Not broadcasting a ssid does that make it secure

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mike509123 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 11	Not broadcasting a ssid does that make it secure Here is the setup i have a wireless router and i plan to put a ssid, but not broadcast it. Also there wont be any computers hooking up to the wireless portion because i paid little for the router and what to use it only for desktop computers which have regular lan cards. (btw there is no way to turn off the wireless i checked already) The other thing is i dont want to turn on wep cause its un-necessary. So is the system secure?

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The other thing is i dont want to turn on wep cause its un-necessary. So is the system secure?

Is it? I'd turn it on.

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beakmyn root\.workspace\.garbage. Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,796	No, it's not. I'll be able to see it with Kismet and a criminal would be able to connect and steal your bandwidth. Just to be sure I'd remove the antenna and put a 50ohm resistor from tip to ground on the connector to terminate the signal. __________________ Daughter with arms inside shirt: "Daddy I'm not Armish" ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ╞ NS Icons Explained\|et hoc genus omne ╡ └──────────────────────────────┘

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audit Country Boy. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Deep in the Woods. Posts: 1,909	Uh Mike, If you don't like an answer, don't report it to the mods. We have enough to do with real complaints then deal with someone that doesn't like an answer. And yes The Other's is right, turn it on since it's still a gateway to your system from the outside. SSID broadcast or not. __________________ audit Blackberry Outage Mail List. Be the one of first people to know about RIM outages. Blackberry Chat Mail List. My day to day life.

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King_Ice_Flash Alien Paranoid Stumbler Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 2,625	Most APs have a option in the configuration to disable the wireless, but you might have to download an update. __________________ "Yeah," said a voice from under the table, "you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel."

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Here is the setup i have a wireless router and i plan to put a ssid, but not broadcast it. Also there wont be any computers hooking up to the wireless portion because i paid little for the router and what to use it only for desktop computers which have regular lan cards. (btw there is no way to turn off the wireless i checked already) The other thing is i dont want to turn on wep cause its un-necessary. So is the system secure?

First you say that WEP is unnecessary but then when you report a post you say that "everyone knows that WEP makes it a little more secure".

Make up your f*cking mind, junior.

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King_Ice_Flash Alien Paranoid Stumbler Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 2,625	Oh great, now you woke him up.... Have fun __________________ "Yeah," said a voice from under the table, "you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel."

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mike509123 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 11	wait a sec ... are you saying that kismet sees the ssid even if no one is connecting to the wireless router. See that doesnt make sense cause i would think it would require at least one user to connect and then based on the packet he sends kismet would get the response. As for wep i could care less if its on or off i am trying to just answer another question is turning off the ssid and having no one connecting to it wireless secure? (i want to introduce as few variables as possible, Sorry)

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Uh Mike,

If you don't like an answer, don't report it to the mods. We have enough to do with real complaints then deal with someone that doesn't like an answer.

And yes The Other's is right, turn it on since it's still a gateway to your system from the outside. SSID broadcast or not.

I'm /confused

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wait a sec ... are you saying that kismet sees the ssid even if no one is connecting to the wireless router. See that doesnt make sense cause i would think it would require at least one user to connect and then based on the packet he sends kismet would get the response.

As for wep i could care less if its on or off i am trying to just answer another question is turning off the ssid and having no one connecting to it wireless secure? (i want to introduce as few variables as possible, Sorry)

Yes, it could. I have had kismet find the SSID when NO ONE was connected wirelessly to the network. I don't know why.

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I'm /confused

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01-05-2005	#12 (permalink)
mike509123 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 11	Okey ... I found my answer not broadcasting the SSID even if no one connects make it still insecure. Thank You everyone. hope everyone is having a good new year. Michael

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Okey ...
I found my answer not broadcasting the SSID even if no one connects make it still insecure. Thank You everyone.

hope everyone is having a good new year.
Michael

Have a good day!

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wait a sec ... are you saying that kismet sees the ssid even if no one is connecting to the wireless router.

Yes...get a clue.

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is turning off the ssid and having no one connecting to it wireless secure? (i want to introduce as few variables as possible, Sorry)

No, you don't "turn off" the SSID. Start using proper punctuation or kiss your posts goodbye. You need to do more reading than posting because I sense a major bitch-slapping in your future as a result of your extreme lack of basic knowledge.

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