Axim x3 seeing cloaked SSIDs

irongeek · 10-25-2004

My friends Axim x3 seems to be seeing a cloaked SSID (in both WiFiFoFum and the drivers site survey screen), but I thought only tools that can put the card into RF Monitoring mode could see cloaked SSIDS? My Axim x5 with prism2 card can’t see it, Netstumbler cant see it either. The only tools I have that can see the cloaked SSID are Kismet running under Linux on a laptop and Wellenreiter II running under Linux on my Zaurus, but that’s expected sinc they use RFMON. Can the drivers for the built in WiFi on an x3 do RFMON?

Barry · 10-25-2004

He doesn't happen to have ever connected to that ssid before has he? I know if you have the settings in ppc it will show up.

irongeek · 10-26-2004

Nope, he had never connected to it before. I've been doing some more thinking and tt may not be cloaked, it could be coming out of the same wap as another ssid. I know some linksys drivers have problems when two or more ssids are coming from the same WAP.

The Others · 10-26-2004

What does "cloaked" mean? Is it a blank SSID a SSID set not to respond to broadcast probes? Who is the manufacturer of this "cloaked" SSID? Does NS see it?

WhiteGoods · 12-24-2004

"cloaked" means that the access point or device will not broadcast it's SSID. You have to know the SSID to connect to the AP, but I dont recommend it, as I've seen people get lured into a false sense of security with it.

Airstreamer · 12-24-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteGoods

"cloaked" means that the access point or device will not broadcast it's SSID. You have to know the SSID to connect to the AP, but I dont recommend it, as I've seen people get lured into a false sense of security with it.

My el cheepo TI 802.11G card utility in site survey mode will pick up that there is a "Hidden Network" when run, and gives you the MAC addy of the AP.

If you click on the network it pops up a box stating you must know the name to connect. I've tested it numerous times on my own AP, which is setup to NOT broadcast the SSID. When I put in my SSID and hit connect, poof! Connection established. (With the proper WEP key, of course..!)

sTEVE

Barry · 12-24-2004

Uh, I'm pretty sure The Others was trying to jog Irongeek's brain, not actually ask a question. He's a pretty smart guy, for a Brit!

Airstreamer · 12-24-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry

Uh, I'm pretty sure The Others was trying to jog Irongeek's brain, not actually ask a question. He's a pretty smart guy, for a Brit!

Jolly good show, then!

sTEVE

10-25-2004	#1 (permalink)
irongeek Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12	Axim x3 seeing cloaked SSIDs My friends Axim x3 seems to be seeing a cloaked SSID (in both WiFiFoFum and the drivers site survey screen), but I thought only tools that can put the card into RF Monitoring mode could see cloaked SSIDS? My Axim x5 with prism2 card can’t see it, Netstumbler cant see it either. The only tools I have that can see the cloaked SSID are Kismet running under Linux on a laptop and Wellenreiter II running under Linux on my Zaurus, but that’s expected sinc they use RFMON. Can the drivers for the built in WiFi on an x3 do RFMON? __________________ http://www.Irongeek.com

10-25-2004	#2 (permalink)
Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,259	He doesn't happen to have ever connected to that ssid before has he? I know if you have the settings in ppc it will show up. __________________ Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

10-26-2004	#3 (permalink)
irongeek Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12	Nope, he had never connected to it before. I've been doing some more thinking and tt may not be cloaked, it could be coming out of the same wap as another ssid. I know some linksys drivers have problems when two or more ssids are coming from the same WAP. __________________ http://www.Irongeek.com

10-26-2004	#4 (permalink)
The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	What does "cloaked" mean? Is it a blank SSID a SSID set not to respond to broadcast probes? Who is the manufacturer of this "cloaked" SSID? Does NS see it? __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

12-24-2004	#7 (permalink)
Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,259	Uh, I'm pretty sure The Others was trying to jog Irongeek's brain, not actually ask a question. He's a pretty smart guy, for a Brit! __________________ Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

12-24-2004	#5 (permalink)
WhiteGoods Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6	"cloaked" means that the access point or device will not broadcast it's SSID. You have to know the SSID to connect to the AP, but I dont recommend it, as I've seen people get lured into a false sense of security with it.

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