Pimp the Barn, with WiFi-bling (Split from : Help with 1 mile network setup!) - Page 10

wrzwaldo · 04-04-2006

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Originally Posted by streaker69

Yeah, you're right, I do have it drawn using the LAN and WAN ports on the bridges. I did do it quick and didn't think it through real well. Spent most of the day fighting with Vmware and a FreeBSD build, and found out that we have some solid waste haulers sneaking into the plant at night and dumping illegally.

Light 'em up streak!

Sleeping Dog · 04-04-2006

Hey Streaker...

I appreciate the drawing. I really like the "AlGoreWeb thingie"... it kinda' looks like somebody's brain on drugs. Your drawing is similar to what I'm trying to do except that, at least initially during the test phase, I'm only setting up wired clients on the other side of the bridge (connected to WRT54GS #2) for now. Differences are that I am routing through a PC on the base side and do not have a seperate hub/switch on the bridged side (only using the LAN ports on WRT54GS #2).
I posted a drawing of my initial test setup on page 7 of this thread. I also listed what I have been able to get to work so far in a post earlier today on page 9.

Again, I appreciate everyone's good input and help. Now if I can just get the rig to connect to that "AlGoreWeb thingie"...

streaker69 · 04-04-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

Hey Streaker...

I appreciate the drawing. I really like the "AlGoreWeb thingie"... it kinda' looks like somebody's brain on drugs. Your drawing is similar to what I'm trying to do except that, at least initially during the test phase, I'm only setting up wired clients on the other side of the bridge (connected to WRT54GS #2) for now. Differences are that I am routing through a PC on the base side and do not have a seperate hub/switch on the bridged side (only using the LAN ports on WRT54GS #2).
I posted a drawing of my initial test setup on page 7 of this thread. I also listed what I have been able to get to work so far in a post earlier today on page 9.

Again, I appreciate everyone's good input and help. Now if I can just get the rig to connect to that "AlGoreWeb thingie"...

Test out by first pinging something else on the same side of the bridge, if you get a response, try pinging something on the other side of the bridge. Then ping your router's LAN port, then your Router's WAN port. If you can ping everything but your router's WAN port, then it's your router. If you can ping your router's WAN then try pinging something on the internet by IP, then by name. If you can do it by IP but not by name, then it's your DNS configuration.

streaker69 · 04-04-2006

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Originally Posted by wrzwaldo

Light 'em up streak!

eh, they're gonna be lit up. The cameras got set to record mode this evening, and the gate code has been changed. Now we're gonne see what trucks get stuck at the gate in the middle of the night.

After that, I'll leave it up to the plant manager to 'discuss' things with them.

After all, who wants to process shit that hasn't been paid for?

Sleeping Dog · 04-04-2006

Thanks Streaker.
I'll try the ping-thing after dinner.

Speaking of cameras. The three that are already in the horse barn can also integrate into an X-10 security system. I can (and probably will) add more cameras to cover the house and the tack room in the barn. They, and the recorder, can be set to individually trigger from specified motion sensors.

I hope that you catch your phantom dumpers. That kind of thing is just lower than low.

Cheers

Sleeping Dog · 04-04-2006

PS...

I wasn't BS'ing about the nasty weather that forced me to shut down everything a couple of nights ago. There were more than two dozen people killed North and West of here... Sad stuff.

streaker69 · 04-04-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

Thanks Streaker.
I'll try the ping-thing after dinner.

Speaking of cameras. The three that are already in the horse barn can also integrate into an X-10 security system. I can (and probably will) add more cameras to cover the house and the tack room in the barn. They, and the recorder, can be set to individually trigger from specified motion sensors.

I hope that you catch your phantom dumpers. That kind of thing is just lower than low.

Cheers

BTW, I do alot of stuff with X10 as well.

Check out my home page, for some video surveillance stuff, and X10 stuff.

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

I am still missing something somewhere.
I can ping everything on my local network from both sides of the bridge... All of the computers on both sides of the bridge can see each other and share files, printers, etc., but the two "setup" machines that are connected to WRT #1 and WRT #2 still can't access the Internet. I have tried several different configurations with the same results.

One thread I came across suggested using the IP of the router in between WRT #1 and the Internet as the gateway setting. In my case, this is my old server with NIC #2 on the LAN side set at 192.168.0.1 - 255.255.255.0 (no gateway, DNS or WINS added) and NIC #1 on the Internet side set DHCP enabled. Tried that but it didn't seem to work either. Maybe I have something else set wrong.

Any additional detailed suggestions would be welcomed at this point. IT'S ALMOST THERE, MY FRIENDS!

streaker69 · 04-05-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

I am still missing something somewhere.
I can ping everything on my local network from both sides of the bridge... All of the computers on both sides of the bridge can see each other and share files, printers, etc., but the two "setup" machines that are connected to WRT #1 and WRT #2 still can't access the Internet. I have tried several different configurations with the same results.

One thread I came across suggested using the IP of the router in between WRT #1 and the Internet as the gateway setting. In my case, this is my old server with NIC #2 on the LAN side set at 192.168.0.1 - 255.255.255.0 (no gateway, DNS or WINS added) and NIC #1 on the Internet side set DHCP enabled. Tried that but it didn't seem to work either. Maybe I have something else set wrong.

Any additional detailed suggestions would be welcomed at this point. IT'S ALMOST THERE, MY FRIENDS!

Can you ping the IP address of your WAN nic in your router machine from:

a machine on the far side of the bridge?

A machine on the near side of the bridge?

The machine that's running as the router?

If you do an ipconfig /all does it show your WAN nic as having an IP address that is inline with your ISP?

MikeP928 · 04-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

I am still missing something somewhere.
I can ping everything on my local network from both sides of the bridge... All of the computers on both sides of the bridge can see each other and share files, printers, etc., but the two "setup" machines that are connected to WRT #1 and WRT #2 still can't access the Internet. I have tried several different configurations with the same results.

One thread I came across suggested using the IP of the router in between WRT #1 and the Internet as the gateway setting. In my case, this is my old server with NIC #2 on the LAN side set at 192.168.0.1 - 255.255.255.0 (no gateway, DNS or WINS added) and NIC #1 on the Internet side set DHCP enabled. Tried that but it didn't seem to work either. Maybe I have something else set wrong.

Any additional detailed suggestions would be welcomed at this point. IT'S ALMOST THERE, MY FRIENDS!

Are you running routing on the windows PC or using that mickey mouse 'share my internet connection with my other computers' crap?

The auto sharing setup requires a specific class c range. I don't remember what it is.

Can you get to the internet from the gateway PC?

Can you ping the lan side of your DSL modem?

Can you ping the wan side of your DSL modem?

I have had similar fun today. I changed the package for my office phone/DSL plan and they gave me a new static ip. They lied. I had to call again and argue to get someone to look up and verify my IP, yep, different one. Of course, the bad one worked for a couple of hours until someone stepped on it. Then I found out they had moved the DNS boxes. I had mine hardcoded because they have problems with DNS proxy. Ain't it fun?

MikeP

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

My ISP uses leases that change everything from the IP , Submet, Gateway, DHCP Server and DNS servers every 2-5 days and sometimes more often than that.
If I cmd - ipconfig /all, I see everything relative to the NIC connected to the cable modem and the one connected to the hub/switch. Just noticed that the ping fails from the setup machine #1 connected to WRT #1 (the Access Point) when I try to ping the server/router's 192.168.0.1 address. Seems strange to me because I can swap shared files with the routing computer from setup computer #1.
I get Internet on all of the LAN computers and can ping the router computer, Internet addresses, NIC's, etc. from any of them. Just can't seem to ping THROUGH WRT #1 or across the bridge even though all other wireless and wired functionality seems to be there (except Internet access).

I'm afraid that the routing box is using that "Mickey-Mouse share my Internet connection crap", but it worked just fine with an all wired 10 machine office (workgroup only, no domain) for the last five years. If I need to reconfigure, please educate me. There is another subnet on the system as well that shares the broadband connection but is not part of the workgroup. It is dedicated and task specific, so I'm trying not to disrupt it any more than necessary (it routes through the same server/router).

PS Mike...

Is your avatar a pic of Jesse Ventura from the Predator (1) movie? {i.e. mini-gun with ammo backpack]

streaker69 · 04-05-2006

Your routing machine, does it have that Windows Firewall on it? If it does, did you configure the firewall to allow access through it for all the subnets on your network?

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

I disable all of the firewalls for this exercise while I am working on the config. I don't use the Microsoft firewall anyway.

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

I added the 192.168.0.1 address of the router PC's NIC to the DD-WRT Network setup gateway and I am now able to ping that NIC from all of the machines... However, still no Internet.

Should I try enable DHCP server or DHCP Forwarder with a starting IP of 192.168.0.1 ?

streaker69 · 04-05-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

I added the 192.168.0.1 address of the router PC's NIC to the DD-WRT Network setup gateway and I am now able to ping that NIC from all of the machines... However, still no Internet.

Should I try enable DHCP server or DHCP Forwarder with a starting IP of 192.168.0.1 ?

Your WAN IP should be a real world address assigned by your ISP's DHCP server through the cable modem. Your cable modem effectively works as a bridge to the downstream router from there. If your WAN IP is not a real worl IP then that's a problem.

What's really frustrating about this, is that if I were there, I know that I'd probably have it fixed in about 5 minutes.

04-04-2006	#137 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	Hey Streaker... I appreciate the drawing. I really like the "AlGoreWeb thingie"... it kinda' looks like somebody's brain on drugs. Your drawing is similar to what I'm trying to do except that, at least initially during the test phase, I'm only setting up wired clients on the other side of the bridge (connected to WRT54GS #2) for now. Differences are that I am routing through a PC on the base side and do not have a seperate hub/switch on the bridged side (only using the LAN ports on WRT54GS #2). I posted a drawing of my initial test setup on page 7 of this thread. I also listed what I have been able to get to work so far in a post earlier today on page 9. Again, I appreciate everyone's good input and help. Now if I can just get the rig to connect to that "AlGoreWeb thingie"... __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-04-2006	#140 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	Thanks Streaker. I'll try the ping-thing after dinner. Speaking of cameras. The three that are already in the horse barn can also integrate into an X-10 security system. I can (and probably will) add more cameras to cover the house and the tack room in the barn. They, and the recorder, can be set to individually trigger from specified motion sensors. I hope that you catch your phantom dumpers. That kind of thing is just lower than low. Cheers __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-04-2006	#141 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	PS... I wasn't BS'ing about the nasty weather that forced me to shut down everything a couple of nights ago. There were more than two dozen people killed North and West of here... Sad stuff. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-05-2006	#143 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	I am still missing something somewhere. I can ping everything on my local network from both sides of the bridge... All of the computers on both sides of the bridge can see each other and share files, printers, etc., but the two "setup" machines that are connected to WRT #1 and WRT #2 still can't access the Internet. I have tried several different configurations with the same results. One thread I came across suggested using the IP of the router in between WRT #1 and the Internet as the gateway setting. In my case, this is my old server with NIC #2 on the LAN side set at 192.168.0.1 - 255.255.255.0 (no gateway, DNS or WINS added) and NIC #1 on the Internet side set DHCP enabled. Tried that but it didn't seem to work either. Maybe I have something else set wrong. Any additional detailed suggestions would be welcomed at this point. IT'S ALMOST THERE, MY FRIENDS! __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-05-2006	#146 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	My ISP uses leases that change everything from the IP , Submet, Gateway, DHCP Server and DNS servers every 2-5 days and sometimes more often than that. If I cmd - ipconfig /all, I see everything relative to the NIC connected to the cable modem and the one connected to the hub/switch. Just noticed that the ping fails from the setup machine #1 connected to WRT #1 (the Access Point) when I try to ping the server/router's 192.168.0.1 address. Seems strange to me because I can swap shared files with the routing computer from setup computer #1. I get Internet on all of the LAN computers and can ping the router computer, Internet addresses, NIC's, etc. from any of them. Just can't seem to ping THROUGH WRT #1 or across the bridge even though all other wireless and wired functionality seems to be there (except Internet access). I'm afraid that the routing box is using that "Mickey-Mouse share my Internet connection crap", but it worked just fine with an all wired 10 machine office (workgroup only, no domain) for the last five years. If I need to reconfigure, please educate me. There is another subnet on the system as well that shares the broadband connection but is not part of the workgroup. It is dedicated and task specific, so I'm trying not to disrupt it any more than necessary (it routes through the same server/router). PS Mike... Is your avatar a pic of Jesse Ventura from the Predator (1) movie? {i.e. mini-gun with ammo backpack] __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog Last edited by Sleeping Dog : 04-05-2006 at 05:13 PM.

04-05-2006	#147 (permalink)
streaker69 Psychic Amish Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA Posts: 12,240	Your routing machine, does it have that Windows Firewall on it? If it does, did you configure the firewall to allow access through it for all the subnets on your network? __________________ Treat your gun like your genitals, only whip it out when it's absolutely necessary.

04-05-2006	#148 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	I disable all of the firewalls for this exercise while I am working on the config. I don't use the Microsoft firewall anyway. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-05-2006	#149 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	I added the 192.168.0.1 address of the router PC's NIC to the DD-WRT Network setup gateway and I am now able to ping that NIC from all of the machines... However, still no Internet. Should I try enable DHCP server or DHCP Forwarder with a starting IP of 192.168.0.1 ? __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

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