First Time War Driving

AndyB404 · 01-09-2005

I have a old Compaq Armada 1700 with a 266mhz p2 cpu, 4GB HD and a D-Link DWL-G650 with the Atheros chipset. I heard a coworker of mine talk about this wardriving stuff and I thought he was lying. He was. I did some searching and found this site and asked him about things I found on here. He didn't know about simple things like aircrack and commview wifi. I asked him how he was getting into the networks and he said he was just using netstumbler and getting in with that program. I decided to try this out for myself but didn't realize how much goes into just buying the right card and using the right software. I ended up getting a Linksys WPC54g v2 card and it didnt work of course. I didnt do a search on this site before I bought it. I returned it for a D-Link DWL-G650 and it works like a charm. I can't believe how many AP's it picks up on my way to work. Sorry bout the long story. Thanks for making a great piece of software and awesome forum. I just hope my old and slow laptop can handle this and when I get a GPS device.

King_Ice_Flash · 01-09-2005

You don't "Get in" networks with NetStumbler, NS can not do this, and it would be illegal if the network is not yours. NS only detects the networks. It is your card that connects to them. Also, disable TCP/IP. Also, it is illegal to attempt to crack the WEP key for a network you do not have permission to. Just FYI.

"According to blackwave at www.wardrivingisnotacrime.com: 'WarDriving v. The benign act of locating and logging wireless access points while in motion. - blackwave' "

Thorn · 01-09-2005

Accessing or attempted access of a network you do not own (or have persmission to access) is illegal.

http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=9896

AndyB404 · 01-09-2005

Well I am not trying to break into any networks that I don't have permission to. I'm just looking for AP's. I defintily don't want to get in trouble. I'm happy that my laptop isnt that old to do this stuff with. Now for another round of newbie questions. What book would be best to learn about wifi and wardriving? What other programs besides NS and aircrack should I be using? What sites besides this should I visit and read? Sorry if this has been asked already. If it has on this site, tell me and I will search for them. Thanks again.

King_Ice_Flash · 01-09-2005

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Originally Posted by AndyB404

Well I am not trying to break into any networks that I don't have permission to. I'm just looking for AP's. I defintily don't want to get in trouble. I'm happy that my laptop isnt that old to do this stuff with. Now for another round of newbie questions. What book would be best to learn about wifi and wardriving? What other programs besides NS and aircrack should I be using? What sites besides this should I visit and read? Sorry if this has been asked already. If it has on this site, tell me and I will search for them. Thanks again.

"Wardriving Drive, Detect, Defend" and "Drive By WIFI Guide"

Give Kismet a try.

AndyB404 · 01-09-2005

Thanks for the info. I will get right on that. I need to go to Borders Books anyways to get a study guide for A+ certification.

streaker69 · 01-09-2005

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Originally Posted by AndyB404

Thanks for the info. I will get right on that. I need to go to Borders Books anyways to get a study guide for A+ certification.

sigh...

AndyB404 · 01-09-2005

What's the sigh for? Did I say something stupid?

streaker69 · 01-09-2005

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Originally Posted by AndyB404

What's the sigh for? Did I say something stupid?

No, not really. Just the A+ cert is soooooooooo easy, that I never saw the need for a study guide. But hey, to each his own, good luck on the test.

Thorn · 01-09-2005

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Originally Posted by AndyB404

Well I am not trying to break into any networks that I don't have permission to. I'm just looking for AP's. I defintily don't want to get in trouble. I'm happy that my laptop isnt that old to do this stuff with. Now for another round of newbie questions. What book would be best to learn about wifi and wardriving?

The best book for WarDriving is WarDriving: Drive, Detect, Defend It was written my three moderators on these forums, Chris, Mother, and myself. I'm not merely bragging when I say it's the best book on WarDriving, a lot of other people involved in the activity agree.

For a more general introduction to WiFi, Jeff Duntemann's Wi-Fi Guide, Second Edition is the best book. If you're just starting off, read Jeff's book first, and then our's. Jeff's starts off at a beginner level, and moves you up to an intermediate. Our book is more intermediate to expert.

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Originally Posted by AndyB404

What other programs besides NS and aircrack should I be using?

If you use Linux at all, the you need to check out kismet. www.kismetwireless.net

AndyB404 · 01-09-2005

Oh ok. I like to be prepared on the older stuff they might ask on the test.

AndyB404 · 01-09-2005

Well those 2 books I will be getting for sure. I want to see if I can use the Hot Spot at the book store when I go. I have never really did any kind of networking since I live in a remote spot with no broadband internet yet. I have only done p2p networking with the 2 PC's I have at home. Until either I get a new/used laptop, I wont be using Linux on this machine. It has intergrated winmodem and it won't work with any Linux OS. Plus I need a mobile Windows OS solution for helping my friends and family when they need help with their PC's. If only they sold laptops for 300 bucks. LOL. Thanks again for all your advice guys.

streaker69 · 01-09-2005

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Originally Posted by AndyB404

Well those 2 books I will be getting for sure. I want to see if I can use the Hot Spot at the book store when I go. I have never really did any kind of networking since I live in a remote spot with no broadband internet yet. I have only done p2p networking with the 2 PC's I have at home. Until either I get a new/used laptop, I wont be using Linux on this machine. It has intergrated winmodem and it won't work with any Linux OS. Plus I need a mobile Windows OS solution for helping my friends and family when they need help with their PC's. If only they sold laptops for 300 bucks. LOL. Thanks again for all your advice guys.

Little known secret about buying PC's. Check with your local PD's and sherrif's office when they sell stuff out of the evidence locker. Many times things go unclaimed, evidence is no longer needed for a case and it's sold off. Stolen laptops get sold all the time if they can't be returned to the owner because the owner wasn't smart enough to write down the SN.

Ya never know what you might find at those sales.

King_Ice_Flash · 01-09-2005

Unfortunately, most of the time, there is a reason that they don't claim them, especially with the vehicles.

streaker69 · 01-09-2005

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Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash

Unfortunately, most of the time, there is a reason that they don't claim them, especially with the vehicles.

Bloodstains and bullet holes never really hurt anyone. Well, at least after they've dried and the shooting was over..

01-09-2005	#1 (permalink)
AndyB404 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	First Time War Driving I have a old Compaq Armada 1700 with a 266mhz p2 cpu, 4GB HD and a D-Link DWL-G650 with the Atheros chipset. I heard a coworker of mine talk about this wardriving stuff and I thought he was lying. He was. I did some searching and found this site and asked him about things I found on here. He didn't know about simple things like aircrack and commview wifi. I asked him how he was getting into the networks and he said he was just using netstumbler and getting in with that program. I decided to try this out for myself but didn't realize how much goes into just buying the right card and using the right software. I ended up getting a Linksys WPC54g v2 card and it didnt work of course. I didnt do a search on this site before I bought it. I returned it for a D-Link DWL-G650 and it works like a charm. I can't believe how many AP's it picks up on my way to work. Sorry bout the long story. Thanks for making a great piece of software and awesome forum. I just hope my old and slow laptop can handle this and when I get a GPS device.

01-09-2005	#2 (permalink)
King_Ice_Flash Alien Paranoid Stumbler Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 2,634	You don't "Get in" networks with NetStumbler, NS can not do this, and it would be illegal if the network is not yours. NS only detects the networks. It is your card that connects to them. Also, disable TCP/IP. Also, it is illegal to attempt to crack the WEP key for a network you do not have permission to. Just FYI. "According to blackwave at www.wardrivingisnotacrime.com: 'WarDriving v. The benign act of locating and logging wireless access points while in motion. - blackwave' " __________________ "Yeah," said a voice from under the table, "you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel." Last edited by King_Ice_Flash : 01-09-2005 at 10:51 AM.

01-09-2005	#3 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,099	Accessing or attempted access of a network you do not own (or have persmission to access) is illegal. http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=9896 __________________ Thorn "I'm The Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I am from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation Kasterborous. I'm 903 years old and I am the man who is going to save your lives and all 6 billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?"

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King_Ice_Flash Alien Paranoid Stumbler Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 2,634	Unfortunately, most of the time, there is a reason that they don't claim them, especially with the vehicles. __________________ "Yeah," said a voice from under the table, "you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel."

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01-09-2005	#4 (permalink)
AndyB404 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Well I am not trying to break into any networks that I don't have permission to. I'm just looking for AP's. I defintily don't want to get in trouble. I'm happy that my laptop isnt that old to do this stuff with. Now for another round of newbie questions. What book would be best to learn about wifi and wardriving? What other programs besides NS and aircrack should I be using? What sites besides this should I visit and read? Sorry if this has been asked already. If it has on this site, tell me and I will search for them. Thanks again.

01-09-2005	#6 (permalink)
AndyB404 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Thanks for the info. I will get right on that. I need to go to Borders Books anyways to get a study guide for A+ certification.

01-09-2005	#8 (permalink)
AndyB404 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	What's the sigh for? Did I say something stupid?

01-09-2005	#11 (permalink)
AndyB404 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Oh ok. I like to be prepared on the older stuff they might ask on the test.

01-09-2005	#12 (permalink)
AndyB404 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Well those 2 books I will be getting for sure. I want to see if I can use the Hot Spot at the book store when I go. I have never really did any kind of networking since I live in a remote spot with no broadband internet yet. I have only done p2p networking with the 2 PC's I have at home. Until either I get a new/used laptop, I wont be using Linux on this machine. It has intergrated winmodem and it won't work with any Linux OS. Plus I need a mobile Windows OS solution for helping my friends and family when they need help with their PC's. If only they sold laptops for 300 bucks. LOL. Thanks again for all your advice guys.