Pimp the Barn, with WiFi-bling (Split from : Help with 1 mile network setup!) - Page 11

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

Both NIC's in the routing PC have real world IP's. One is assigned by the ISP (DHCP enabled), the other is the 192.168.0.1 on the local network side. Our ISP makes people pay extra for static IP's.

Thorn · 04-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

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I'm afraid that the routing box is using that "Mickey-Mouse share my Internet connection crap", but it worked just fine with an all wired 10 machine office (workgroup only, no domain) for the last five years. If I need to reconfigure, please educate me. There is another subnet on the system as well that shares the broadband connection but is not part of the workgroup. It is dedicated and task specific, so I'm trying not to disrupt it any more than necessary (it routes through the same server/router). ...

Like I said back in #113, "I dislike using PCs as router, and would spend an extra 35 bucks on a hardware router like the Linksys BEFSR41."

Dutch · 04-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Thorn

Like I said back in #113, "I dislike using PCs as router, and would spend an extra 35 bucks on a hardware router like the Linksys BEFSR41."

Or go with the easy solution, drop using Windows ICS, connect one of the Linksys WRT54GS's right after the DSL modem, and then the switch to one of the LAN ports on that WRT. Use the Linksys WRT54GS as it was meant to be used : a combined WiFi acesspoint and Router.
Of course that will only work, if you still have RF-LOS from the place where the DSL modem is, to the barn. Otherwise you need to do a double cat5 run from the DSL modems postion to where the GS should be, and back from there to the switch.

As Thorn said earlier, and again in the previous post: Hardware beats software* for routing purposes. It takes the headache out of the equation.

Dutch

*Especially when using feature limited NAT routingsoftware on top of an already ressourcedemanding OS

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

I might just have to do that if I do a similar permanent setup like this at my place, but I am trying as closely as possible to simulate what is at the farm where this rig will find its permanent home. Besides, I'm learning a lot about this from you good folks.

I have also discovered that "Lots of Patients" is the operative term with this project. If I don't get this sucker working right soon, I will probably get to know lots of patients at the mental hospital.

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

I would do that, Dutch, but like I said before, I am trying to "emulate" what is already in place there... have considered the double CAT-5 option too as I am trying to keep the Hi-gain antennae wires under 5 ft in length.

I feel like I'm so darned close to having this working. All pings are getting through now, even over the bridge, except pinging the ISP.

Dutch · 04-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

I might just have to do that if I do a similar permanent setup like this at my place, but I am trying as closely as possible to simulate what is at the farm where this rig will find its permanent home. Besides, I'm learning a lot about this from you good folks.

I have also discovered that "Lots of Patients" is the operative term with this project. If I don't get this sucker working right soon, I will probably bet to know lots of patients at the mental hospital.

Say hi to nurse Ratched from me...
/me scrathes lobotomyscar on forehead.

Dutch

Thorn · 04-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

I would do that, Dutch, but like I said before, I am trying to "emulate" what is already in place there... have considered the double CAT-5 option too as I am trying to keep the Hi-gain antennae wires under 5 ft in length. ...

Fair enough, but wouldn't you be better served buying your sister a hardware router for her setup? I wouldn't doubt that you're going to have this exact same problem using the PC and ICS. PCs doing routing duties never work well in my experience.

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

Hot duckety...I'm getting closer.
Just for giggles, I added the MAC addresses of both NIC cards to the "allow" list.
I reset the WRT #1 to "DHCP enabled" and plugged in the ISP's host and Domain names. I then reset the network address server setting to "DHCP forwarder".

I can now ping the ISP address. Still not "on the Internet" yet, but I think I'm getting close.

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

Going to have to take a break. My girlfriend just arrived with dinner... Got to get it while it's hot. That applies to the food too.

wiresalot · 04-05-2006

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I can now ping the ISP address. Still not "on the Internet" yet, but I think I'm getting close.

Can you ping something other then your ISP?, Ie. 64.233.161.99(google).

If you can, Maybe your DNS is to blame, try http://64.233.161.99

If you get to Google It may be a DNS issue.

wiresalot

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

Pinged 64.233.161.99 successfully (even though she is rubbing my back and telling me that I had better come to dinner.)

What should I change in DNS settings?

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

EUREKA!

I hit Google across the bridge with the direct shot. (http://64.233.161.99)

It has to be a DNS resolution issue. (Doesn't it?)

streaker69 · 04-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

Both NIC's in the routing PC have real world IP's. One is assigned by the ISP (DHCP enabled), the other is the 192.168.0.1 on the local network side. Our ISP makes people pay extra for static IP's.

192.168.x.x is not a 'real world' range. It's what I call the weenie network. But it does not exist out there in the real world internet. It's a private IP network, just like 10.x.x.x and the 172's.

streaker69 · 04-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

EUREKA!

I hit Google across the bridge with the direct shot. (http://64.233.161.99)

It has to be a DNS resolution issue. (Doesn't it?)

Have your DHCP server give out the DNS servers for your ISP to the clients. Make sure that if you have a firewall that it allows Port 53 UDP outbound.

Sleeping Dog · 04-05-2006

that"s It!!!!!!
Done Deal!!!!!
Everything Is Working!!!!!

thanks Guys..........you're All Great!!!!!

I Will Do A Full Write Up On The Exact Dd-wrt Configuration That Is Used On Both Boxes And Post It Tomorrow!!!!!

04-05-2006	#151 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	Both NIC's in the routing PC have real world IP's. One is assigned by the ISP (DHCP enabled), the other is the 192.168.0.1 on the local network side. Our ISP makes people pay extra for static IP's. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-05-2006	#154 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	I might just have to do that if I do a similar permanent setup like this at my place, but I am trying as closely as possible to simulate what is at the farm where this rig will find its permanent home. Besides, I'm learning a lot about this from you good folks. I have also discovered that "Lots of Patients" is the operative term with this project. If I don't get this sucker working right soon, I will probably get to know lots of patients at the mental hospital. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog Last edited by Sleeping Dog : 04-05-2006 at 06:05 PM.

04-05-2006	#155 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	I would do that, Dutch, but like I said before, I am trying to "emulate" what is already in place there... have considered the double CAT-5 option too as I am trying to keep the Hi-gain antennae wires under 5 ft in length. I feel like I'm so darned close to having this working. All pings are getting through now, even over the bridge, except pinging the ISP. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog Last edited by Sleeping Dog : 04-05-2006 at 06:00 PM.

04-05-2006	#158 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	Hot duckety...I'm getting closer. Just for giggles, I added the MAC addresses of both NIC cards to the "allow" list. I reset the WRT #1 to "DHCP enabled" and plugged in the ISP's host and Domain names. I then reset the network address server setting to "DHCP forwarder". I can now ping the ISP address. Still not "on the Internet" yet, but I think I'm getting close. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-05-2006	#159 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	Going to have to take a break. My girlfriend just arrived with dinner... Got to get it while it's hot. That applies to the food too. __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-05-2006	#161 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	Pinged 64.233.161.99 successfully (even though she is rubbing my back and telling me that I had better come to dinner.) What should I change in DNS settings? __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

04-05-2006	#162 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	EUREKA! I hit Google across the bridge with the direct shot. (http://64.233.161.99) It has to be a DNS resolution issue. (Doesn't it?) __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog Last edited by Sleeping Dog : 04-05-2006 at 07:03 PM.

04-05-2006	#165 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	that"s It!!!!!! Done Deal!!!!! Everything Is Working!!!!! thanks Guys..........you're All Great!!!!! I Will Do A Full Write Up On The Exact Dd-wrt Configuration That Is Used On Both Boxes And Post It Tomorrow!!!!! __________________ __________________________________________________ ___________________ Thinking "Outside Of The Bachs" can also keep you from going totally Baroque. __________________________________________________ ___________________ Sleeping Dog

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