WRT54G but since installing White Russian RC4, I am only able to ssh as root into the device. This does not bother me as I prefer to use ssh over telnet anyway.

Anyway, once I get the above two working I plan on seeing if I can get it to work with KisMAC.
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Thanks. I will let you know how it turns out once I get it fully working. Have decided to do it with Windows Cygwin first and then try the VMWare with Auditor or Whax distro's running from the hard drive.

Right now I am fighting an issue with the kismet_drone process stopping immediately after starting without error. Used the version 0.3 guide for Windows install and version 3.3 of the WRT54G How To. Both the S60kismet_drone and S70JW_scan are installed in /etc/init.d (were put there by your auto-drone.sh script. Neither process appears to run automatically when I reboot. Also the documentation says to telnet into the WRT54G but since installing White Russian RC4, I am only able to ssh as root into the device. This does not bother me as I prefer to use ssh over telnet anyway.

Anyway, once I get the above two working I plan on seeing if I can get it to work with KisMAC.
Yeah, if you set a password, telnet gets disabled and ssh is you only option. I plan on adding that to the guide, but I'm lazy

make sure that both scripts are executable and that the kismet_drone and kismet.conf files files got put into place. if everything looks ok, relaod the router and follow the manual method, tha autodrone.sh script is still experimental outside of my lab.

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Yeah, if you set a password, telnet gets disabled and ssh is you only option. I plan on adding that to the guide, but I'm lazy

make sure that both scripts are executable and that the kismet_drone and kismet.conf files files got put into place. if everything looks ok, relaod the router and follow the manual method, tha autodrone.sh script is still experimental outside of my lab.

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That's why I use Putty now and scp for file copies. Banged my head against the wall for 15 minutes on that one.
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That's why I use Putty now and scp for file copies. Banged my head against the wall for 15 minutes on that one.
I think a lot of us have. It is mentioned somewhere, although I forget if it's deep in the White Russian RC4 README, or somewhere on a website.
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I think a lot of us have. It is mentioned somewhere, although I forget if it's deep in the White Russian RC4 README, or somewhere on a website.
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Why no telnet password?
Telnet is an insecure protocol with no encryption, we try to make a point of this insecurity by not enabling a password. If you're in an environment that requires password protection we suggest setting a password with the passwd command, which will disable the telnet server and enable the Dropbear SSH server.
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That's it!

Once you realize it, using ssh or PuTTY is simple enough. It was just that inital sinking feeling of "Uh oh, I've just locked myself out of the damned thing."
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Yep.. It's allways good to RTFM/D/W, before doing anything.
Just like in the old punchtape days. It's only after we got the GUI in the form of MacOS and Windows 3.x/9x/NT/XP/2Kx, that people appearently forgot that skill : Read documentation, before using system.



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Yep.. It's allways good to RTFM/D/W, before doing anything.
Just like in the old punchtape days. It's only after we got the GUI in the form of MacOS and Windows 3.x/9x/NT/XP/2Kx, that people appearently forgot that skill : Read documentation, before using system.



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Yep.. It's allways good to RTFM/D/W, before doing anything.
Just like in the old punchtape days. It's only after we got the GUI in the form of MacOS and Windows 3.x/9x/NT/XP/2Kx, that people appearently forgot that skill : Read documentation, before using system.



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Oh, I'll be the first to admit it: I will typically read the docs in a quick once-over to get me started, and then go back read more once I'm up and running, so I can work out the rest of the details. Most of the time it works for me, as the READMEs tend to make more sense when I have something in front of me to play with. Occationally though, a crucial detail slips by and the pucker factor rises for a few minutes (like this.) When things do go tits up, I go back to reading the docs and Googling. Occationally, when I am completely flummoxed I'll even stoop so low as to ask trusted friends to point me in the right direction.

Speaking of which: Dutch, one of the high points at shmoo was dragorn pointing out the guy who posted on the kismet forums: "Tell me how to run kismet. Do not tell me to read the README."
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Don't laugh. Those WERE my first programs. I can still read those things.
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Occationally, when I am completely flummoxed I'll even stoop so low as to ask trusted friends to point me in the right direction.
Wow.. So now I know the truth : You are flummoxed (is that really an adjective ?), when you IM me ? We want a picture of that...
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Speaking of which: Dutch, one of the high points at shmoo was dragorn pointing out the guy who posted on the kismet forums: "Tell me how to run kismet. Do not tell me to read the README."
I seem to recall a couple of those threads on the kismetwireless forums, that I participated in.. People wanting a spoonfeed seem to proliferate in the WiFi world *sigh*.

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Wow.. So now I know the truth : You are flummoxed (is that really an adjective ?), when you IM me ? We want a picture of that...

I seem to recall a couple of those threads on the kismetwireless forums, that I participated in.. People wanting a spoonfeed seem to proliferate in the WiFi world *sigh*.

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Yup, it's a real adjective in English.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=flummoxed

As far a a picture of it, it's just me with a stupid expression. In other words, the usual. Sort of like this:
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That is an old one.. as I recall the ones I worked with had at least the card sequence and translation printed across the top.
I'd hate to drop a deck of those.

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That is an old one.. as I recall the ones I worked with had at least the card sequence and translation printed acess the top.
I'd hate to drop a deck of those.

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Welcome back! I'm guessing you were off on one of those exotic T&A vacations?
Having seen the face on a cardpunch operator after somebody turned over the card-cart, I do not wish for the old days to return..

Sorry, no T&A vacation, unless that covers being fed by an IV tube, and put on a ventilator. Doublesided pneumonia sucks big time, compared to being at ShmooCon.
And yeah, I missed you all, and thanks for NOT sending flowers this time. Not sure the XYL would believe it was guys sending them this time as well

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