ZipSlack + XP

The Others · 09-17-2002

Hi, in an attempt to make my own small wardriving linux install I decided to give ZipSlack a go. I've used this before on my old win98 machine and could boot into it perfectly. I read that XP requires a boot disk in order to enter ZipSlack. I downloaded the bootdisk.img and created a bootdisk. With my win 98 machine, putting boot disks in the A: drive would make my PC boot from the disk.

However, winXP refuses to and will load windows regardless.

So, tow questions...

1) am I right to assume that the boot.ini file is only for loading different versions of windows and not what I am looking for?

2) how do i get my laptop to boot from the A:? Is it through windows or bios?

TIA

Thunderforge · 09-17-2002

BIOS. There should be an entry for Boot Order or something similar. Try "A:, CD, C:" if it has the option. That way it will check the floppy, then CD and then finally the hard drive.

One note: Once you make this change you will have to make sure there is no floppy in the system when booting into Windows or it will hang on a non-bootable floppy (if it does pop-out the floppy and hit any key to 'continue'). You may be familiar with this, but wanted to mention it to provide as complete an answer as I could.

What system do you have?

bufh · 09-17-2002

With XP you can format a floppy disk and make it a bootable DOS disk.[place floppy in drive A, right click, select format, and one of the options allows the selection....]

The bootdisk from slackware site is only to boot and start the install process.

The boodisk from the MS site is only to start the install process for XP.

You may also want to check the boot order in the bios.... [I know I usually set the ones I setup to boot from the harddisk first; speeds bootup process a little, and is a very basic anti-virus prevention method {if you accidentally start the machine with an infected floppy])

The Others · 09-17-2002

Quote:

With XP you can format a floppy disk and make it a bootable DOS disk.[place floppy in drive A, right click, select format, and one of the options allows the selection....]

Is this DOS pure 386/486 or V86 mode? (See attached picture of trying to load linux from the command prompt.

Quote:

BIOS. There should be an entry for Boot Order or something similar. Try "A:, CD, C:" if it has the option. That way it will check the floppy, then CD and then finally the hard drive.

Anyone know a generic way of doing this? I know most pc's display an output on boot before the OS loads but mine doesn't. It just displays the manufacturers logo.

Thanks for your help.

The Others · 09-17-2002

Oops, in all the excitment I forgot the picture...

Here it is:

Thunderforge · 09-17-2002

What make and model is your machine?

sykojester · 09-17-2002

theothers. to get around the manufactures logo. it depends on the who makes ur laptop. almost all that info is in the BIOS though. i have an older hp laptop. i fergot what they 'called' the option, but it kinda sticks out, like 'show post' or 'fast boot'...everyones different though. i hated that damn hp logo...i just wanted to see it 'POST'.

The Others · 09-17-2002

D'oh I did the classic newbie "Please sort my problem, no, I wont tell you what my problem is".

Sorry guys, I've got a Samsung VM8000 rebadged an "RM" VM8000. At boot I get a lovely

RM

Thunderforge · 09-17-2002

Turn on the unit and hold down the DELETE key until the System Setup screen appears.

Under the "Advanced CMOS Setup".

Set 1st Boot Device to Floppy
Set 2nd Boot Device to CDROM
Set 3rd Boot Device to Hard Drive

That should do it.

The Others · 09-17-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Thunderforge
Turn on the unit and hold down the DELETE key until the System Setup screen appears.

Under the "Advanced CMOS Setup".

Set 1st Boot Device to Floppy
Set 2nd Boot Device to CDROM
Set 3rd Boot Device to Hard Drive

That should do it.

Thank you very much. I'll give it a go now.

After trying ------->

Yep, thanks it worked perfectly. Wow, that was the first time I'd ever thought "I wish my laptop came with instructions". Now all i need to do is get it working in a wardriving frame of mind. Time to start reading i think. If any ZipSlack users want to PM me I'd love to hear from you. Thanks, The Others

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	ZipSlack + XP Hi, in an attempt to make my own small wardriving linux install I decided to give ZipSlack a go. I've used this before on my old win98 machine and could boot into it perfectly. I read that XP requires a boot disk in order to enter ZipSlack. I downloaded the bootdisk.img and created a bootdisk. With my win 98 machine, putting boot disks in the A: drive would make my PC boot from the disk. However, winXP refuses to and will load windows regardless. So, tow questions... 1) am I right to assume that the boot.ini file is only for loading different versions of windows and not what I am looking for? 2) how do i get my laptop to boot from the A:? Is it through windows or bios? TIA __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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Thunderforge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 342	BIOS. There should be an entry for Boot Order or something similar. Try "A:, CD, C:" if it has the option. That way it will check the floppy, then CD and then finally the hard drive. One note: Once you make this change you will have to make sure there is no floppy in the system when booting into Windows or it will hang on a non-bootable floppy (if it does pop-out the floppy and hit any key to 'continue'). You may be familiar with this, but wanted to mention it to provide as complete an answer as I could. What system do you have? __________________ Back to the forge, TF Last edited by Thunderforge : 09-17-2002 at 06:23 AM.

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Thunderforge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 342	What make and model is your machine? __________________ Back to the forge, TF

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sykojester Net Lurker - phjear Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 371	theothers. to get around the manufactures logo. it depends on the who makes ur laptop. almost all that info is in the BIOS though. i have an older hp laptop. i fergot what they 'called' the option, but it kinda sticks out, like 'show post' or 'fast boot'...everyones different though. i hated that damn hp logo...i just wanted to see it 'POST'. __________________ I was at this place one time & I was like...Wow.

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	D'oh I did the classic newbie "Please sort my problem, no, I wont tell you what my problem is". Sorry guys, I've got a Samsung VM8000 rebadged an "RM" VM8000. At boot I get a lovely RM __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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bufh Fallen and wont get up... Join Date: May 2002 Location: SoCal (LA), USA Posts: 34	With XP you can format a floppy disk and make it a bootable DOS disk.[place floppy in drive A, right click, select format, and one of the options allows the selection....] The bootdisk from slackware site is only to boot and start the install process. The boodisk from the MS site is only to start the install process for XP. You may also want to check the boot order in the bios.... [I know I usually set the ones I setup to boot from the harddisk first; speeds bootup process a little, and is a very basic anti-virus prevention method {if you accidentally start the machine with an infected floppy])

09-17-2002	#9 (permalink)
Thunderforge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 342	Turn on the unit and hold down the DELETE key until the System Setup screen appears. Under the "Advanced CMOS Setup". Set 1st Boot Device to Floppy Set 2nd Boot Device to CDROM Set 3rd Boot Device to Hard Drive That should do it. __________________ Back to the forge, TF

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