Pimp the Barn, with WiFi-bling (Split from : Help with 1 mile network setup!) - Page 4

Dutch · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

PPS

When I first started my research on this project about a month ago, I came across a link on using a collapsable vegetable steamer to make a home-made,variable focus parabolic beam antenna. (photos included). It was quite funny and it occured to me that with a really kicking transmitter, it could still be used to cook vegetables.... wish I had bookmarked it! If someone else finds it again, please forward it to me.

SD

Try to do a search on "Poor Man's WiFi" here on the forums....

Dutch

streaker69 · 03-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

PPS

When I first started my research on this project about a month ago, I came across a link on using a collapsable vegetable steamer to make a home-made,variable focus parabolic beam antenna. (photos included). It was quite funny and it occured to me that with a really kicking transmitter, it could still be used to cook vegetables.... wish I had bookmarked it! If someone else finds it again, please forward it to me.

SD

Parabolic Dish Templates made easy

Try that thread, starting around post #30.

Airstreamer · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

Thanks again Thorn. -Chop-

"A well placed shot from even a 22 is much more effective than a miss with a 44 Magnum."

Regards to All

SD

But I'll 'gear-on-tee' (Damn I wish I had Monitr7s' slang spell ability..) that you don't want to be ANYWHERE NEAR that cylinder/barrel interface when that puppy goes 'bang.'

goldfndr · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

I am now leaning toward the WRT54GS model. It has a faster processor and twice as much RAM as the "G" and they only costs about ten bucks more each. Thanks to the suggestion that I consider the Rootenna instead of the Yagi, I now have that 20 available in the budget.

I don't know if you saw it over there, but the new WRT54GS models have the same limitation as the new WRT54G models - they are based on VxWorks, and there is unlikely to be any 3rd Party flash upgrading for them. Also, keep in mind that flashing your router with 3rd party firmware may void your warranty. Caveat Emptor.

There are, of course, other 3rd party firmwares out there - OpenWRT is what several of us use, although DD-WRT might be friendlier if you're new.

Scruge · 03-09-2006

Speaking of WRT54G, I saw a Fry's Electronic ad a couple of weeks ago stating they had an exclusive deal with Linksys to sell the Linux based WRT54G. Price was $80. I would imagine Fry's online store OutPost.com probably has them as well. The stock number 4703979

theprez98 · 03-09-2006

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Originally Posted by Scruge

Speaking of WRT54G, I saw a Fry's Electronic ad a couple of weeks ago stating they had an exclusive deal with Linksys to sell the Linux based WRT54G. Price was $80. I would imagine Fry's online store OutPost.com probably has them as well.

The Linux version is called the WRT54GL and is the same as the V4.
The WRT54GL is currently available from Amazon.com, priced at $70.

Quote:

Dec. 01, 2005
Linksys last month switched the standard model of its ubiquitous WRT54G wireless router from Linux to VxWorks, starting with the "series 5" version. Now, Linksys is shipping a Linux-based WRT54GL model that it says it created specially for Linux hobbyists, hackers, and aficianados. The L version is identical to the "series 4" WRT54G units that Linux hobbyists have long enjoyed hacking, according to the company.

Scruge · 03-09-2006

If Amazon is selling as well then that doesn't sound like an exclusive to me. I'll have to ask about it the next time I'm in the store.

theprez98 · 03-09-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruge

If Amazon is selling as well then that doesn't sound like an exclusive to me. I'll have to ask about it the next time I'm in the store.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...Fencoding=UTF8
http://shopping.yahoo.com/search;_yl...p=wrt54gl&did=
etc...

Scruge · 03-09-2006

yup, I found several other places selling as well <$65...

Who knows, maybe their "exclusive" was with respect to brick & mortar stores.

SignalSeeker · 03-09-2006

They exclusively had it for too much money.

Justin

beakmyn · 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruge

If Amazon is selling as well then that doesn't sound like an exclusive to me. I'll have to ask about it the next time I'm in the store.

The "exclusive" is that no-one else is selling it at the price of $77.99 Don't you love marketing hype? Kinda like that :10 second timer in informercials to make you thing you've only got 10 seconds before the deal is over. Act now supplies are running out.

Scruge · 03-10-2006

Odds are they will run it on sale for $40-50.

Example.. They've been selling 1gb 60x SD cards for the past few months for $40 after rebate. Last weekend their ad again ran them for $40 after rebate but as a "One day only" sale, as if it were a super low price. Then 2 days later they ran the exact same card for $20.

Sleeping Dog · 03-10-2006

Thanks to all of you for the pricing info.

For this installation, I have decided to go with the GS version (WRT54gs) instead of the GL so that my Sister can more easily admin the system. Though I have the Unix Solaris and Linux training and could probably set up remote admin capabilities, there will be two of these in the system (one at the house and one at the barn) with the house being where the DSL line comes in.
She has a pretty good handle on Windows based apps, so training her to handle the browser admin interface should be easy enough. (You know, 192.168.1.1 then enter the password).

Besides, I would rather talk her through a "fix" on the phone than have to drive 75 miles each way to deal with something minor.

The difference in the WRT54g and gs models is as follows:

The "GS" model contains 32 MB of RAM and 16 MB of flash memory (double the WRT54G series amounts) and has the new Broadcom "AfterBurner" technology which can speed transfers up to 35% according to their testing.

The unit looks identical to the V1.1 and V2 WRT54G models on the outside. The internal circuitry is identical to later G V2 units, though these models have the extra 16 MB of RAM disabled.

Where things can get confusing with these Linksys boxes is:

WRT54G V2.2 and WRT54GS V1.1

These models are identical to the G V2.0 and GS V1.0 models but use a new Broadcom BCM4325 Ethernet controller chip.

V1.0, V1.1, V2.0 and WRT54GS can all use the same Sveasoft firmware**.

The G V2.2 and GS V1.1 models must use Alchemy-60.rc4a or newer firmware.

What I am still a bit fuzzy on is why some sellers refer to this thing as Version 5 (V5). I have yet to find a good explanation of whether they are referring to the hardware itself or the OEM firmware. (Enquiring minds would like to know.)

If I do decide to upgrade to the Sveasoft firmware to get the added control and security features, then the "version" can become a critical issue.

If I can ever get the remodel finished on MY farmhouse, I might consider the Linux version for my own system.

The best prices that I have found so far on the "GS" are through Buy.com and Newegg... 49.99 each with free shipping (after $15 mail in rebate.) I have bought from both before and they are fairly quick and reliable. Besides, they are both in other states and still don't wack me for our 9.25% Tennessee State sales tax. Double the RAM and a faster processor are a pretty good Bang-for-the-buck for only "A Few Dollars More" (my apologies to Clint Eastwood.) One of the computers in the barn will be constantly feeding digitized real time video from the security and birthing stall cameras, so the more speed I can muster out of this setup, the better.

If I recall correctly, one of the axioms of Murphy's Law does state, "The day after you finally buy something, the price will drop by at least 20%."

Cheers and again, many thanks.

Sleeping Dog

Sleeping Dog · 03-10-2006

PS to streaker...

Thanks for the veggie steamer thread reference. It is similar to what I saw a month ago, but the one I saw used one of those steamers that folds in on itself like a 3D version of a camera iris.... original intent being to adjust the steamer to the the inside size of different pans.

SD

beakmyn · 03-10-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleeping Dog

Thanks to all of you for the pricing info.

For this installation, I have decided to go with the GS version (WRT54gs) instead of the GL so that my Sister can more easily admin the system. Though I have the Unix Solaris and Linux training and could probably set up remote admin capabilities, there will be two of these in the system (one at the house and one at the barn) with the house being where the DSL line comes in.
She has a pretty good handle on Windows based apps, so training her to handle the browser admin interface should be easy enough. (You know, 192.168.1.1 then enter the password).

Besides, I would rather talk her through a "fix" on the phone than have to drive 75 miles each way to deal with something minor.

The difference in the WRT54g and gs models is as follows:

The "GS" model contains 32 MB of RAM and 16 MB of flash memory (double the WRT54G series amounts) and has the new Broadcom "AfterBurner" technology which can speed transfers up to 35% according to their testing.

The unit looks identical to the V1.1 and V2 WRT54G models on the outside. The internal circuitry is identical to later G V2 units, though these models have the extra 16 MB of RAM disabled.

Where things can get confusing with these Linksys boxes is:

WRT54G V2.2 and WRT54GS V1.1

These models are identical to the G V2.0 and GS V1.0 models but use a new Broadcom BCM4325 Ethernet controller chip.

V1.0, V1.1, V2.0 and WRT54GS can all use the same Sveasoft firmware**.

The G V2.2 and GS V1.1 models must use Alchemy-60.rc4a or newer firmware.

What I am still a bit fuzzy on is why some sellers refer to this thing as Version 5 (V5). I have yet to find a good explanation of whether they are referring to the hardware itself or the OEM firmware. (Enquiring minds would like to know.)

If I do decide to upgrade to the Sveasoft firmware to get the added control and security features, then the "version" can become a critical issue.

If I can ever get the remodel finished on MY farmhouse, I might consider the Linux version for my own system.

The best prices that I have found so far on the "GS" are through Buy.com and Newegg... 49.99 each with free shipping (after $15 mail in rebate.) I have bought from both before and they are fairly quick and reliable. Besides, they are both in other states and still don't wack me for our 9.25% Tennessee State sales tax. Double the RAM and a faster processor are a pretty good Bang-for-the-buck for only "A Few Dollars More" (my apologies to Clint Eastwood.) One of the computers in the barn will be constantly feeding digitized real time video from the security and birthing stall cameras, so the more speed I can muster out of this setup, the better.

If I recall correctly, one of the axioms of Murphy's Law does state, "The day after you finally buy something, the price will drop by at least 20%."

Cheers and again, many thanks.

Sleeping Dog

Version has VxWorks firmware which is NOT linux and is therefore closed source.

See this page for comparisons Not all GS are built equally
http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.p...showpage&pid=6
You have to go by serial number on the unit. Good luck finding an older model they're getting scarce. I sometimes wonder if Linksys had resellers pull them off the shelf to promote their Linux model.

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Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,355	Speaking of WRT54G, I saw a Fry's Electronic ad a couple of weeks ago stating they had an exclusive deal with Linksys to sell the Linux based WRT54G. Price was $80. I would imagine Fry's online store OutPost.com probably has them as well. The stock number 4703979 Last edited by Scruge : 03-09-2006 at 05:46 PM.

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Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,355	If Amazon is selling as well then that doesn't sound like an exclusive to me. I'll have to ask about it the next time I'm in the store. Last edited by Scruge : 02-11-2007 at 05:47 PM.

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03-09-2006	#54 (permalink)
Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,355	yup, I found several other places selling as well <$65... Who knows, maybe their "exclusive" was with respect to brick & mortar stores.

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SignalSeeker Badger in heat Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 414	They exclusively had it for too much money. Justin

03-10-2006	#57 (permalink)
Scruge Nyuk nyuk! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: TX Posts: 1,355	Odds are they will run it on sale for $40-50. Example.. They've been selling 1gb 60x SD cards for the past few months for $40 after rebate. Last weekend their ad again ran them for $40 after rebate but as a "One day only" sale, as if it were a super low price. Then 2 days later they ran the exact same card for $20.

03-10-2006	#58 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	Thanks to all of you for the pricing info. For this installation, I have decided to go with the GS version (WRT54gs) instead of the GL so that my Sister can more easily admin the system. Though I have the Unix Solaris and Linux training and could probably set up remote admin capabilities, there will be two of these in the system (one at the house and one at the barn) with the house being where the DSL line comes in. She has a pretty good handle on Windows based apps, so training her to handle the browser admin interface should be easy enough. (You know, 192.168.1.1 then enter the password). Besides, I would rather talk her through a "fix" on the phone than have to drive 75 miles each way to deal with something minor. The difference in the WRT54g and gs models is as follows: The "GS" model contains 32 MB of RAM and 16 MB of flash memory (double the WRT54G series amounts) and has the new Broadcom "AfterBurner" technology which can speed transfers up to 35% according to their testing. The unit looks identical to the V1.1 and V2 WRT54G models on the outside. The internal circuitry is identical to later G V2 units, though these models have the extra 16 MB of RAM disabled. Where things can get confusing with these Linksys boxes is: WRT54G V2.2 and WRT54GS V1.1 These models are identical to the G V2.0 and GS V1.0 models but use a new Broadcom BCM4325 Ethernet controller chip. V1.0, V1.1, V2.0 and WRT54GS can all use the same Sveasoft firmware**. The G V2.2 and GS V1.1 models must use Alchemy-60.rc4a or newer firmware. What I am still a bit fuzzy on is why some sellers refer to this thing as Version 5 (V5). I have yet to find a good explanation of whether they are referring to the hardware itself or the OEM firmware. (Enquiring minds would like to know.) If I do decide to upgrade to the Sveasoft firmware to get the added control and security features, then the "version" can become a critical issue. If I can ever get the remodel finished on MY farmhouse, I might consider the Linux version for my own system. The best prices that I have found so far on the "GS" are through Buy.com and Newegg... 49.99 each with free shipping (after $15 mail in rebate.) I have bought from both before and they are fairly quick and reliable. Besides, they are both in other states and still don't wack me for our 9.25% Tennessee State sales tax. Double the RAM and a faster processor are a pretty good Bang-for-the-buck for only "A Few Dollars More" (my apologies to Clint Eastwood.) One of the computers in the barn will be constantly feeding digitized real time video from the security and birthing stall cameras, so the more speed I can muster out of this setup, the better. If I recall correctly, one of the axioms of Murphy's Law does state, "The day after you finally buy something, the price will drop by at least 20%." Cheers and again, many thanks. Sleeping Dog

03-10-2006	#59 (permalink)
Sleeping Dog Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 76	PS to streaker... Thanks for the veggie steamer thread reference. It is similar to what I saw a month ago, but the one I saw used one of those steamers that folds in on itself like a 3D version of a camera iris.... original intent being to adjust the steamer to the the inside size of different pans. SD