Hello, all...who else wants to shoot their iPaq?

muggle_stumbler · 09-18-2004

Hello, ladies & gents.

I have an iPaq 3835 with which I'm trying to use an Orinoco client gold card to access the internet with through my roommate's netgear router. The card links with the router, but I can't get it to connect to the internet - can't get an IP assigned. Using the Agere network troubleshooter i get a "no wireless network adapter with a dynamic IP address found" message when I click "repair".

I'm not asking for an answer here, but links to threads you think might answer the problem. I've searched for 2 days and I'm not getting anything.

Thanks. Please pardon me if I sound as though I've been run ragged by trying to get this !@#$@ thing to connect...

Peace

Thorn · 09-18-2004

You have your card set for DHCP, and it isn't working. Try a fixed IP address. This is a Networking 101 issue.

muggle_stumbler · 09-20-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorn

You have your card set for DHCP, and it isn't working. Try a fixed IP address. This is a Networking 101 issue.

actually, i've already tried both ways numerous times.

Thorn · 09-20-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by muggle_stumbler

actually, i've already tried both ways numerous times.

What happens with the fixed IP?

muggle_stumbler · 09-21-2004

Not a thing. I've tried putting in the IP info from my desktop that's connected to the router (192.168.0.5) - nothing. I've tried putting in other IP addys (.0.2 - .0.9) - nothing. I've tried the info that vxIPconfig shows while the Ipaq is in it's cradle (which I didn't really expect to work). - nothing.

I was thinking that if there was a program that would let me manually assign the DHCP server, I could get things going. But that may be a reflection of the limit of my networking knowledge

My roommate has completely opened up the AP from what I can tell, and I basically get the same results when i try to connect to public hotspots.

alas...

Chris · 09-21-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by muggle_stumbler

Not a thing. I've tried putting in the IP info from my desktop that's connected to the router (192.168.0.5) - nothing. I've tried putting in other IP addys (.0.2 - .0.9) - nothing. I've tried the info that vxIPconfig shows while the Ipaq is in it's cradle (which I didn't really expect to work). - nothing.

I was thinking that if there was a program that would let me manually assign the DHCP server, I could get things going. But that may be a reflection of the limit of my networking knowledge

My roommate has completely opened up the AP from what I can tell, and I basically get the same results when i try to connect to public hotspots.

alas...

What is your definition of 'nothing'?

Are you not able to ping the router? Or are you not able to access the web? It could be that you also need to give it DNS info as well as IP/netmask/router info.

Let us know if you've tried that already too.

Thorn · 09-21-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by muggle_stumbler

Not a thing. I've tried putting in the IP info from my desktop that's connected to the router (192.168.0.5) - nothing. I've tried putting in other IP addys (.0.2 - .0.9) - nothing. I've tried the info that vxIPconfig shows while the Ipaq is in it's cradle (which I didn't really expect to work). - nothing.

I was thinking that if there was a program that would let me manually assign the DHCP server, I could get things going. But that may be a reflection of the limit of my networking knowledge

My roommate has completely opened up the AP from what I can tell, and I basically get the same results when i try to connect to public hotspots.

alas...

Sounds like the Gateway and/or DNS settings are incorrect or incomplete, which brings us right back to Networking 101. If you are trying a manual IP, at a minumum you need to put ALL of in the following information manually:

IP Address
Subnet Mask
Gateway IP Address
Primary DNS Server IP Address
Secondary DNS Server IP Address

This same information should be coming from the DHCP server. If it is incomplete, the client cannot connect to the Internet, or it is will do so using numerical addressing only, and will not resolve names to IP addresses.

For what it's worth, "manual" and "DHCP" are opposites. DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol) is the automatic assignment of IP information; manual is just what the name says. (Which of course, brings us back to Netwrking 101.)

muggle_stumbler · 09-21-2004

"Nothing" means that besides seeing an access point and connecting to it, there seems to be no ability for the pda to send on the network (which seems to stem from it not being able to acquire an IP addy). I've tried pinging with vxutils but that only seems to turn up bad attempts.

i've tried manually entering the ip, subnet mask, default gateway, and DNS, WINS.

Thorn · 09-21-2004

Have you tried pinging as Chris suggested?

Sometimes drivers don't load successfully, although it is pretty unlikely that you'd see the RF connection but not connect at the TCP/IP level. Try the ORiNOCO (WLLUC46) driver. It is the WLCE3074.exe download at the Proxim ORiNOCO site.

muggle_stumbler · 09-21-2004

tried pinging. no good.

I've tried using the orinoco driver twice, and the card won'e even power up with them (???). I might try them again later to make I didn't somehow miss something. Plus, the agere driver is what came on the cd that came with the card.....

Sooner Al · 09-21-2004

...with an old ORiNOCO Silver card, my old iPAQ 3835 and one of the original PC Card sleeves. This was running the PPC 2002 OS on the iPAQ. The card worked with my brothers newer PC Card sleeve. How old is the sleeve your using?

muggle_stumbler · 10-09-2004

AHA!!!!

Problem solved! It was something I thought of, but didn't follow through on the last time.

It was the driver. The Win CE 3.0 driver that came on the cd I got with the card was le garbage.

SO, if you have a Proxim 8420-WD (aka Orinoco Client Gold PC Card) that you're having trouble with try the drivers here: http://www.agere.com/mobility/docs/...er_sr02-2.3.zip

This'll also be the driver for the Silver version of this card.

If you're buying on Ebay like I did, I wouldn't bother paying more for a card that comes with a CD. You're just going to have to download the driver anyway.

To the contributors, thanks for the input.

09-18-2004	#1 (permalink)
muggle_stumbler Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	Hello, all...who else wants to shoot their iPaq? Hello, ladies & gents. I have an iPaq 3835 with which I'm trying to use an Orinoco client gold card to access the internet with through my roommate's netgear router. The card links with the router, but I can't get it to connect to the internet - can't get an IP assigned. Using the Agere network troubleshooter i get a "no wireless network adapter with a dynamic IP address found" message when I click "repair". I'm not asking for an answer here, but links to threads you think might answer the problem. I've searched for 2 days and I'm not getting anything. Thanks. Please pardon me if I sound as though I've been run ragged by trying to get this !@#$@ thing to connect... Peace

09-18-2004	#2 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,098	You have your card set for DHCP, and it isn't working. Try a fixed IP address. This is a Networking 101 issue. __________________ Thorn "I'm The Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I am from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation Kasterborous. I'm 903 years old and I am the man who is going to save your lives and all 6 billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?"

09-21-2004	#9 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,098	Have you tried pinging as Chris suggested? Sometimes drivers don't load successfully, although it is pretty unlikely that you'd see the RF connection but not connect at the TCP/IP level. Try the ORiNOCO (WLLUC46) driver. It is the WLCE3074.exe download at the Proxim ORiNOCO site. __________________ Thorn "I'm The Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I am from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation Kasterborous. I'm 903 years old and I am the man who is going to save your lives and all 6 billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?"

09-21-2004	#11 (permalink)
Sooner Al Old Enough to Know Better Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norman, Oklahoma Posts: 63	I had a lot of problems... ...with an old ORiNOCO Silver card, my old iPAQ 3835 and one of the original PC Card sleeves. This was running the PPC 2002 OS on the iPAQ. The card worked with my brothers newer PC Card sleeve. How old is the sleeve your using? __________________ "When all else fails, read the instructions..."

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09-21-2004	#5 (permalink)
muggle_stumbler Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	Not a thing. I've tried putting in the IP info from my desktop that's connected to the router (192.168.0.5) - nothing. I've tried putting in other IP addys (.0.2 - .0.9) - nothing. I've tried the info that vxIPconfig shows while the Ipaq is in it's cradle (which I didn't really expect to work). - nothing. I was thinking that if there was a program that would let me manually assign the DHCP server, I could get things going. But that may be a reflection of the limit of my networking knowledge My roommate has completely opened up the AP from what I can tell, and I basically get the same results when i try to connect to public hotspots. alas...

09-21-2004	#8 (permalink)
muggle_stumbler Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	"Nothing" means that besides seeing an access point and connecting to it, there seems to be no ability for the pda to send on the network (which seems to stem from it not being able to acquire an IP addy). I've tried pinging with vxutils but that only seems to turn up bad attempts. i've tried manually entering the ip, subnet mask, default gateway, and DNS, WINS.

09-21-2004	#10 (permalink)
muggle_stumbler Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	tried pinging. no good. I've tried using the orinoco driver twice, and the card won'e even power up with them (???). I might try them again later to make I didn't somehow miss something. Plus, the agere driver is what came on the cd that came with the card.....

10-09-2004	#12 (permalink)
muggle_stumbler Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7	AHA!!!! Problem solved! It was something I thought of, but didn't follow through on the last time. It was the driver. The Win CE 3.0 driver that came on the cd I got with the card was le garbage. SO, if you have a Proxim 8420-WD (aka Orinoco Client Gold PC Card) that you're having trouble with try the drivers here: http://www.agere.com/mobility/docs/...er_sr02-2.3.zip This'll also be the driver for the Silver version of this card. If you're buying on Ebay like I did, I wouldn't bother paying more for a card that comes with a CD. You're just going to have to download the driver anyway. To the contributors, thanks for the input.