injection-immune hotspots

Aggabee · 11-29-2006

So I've recently "stumbled" upon a bunch of new Actiontec hotspots that seem to be completely immune to packet injection. Even with an established client they do not accept injected packets of any kind. Either they reject ARP packets without prior traffic (even on open-authentication) or they reject packets with the same IV. Its kind of wierd that they are still putting effort into securing WEP instead of just switching over to WPA.

streaker69 · 11-29-2006

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Originally Posted by Aggabee

So I've recently "stumbled" upon a bunch of new Actiontec hotspots that seem to be completely immune to packet injection. Even with an established client they do not accept injected packets of any kind. Either they reject ARP packets without prior traffic (even on open-authentication) or they reject packets with the same IV. Its kind of wierd that they are still putting effort into securing WEP instead of just switching over to WPA.

So, in other words, you've just admitted to attacking public Hotspots in a public forum frequented by LEO's and TLA's?

Way to go whackjob.

Monitr7 · 11-29-2006

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Originally Posted by Aggabee

So I've recently "stumbled" upon a bunch of new Actiontec hotspots that seem to be completely immune to packet injection.

So you say you "stumbled" upon them, eh? EEEEEH? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, knowwhatimean, saynomore?

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Originally Posted by Aggabee

Its kind of wierd that they are still putting effort into securing WEP instead of just switching over to WPA.

Kinda "weird", eh? "Weird"? Knowwhatimean? So, uh, you been messing around with it, eh? "Injecting"? Right, right, say no MORE!

The Others · 11-29-2006

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So you say you "stumbled" upon them, eh? EEEEEH? Nudge, nudge, wink, wink, knowwhatimean, saynomore?

...

Kinda "weird", eh? "Weird"? Knowwhatimean? Eh? EEEEEEH? So, uh, you been messing around with it, eh? "Injecting"? Right, right, say no MORE!

Tip of the hat guvnor, say no more. Down the docks to see a man about a dog, know what I mean?

Monitr7 · 11-29-2006

A nod's as good as a wink to a blind man, knowwhatimean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink?

Your wife; she's a goer, eh? Woah. Wooooaah!

The Others · 11-29-2006

Gary lager! £20 saved is £20 earned. Trouble and strife with the old bread knife, know what I mean?

Thorn · 11-29-2006

Well now that you two are on speaking terms again, can we expect another show? And who has custody of Tony?

The Others · 11-29-2006

I'm going international tomorrow, but will back next week. We could always look into an amicable agreement regarding my appearance on a show at that point. As long as there's a victi, I mean guest, of course.

As for Tony, M7 still has him. I hope...

Aggabee · 11-29-2006

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Originally Posted by streaker69

So, in other words, you've just admitted to attacking public Hotspots in a public forum frequented by LEO's and TLA's?

three letter acronyms?

brwrdrvr · 11-29-2006

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Originally Posted by Aggabee

three letter acronyms?

Yea, try searching them out. Call them up and tell them what you did. See if they have an answer for you.

Thorn · 11-29-2006

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Originally Posted by Aggabee

three letter acronyms?

Law Enforcement Officers and Three Letter A]gencies. (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.) There are a fair amount of the regulars here who qualify under one or the other classification.

You might want to read this notice.

In other words, you might want to smarten up before posting again, Bunky.

brwrdrvr · 11-29-2006

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Originally Posted by Thorn

Law Enforcement Officers and Three Letter A]gencies. (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc.) There are a fair amount of the regulars here who qualify under one or the other classification.

You might want to read this notice.

In other words, you might want to smarten up before posting again, Bunky.

I thought the OP's name was Corky?

Airstreamer · 11-29-2006

Hey TO --> What ever happened to that camera?

Aggabee · 11-29-2006

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Originally Posted by brwrdrvr

Call them up and tell them what you did.

What did I do? I attempted to inject packets into a network and failed. I found out that WEP security may actually be better than it once was thought to be. And I thought that you guys, being the network security enthusiasts that you are, and considering that this entire site is DEDICATED TO WIRELESS SECURITY, might want to know. But I guess you guys are more interested in covering your own asses than learning something new.

Thorn · 11-29-2006

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What did I do? I attempted to inject packets into a network and failed.

It appears from what you are saying that you attempted to do this on someone else's network, which is illegal.

Feel free to correct this impression if it's wrong.

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Originally Posted by Aggabee

I found out that WEP security may actually be better than it once was thought to be.

That remains to be seen. You failed at an attempt to break into a WLAN. Period.

Your failure may be due to several factors. If you where doing this on a network you owned and/or controlled, then those factors would be known. As it is, it could be several different things from your conclusion (an AP which resists packet injection) ranging to your own incompetence. As it is the factors are either unknown, or unstated by you.

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And I thought that you guys, being the network security enthusiasts that you are, and considering that this entire site is DEDICATED TO WIRELESS SECURITY, might want to know. But I guess you guys are more interested in covering your own asses than learning something new.

It isn't a question about "covering our asses", it is a question about promoting illegal activities.

We are very interested in learning about new or unknown vulnerabilities, but it has to be done properly and ethically. That means doing things under controlled conditions on WLANs that we own or at least have permission to access and experiment on. It doesn't mean going out and committing crimes as part of the experimentation.

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Aggabee Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3	injection-immune hotspots So I've recently "stumbled" upon a bunch of new Actiontec hotspots that seem to be completely immune to packet injection. Even with an established client they do not accept injected packets of any kind. Either they reject ARP packets without prior traffic (even on open-authentication) or they reject packets with the same IV. Its kind of wierd that they are still putting effort into securing WEP instead of just switching over to WPA.

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Monitr7 Not feeling funny... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rebrandsoftware's mom's house... Posts: 1,699	A nod's as good as a wink to a blind man, knowwhatimean, nudge, nudge, wink, wink? Your wife; she's a goer, eh? Woah. Wooooaah! __________________ WTOTD Industries - Where quality is Job #3. G8tK33per doesn't care about the tarded people! -Kanye West Last edited by Monitr7 : 11-29-2006 at 06:42 AM.

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	Gary lager! £20 saved is £20 earned. Trouble and strife with the old bread knife, know what I mean? __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,008	Well now that you two are on speaking terms again, can we expect another show? And who has custody of Tony? __________________ Thorn Sex and Violence. You can't enjoy one, if you don't survive the other. (And that works both ways...)

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	I'm going international tomorrow, but will back next week. We could always look into an amicable agreement regarding my appearance on a show at that point. As long as there's a victi, I mean guest, of course. As for Tony, M7 still has him. I hope... __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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Airstreamer Sniffin' the aether Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: A little North of Reason Posts: 2,710	Hey TO --> What ever happened to that camera? __________________ "Wait just a minute, now. Whaddya mean, you DON'T use Regedit to send email?"

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