Block certain SSID? Possible?

pacini · 04-24-2005

Hi,
I'm getting annoyed by someone trying to intrude my locations with his SSID, (he gets a close by location and shoot his signal inside my locations), now, is there a way to block him out? or maybe another idea of making his signal weak or useless to clients?

Thanks

dgstinner · 04-24-2005

Could you please explain yourself better? What you said made no sense to me. An SSID is broadcast by a router/access point. The way you're describing things, it sounds like people are driving/walking passed you with access points and I know that can't be the case.

pacini · 04-24-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgstinner

Could you please explain yourself better? What you said made no sense to me. An SSID is broadcast by a router/access point. The way you're describing things, it sounds like people are driving/walking passed you with access points and I know that can't be the case.

Alright,
What is happening is that I own a few coffeeshops and I operate my own WiFi. What is happening now is that I got someone targetting my business with his WiFi signals (Same SSID on my locations), and it's annoying me.

Thorn · 04-24-2005

No, there's no way to block his signal. He might be civilly and criminally liable however, if he is doing to so steal or otherwise defraud clients from you.

There are several ways that you can mitigate it the impact, depending on how you want to go about it, and how much you are willing to spend. Things like closed portals utilizing SSL can be very effectlive.

Thorn · 04-24-2005

Move to the HotSpots Forum as the NetStumbler Forum was inappropriate.

wrzwaldo · 04-24-2005

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Originally Posted by dgstinner

Could you please explain yourself better? What you said made no sense to me. An SSID is broadcast by a router/access point. The way you're describing things, it sounds like people are driving/walking passed you with access points and I know that can't be the case.

I wouldn't be to sure about that. Myself and a couple others here have been known to toss a spare AP in the car when we are out and about.

pacini · 04-24-2005

Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?

nashr · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by pacini

Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?

Now I'm confused. At first I thought someone was using the same SSID that you use for your hotspots, thus confusing or causing problems for your customers.

Now it sounds like you want to set up a dummy AP with HIS SSID? So, I have some questions:

1) Is this problem being caused by another access point with the same SSID at your hotspots?

2) If not, please clarify the problem.

Thanks!

wrzwaldo · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Your opening post...

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I'm getting annoyed by someone trying to intrude my locations with his SSID...

Then you said...

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Originally Posted by You Again

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What is happening now is that I got someone targetting my business with his WiFi signals (Same SSID on my locations), and it's annoying me.

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Now you want to...

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Originally Posted by pacini

Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?

Now if he/she/it has the same SSID and you block it won't that hose things up at your area as well? I mean you both have the SAME SSID right?

What's that horrible smell?

nashr · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by pacini

Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?

Ah, and now you want to do to HIM what you say he's doing to YOU!!!???

Let the backpeddling begin.....

The Others · 04-25-2005

A similar situation some time back:

http://netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=10892

I stand by my post in that thread.

Dutch · 04-25-2005

These solutions will help in this case.

The cheap : Do search for WiFiSpray and purchase enough of that for your establishments. Then proceed to cover the walls in your establishment with at least two layers of WiFiSpray. That should keep your radiosignals inside, and their radiosignals outside.

The expensive : Purchase enough copperwiring (3 gauge minimum) to build a faraday cage in your coffeshops. If you are creative enough, you might even make it a part of the decor. Give out free tinfoil caps to all customers, and I'm sure the free marketing value from newspapers and TV stations telling about it, will cover the initial cost. of preventing other peoples LEGAL radio signals from intruding into your establishments.

Dutch

streaker69 · 04-25-2005

Is it just me, or does this sound like a cat fight between two businesses that are in direct competition of one another?

wrzwaldo · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by streaker69

Is it just me, or does this sound like a cat fight between two businesses that are in direct competition of one another?

Yes! And I'd be willing to bet this guy is bleeding from the rectum!

fregniacciaro · 04-25-2005

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Originally Posted by Dutch

These solutions will help in this case.

The cheap : Do search for WiFiSpray and purchase enough of that for your establishments. Then proceed to cover the walls in your establishment with at least two layers of WiFiSpray. That should keep your radiosignals inside, and their radiosignals outside.

The expensive : Purchase enough copperwiring (3 gauge minimum) to build a faraday cage in your coffeshops. If you are creative enough, you might even make it a part of the decor. Give out free tinfoil caps to all customers, and I'm sure the free marketing value from newspapers and TV stations telling about it, will cover the initial cost. of preventing other peoples LEGAL radio signals from intruding into your establishments.

Dutch

This one is available... (barely work safe)

04-24-2005	#1 (permalink)
pacini Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10	Block certain SSID? Possible? Hi, I'm getting annoyed by someone trying to intrude my locations with his SSID, (he gets a close by location and shoot his signal inside my locations), now, is there a way to block him out? or maybe another idea of making his signal weak or useless to clients? Thanks

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dgstinner Wardriver in Jersey Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 99	Could you please explain yourself better? What you said made no sense to me. An SSID is broadcast by a router/access point. The way you're describing things, it sounds like people are driving/walking passed you with access points and I know that can't be the case. __________________ Stats for user DGStinner: Total New Discovered Networks with GPS: 10,122 All Networks Recorded: 11,553

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Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,002	No, there's no way to block his signal. He might be civilly and criminally liable however, if he is doing to so steal or otherwise defraud clients from you. There are several ways that you can mitigate it the impact, depending on how you want to go about it, and how much you are willing to spend. Things like closed portals utilizing SSL can be very effectlive. __________________ Thorn Sex and Violence. You can't enjoy one, if you don't survive the other. (And that works both ways...)

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Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,002	Move to the HotSpots Forum as the NetStumbler Forum was inappropriate. __________________ Thorn Sex and Violence. You can't enjoy one, if you don't survive the other. (And that works both ways...)

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	A similar situation some time back: http://netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=10892 I stand by my post in that thread. __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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pacini Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10	Thorn, Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?

04-25-2005	#12 (permalink)
Dutch Humourless EuroMod. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: City of Mermaids, Denmark Posts: 6,813	These solutions will help in this case. The cheap : Do search for WiFiSpray and purchase enough of that for your establishments. Then proceed to cover the walls in your establishment with at least two layers of WiFiSpray. That should keep your radiosignals inside, and their radiosignals outside. The expensive : Purchase enough copperwiring (3 gauge minimum) to build a faraday cage in your coffeshops. If you are creative enough, you might even make it a part of the decor. Give out free tinfoil caps to all customers, and I'm sure the free marketing value from newspapers and TV stations telling about it, will cover the initial cost. of preventing other peoples LEGAL radio signals from intruding into your establishments. Dutch __________________ All your answers are belong to Google. SEARCH DAMMIT! Warning. Warning. Low C8H10N4O2 level detected. Operator halted....

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streaker69 Psychic Amish Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA Posts: 11,644	Is it just me, or does this sound like a cat fight between two businesses that are in direct competition of one another? __________________ "One of these days, I'm going to cut you to pieces." If you're offended by this post, please feel free to report it to one of the many helpful moderators of this forum. Thank you.

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