I need some help for networking guys. WiFi questions

jeostang · 11-11-2004

I need some help for networking guys. WiFi questions

I'm setting up a hotspot in a local hotel cafe, which won't support more then 20 users at a time.

I have the AP, switch, and router. I'm connecting the switch to the existing wired network. How do I secure the wired network from the wireless? Will using the AP be enough if I set it up to use WPA? What I'm thinking is that any one that doesn't have rights to access the AP can't get to the wired network. This has me wondering about the ones that do have rights to connect the the AP. Can I just put a router between the AP and the switch to keep users off of wired network resources? Or is there a better way?

Thorn · 11-11-2004

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Originally Posted by jeostang

I need some help for networking guys. WiFi questions

I'm setting up a hotspot in a local hotel cafe, which won't support more then 20 users at a time. ...

First, please pay attention to where you are posting. You started this thread is NetStumbler.org WiFi Forums > NetStumbler Community > NetStumbler. Your question has nothing to do with NetStumbler, and is about setting up a Hotspot, so it's been moved to that forum.

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Originally Posted by jeostang

I have the AP, switch, and router. I'm connecting the switch to the existing wired network. How do I secure the wired network from the wireless?

Your questions show a real lack of concept about the basics of wireless, networks, and security. You may need to get some help.

You should seperate the two networks, by another router at a minimum. Better yet, use a gateway unit to properly seperate the two segements.

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Originally Posted by jeostang

Will using the AP be enough if I set it up to use WPA? What I'm thinking is that any one that doesn't have rights to access the AP can't get to the wired network. This has me wondering about the ones that do have rights to connect the the AP.

Either they have access to the wireless or they don't. WPA is to keep unauthorized people from using the network. Authorized users can connect to the AP.

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Originally Posted by jeostang

Can I just put a router between the AP and the switch to keep users off of wired network resources? Or is there a better way?

See above.

LiquidEdge · 11-14-2004

Yeah, you need an additional router to seperate the networks. So it'll go from your DSL connection to the two routers. One router for customers, one for your internal network. That'll solve the problem on the rest of your questions.

I wouldn't use WPA if you want it open, not everyone will be able to connect because people still have older cards that don't support WPA.

--Rick Dobbs

Madhadder · 11-19-2004

Unless you get some cisco gear, then you can do VLAN's and Multiple
SSID's on the AP's for the Different Networks

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jeostang Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1	I need some help for networking guys. WiFi questions I need some help for networking guys. WiFi questions I'm setting up a hotspot in a local hotel cafe, which won't support more then 20 users at a time. I have the AP, switch, and router. I'm connecting the switch to the existing wired network. How do I secure the wired network from the wireless? Will using the AP be enough if I set it up to use WPA? What I'm thinking is that any one that doesn't have rights to access the AP can't get to the wired network. This has me wondering about the ones that do have rights to connect the the AP. Can I just put a router between the AP and the switch to keep users off of wired network resources? Or is there a better way?

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LiquidEdge Keeper of the Cheese Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 29	Yeah, you need an additional router to seperate the networks. So it'll go from your DSL connection to the two routers. One router for customers, one for your internal network. That'll solve the problem on the rest of your questions. I wouldn't use WPA if you want it open, not everyone will be able to connect because people still have older cards that don't support WPA. --Rick Dobbs