Panera Bread

Gonarat · 01-20-2004

I'll kick this forum topic off. Our local Panera bread (Breckenridge and Dutchmans Lane, Louisville KY) has free 802.11b access now. SSID id is PANERA. They have a nice pamphlet that explains how to set up and connect along with an 866 number to call for help if you totally get stuck. VPN is supported!

I haven't used it yet, but I picked up a pamphlet for future use. It looks like it has been well thought out and is being rolled out to many of their restaurants. Their website ( Panera Bread WIFI ) shows current locations.

Bill

King_Ice_Flash · 01-20-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Gonarat
I'll kick this forum topic off. Our local Panera bread (Breckenridge and Dutchmans Lane, Louisville KY) has free 802.11b access now. SSID id is PANERA. They have a nice pamphlet that explains how to set up and connect along with an 866 number to call for help if you totally get stuck. VPN is supported!

I haven't used it yet, but I picked up a pamphlet for future use. It looks like it has been well thought out and is being rolled out to many of their restaurants. Their website ( Panera Bread WIFI ) shows current locations.

Bill

They will get a lot of good advertisment out of it though, because people will post that on the Internet and several thousand people will see it.

Novilio · 01-23-2004

Well, I went to the new Panera at Southgate here in Colorado Springs this past Monday. They had a sign in the window that read, "Free Wi-Fi!" and I had my laptop in my briefcase. However, when I ordered my toasted cinnamon-crunch bagel, as I asked the nice lady if the free Wi-Fi was working yet.

"I don't think so. Now, what is that again?"

I explained it to her and she said she'd never heard of it before. I shrugged, took my bagel, and grabbed a table. Cracked open the X21 and...nothing. Oh, well. Probably still getting the bugs out of it.

Then it hit me: Whoops! I had all networking protocols disabled after Saturday's wardrive. So I re-enabled TCP/IP and rebooted. As soon as I did, it autoconnected, showed me a policy screen, and I was in. Wasn't super fast--DSLReports tagged it as 800 Kbps downlink--but fast enough to be useful.

I was impressed enough to move our Delphi Meetup to Panera from Pike's Perk downtown, which has wireless but it costs.

The two new Paneras in the Springs both have free Wi-Fi, as does an older one in Niles, Illinois, where my mother-in-law lives. It looks like they are rolling out free hotspots in as many of their stores as they can. If there's a Panera anywhere near you, a quick wardrive past the front door should tell you--and you can legally connect to this one!

--73--

--Novilio

Starpoint · 01-25-2004

My very first hotspot I noticed was on hwy 249 in Houston, at Fallbrooke.

its a DairyQueen of all places... wide open and its on even when they are closed.

ThreePts · 01-25-2004

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Originally posted by Starpoint
My very first hotspot I noticed was on hwy 249 in Houston, at Fallbrooke.

its a DairyQueen of all places... wide open and its on even when they are closed.

Who would imagine free access at a dairy queen. Thats great.

blboyd · 01-26-2004

That Dairy Queen is right down the down from my apt. Might have to swing by...

Brandon

decoy5657 · 02-09-2004

<-- I also live in Louisville, I'm trying to get together a list of palces offering LEGIT free wifi :-)

Any other places?! great find at panera, never would have thought of that...

Novilio · 02-09-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by decoy5657
<-- I also live in Louisville, I'm trying to get together a list of palces offering LEGIT free wifi :-)

Any other places?! great find at panera, never would have thought of that...

Schlotzky's Deli is one place to check--they're rolling out their free hotspot program little by little. We really really need what I call "SSIDChalking"; that is, embedding a standard tag in a free/open hotspot's SSID to indicate its legal status. The obvious one would be something like this:

[[ )( ]] Porky Perk Coffee House

If Porky's decided to charge for the service, the tag might look like this:

[[ )( $ ]] Porky Perk Coffee House

The symbols should be enclosed in some kind of frame (I used double brackets here as a simple example) to make parsing by utilities easier.

I talked about this in my book, and it's so obvious a thing I'm surprised it hasn't come up in discussion about the industry. Connecting to the wrong AP is a serious problem in an industry that combines non-technical people with idiots who don't turn on WEP. Ideally, our client adapters should be able to tell by inspection whether a hotspot is legal for us to connect to. It shouldn't be left completely to the judgment of the user, as it is now, or to completely dumb clients that will gleefully connect to whatever signal is strongest at its antennas.

--73--

--Novilio

King_Ice_Flash · 02-09-2004

Set the SSID to something like "company Name, Free internet access" Or...

Gonarat · 02-11-2004

Quote:

<-- I also live in Louisville, I'm trying to get together a list of palces offering LEGIT free wifi :-)

Decoy - the only places I know of right now (based off of personal experience and internet searches) are :

Highland Coffee Co - 1140 C Bardstown Rd

Ermin's French Bakery and Cafe - location in the Heyburn Building at Fourth Street and Broadway

The Brown, A Camberley Hotel - 335 West Broadway

Panera Bread Co - Mall of St. Matthews - 5000 Shelbyville Road

Panera Bread Co - 6221 Dutchman Lane

The Airport and several Hotels also have WIFI, but they are all (at this time) pay access.

Bill

Nico3k · 02-16-2004

all the panera's around here have AP's too! even though they use the local DSL provider, its still a nice resource for when you need internet.

decoy5657 · 02-16-2004

Both of the Heine Brothers coffee shops have free wifi...

KGB · 02-24-2004

Around the Dayton/Xenia/Fairborn/Springfield Ohio area are some good hotspots.There is a Buffalo Wild Wings in Huber Hts.off I-70 and SR 202 that has access,and another one in Beavercreek off I-675 and N.Fairfield Rd.There is also a Panera Bread near downtown Dayton that has access.I am hoping the Panera in Beavercreek(same exit) will have it soon as well.Also,most Flying J truckstops have access too.They charge I believe $4.95 a day for access,but they have it.It is run by TON services(a company they are in with) and is pretty good from what I hear.There are other spots as well,but I don't remember them offhand.You can go to www.jiwire.com or www.wififreeaccess.com and look them up.The ones I have placed here are ok spots as far as signal,etc.Have a great day and happy hunting.

sysadmn · 03-04-2005

Hey, I'm just down the road in Mason, OH. Check it out at WIGLE

To return to the thread, has anyone actually gotten VPN to work at Panera? I'm here, and their help desk isn't open.
I'm trying to use Cisco's VPN client (IPSEC, Port 443?) into work. It can't establish a connection to either of our three servers - which worked fine from home a half hour ago.

BTW, they're running SonicWall firewall with content filtering enabled. No Fark for this bad boy - just like at work

nashr · 03-04-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Novilio

Schlotzky's Deli is one place to check--they're rolling out their free hotspot program little by little. We really really need what I call "SSIDChalking"; that is, embedding a standard tag in a free/open hotspot's SSID to indicate its legal status. The obvious one would be something like this:

[[ )( ]] Porky Perk Coffee House

If Porky's decided to charge for the service, the tag might look like this:

[[ )( $ ]] Porky Perk Coffee House

The symbols should be enclosed in some kind of frame (I used double brackets here as a simple example) to make parsing by utilities easier.

--73--

--Novilio

Oh God... Not WarChalking again!!!!!!!!!!!

01-20-2004	#1 (permalink)
Gonarat Use the Search, Luke... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 29	Panera Bread I'll kick this forum topic off. Our local Panera bread (Breckenridge and Dutchmans Lane, Louisville KY) has free 802.11b access now. SSID id is PANERA. They have a nice pamphlet that explains how to set up and connect along with an 866 number to call for help if you totally get stuck. VPN is supported! I haven't used it yet, but I picked up a pamphlet for future use. It looks like it has been well thought out and is being rolled out to many of their restaurants. Their website ( Panera Bread WIFI ) shows current locations. Bill

01-23-2004	#3 (permalink)
Novilio ScrivenStumbler Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 254	Panera works great--and it's free! Well, I went to the new Panera at Southgate here in Colorado Springs this past Monday. They had a sign in the window that read, "Free Wi-Fi!" and I had my laptop in my briefcase. However, when I ordered my toasted cinnamon-crunch bagel, as I asked the nice lady if the free Wi-Fi was working yet. "I don't think so. Now, what is that again?" I explained it to her and she said she'd never heard of it before. I shrugged, took my bagel, and grabbed a table. Cracked open the X21 and...nothing. Oh, well. Probably still getting the bugs out of it. Then it hit me: Whoops! I had all networking protocols disabled after Saturday's wardrive. So I re-enabled TCP/IP and rebooted. As soon as I did, it autoconnected, showed me a policy screen, and I was in. Wasn't super fast--DSLReports tagged it as 800 Kbps downlink--but fast enough to be useful. I was impressed enough to move our Delphi Meetup to Panera from Pike's Perk downtown, which has wireless but it costs. The two new Paneras in the Springs both have free Wi-Fi, as does an older one in Niles, Illinois, where my mother-in-law lives. It looks like they are rolling out free hotspots in as many of their stores as they can. If there's a Panera anywhere near you, a quick wardrive past the front door should tell you--and you can legally connect to this one! --73-- --Novilio

02-24-2004	#13 (permalink)
KGB Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5	Buffalo Wild Wings and Others...... Around the Dayton/Xenia/Fairborn/Springfield Ohio area are some good hotspots.There is a Buffalo Wild Wings in Huber Hts.off I-70 and SR 202 that has access,and another one in Beavercreek off I-675 and N.Fairfield Rd.There is also a Panera Bread near downtown Dayton that has access.I am hoping the Panera in Beavercreek(same exit) will have it soon as well.Also,most Flying J truckstops have access too.They charge I believe $4.95 a day for access,but they have it.It is run by TON services(a company they are in with) and is pretty good from what I hear.There are other spots as well,but I don't remember them offhand.You can go to www.jiwire.com or www.wififreeaccess.com and look them up.The ones I have placed here are ok spots as far as signal,etc.Have a great day and happy hunting. __________________ Kaci Kommitet Gousardstvannoi Bezoposnosti State Security,Your papers please......(looks at papers) Your papers....they are not in order.

03-04-2005	#14 (permalink)
sysadmn Wireless Novice Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: in front of the computer, duh! Posts: 124	Hey Neighbor! Hey, I'm just down the road in Mason, OH. Check it out at WIGLE To return to the thread, has anyone actually gotten VPN to work at Panera? I'm here, and their help desk isn't open. I'm trying to use Cisco's VPN client (IPSEC, Port 443?) into work. It can't establish a connection to either of our three servers - which worked fine from home a half hour ago. BTW, they're running SonicWall firewall with content filtering enabled. No Fark for this bad boy - just like at work __________________ Wigle Stats: Total New Discovered Networks with GPS: 996 All Networks Recorded: 1,517 Networks This Month with GPS: 850 First Post: 26-Dec-2004

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01-26-2004	#6 (permalink)
blboyd Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2	That Dairy Queen is right down the down from my apt. Might have to swing by... Brandon

02-09-2004	#7 (permalink)
decoy5657 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2	<-- I also live in Louisville, I'm trying to get together a list of palces offering LEGIT free wifi :-) Any other places?! great find at panera, never would have thought of that...

02-16-2004	#11 (permalink)
Nico3k Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 22	all the panera's around here have AP's too! even though they use the local DSL provider, its still a nice resource for when you need internet.

02-16-2004	#12 (permalink)
decoy5657 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 2	Both of the Heine Brothers coffee shops have free wifi...