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02-26-2002
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Best war-walking setup?
Here is my situation
i need something ultra portable and ultra capable to do on the fly audits of cleints WLAN setups. It seems that ministumbler paired with somesort of gps system is the favorite around here. I am looking into an ipaq 3850 or 3870. With a cisco 350 aironet adapter. I have seen the dual pcmcia adapters for the ipaqs. My questions are as follows will a gps unit and a wireless card fit on the dual pcmcia adapter? Does ministubler have any sort of audible alerting capabilities? Allso does it have any sort of plugin sdk's avalible? (lets say if i wanted to develop my own gps mapping solution, and wanted to integrrate it) Are there any worth while pocket PC GPS mapping solutions (looking for route tracking, waypointing, etc) Does anyone know of an all in one linux solution (going out on a limb here) any and all help is much appreciated. I have read up somewhat on x386 based solutions i just dont know how arm based stuff works. |
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02-26-2002
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You'll still need an Orinoco (or comatible) card for MiniStumbler. It's basically the same as NetStumbler just tweaked (seriously tweaked
 for the smaller computer.I haven't done GPS. Audible alerts are there - just put a sound file named ir_begin in the same directory that ministrumbler is in. No personal experiece with your mapping/gps questions. There is a linux build for the ipaq and there's a jave sniffer for that. There is a CEsniffer for the Ipaq that works really well. It costs $249 I believe. That somewhat addresses your 'other tools' question. |
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02-26-2002
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GPS thoughts and iPaq
I think you will run into a problem here. Both the Orinoco and all GPS cards I have seen, have bulges at the end. So I don't think they will both fit in the expansion pack at the same time. I think your bast bet is going with a garmin unit.
I will be ordering the parts I need later this week to connect my E-Map to my 3870. I am planning on one cable that plugs into the 3870 on one end, and the emap on the other. Anyone out there with what a useful length of wire should be? Thanks Dave |
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02-26-2002
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The setup I have that would accomplish your goal is this:
Hardware: Compaq iPAQ 3650 (a 38xx would work as well) Compaq *single* PCMCIA sleeve Compaq serial cable, P/N 236250-001 Garmin eMap (on sale recently at frys for $169, back to $299 now) Orinoco Silver card (with slightly 'outdated' firmware, see below) Software: MiniStumbler CEniffer (packet sniffer, works in promiscous mode if you have an Orinoco with slightly outdated firmware) vxUtil (ping, tracert, etc) PocketLAN This setup works very nicely for what you are trying to do. The one downside is that the cable setup is a bit bulky ( I hate the ipaq serial interface, it feels like it will come out with the slightest pressure- but it works and I don't need a dual PCMCIA sleeve... JDM |
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02-27-2002
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GPS and IPAQ -- a solution.
I'm really leery about using a serial-connected GPS on the iPaq in this application -- I have a GPS-16 for my laptop 'stumbler rig, but I can run that off the laptop's battery and the cabling isn't a big deal.
There are GPS products that can be powered from the PDA, reducing your battery life. http://www.teletype.com/pages/gps/compatibility.html Yes, most of the laptop GPS products have a 'bulge' that would present a problem. One of the CF GPS cards would be perfect if you add a "long neck" CF adapter that would also provide some extension to get the antenna bulge of the GPS antenna beyond the antenna bulge of the WLAN card. Something like this? http://www.sycard.com/cf162.html |
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02-27-2002
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Why invent the wheel twice?
there is a much better Compact Flash to PCMCIA Mod on Dale Coffing´s side (www.pocketpcpassion.com), there are also some other good ideas for pocketpc´s and windows CE devices. so take a look! there are e.g. some good ideas for external batterypacks or to build smaller PCMCIA jackets for the ipaq and do not only read the postings about the ipaq there are also some useful Casio tips i´m shure you could use it for your ipaq, too :-) here is a direct link to that CF->PCMCIA mod: http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/Casio/RalphL/CassieCompanion.htm cu AssetBurned |
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02-27-2002
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no no no. He has an IPAQ (not a casio). He doesn't need that mod. He was going to use CF to save space. You can't have a GPS card and the WaveLAN card in at the same time because of the antennas at the ends. He HAS a PCMCIA slot.
I have a Casio E-115 and a couple different CF to PCMCIA adapters and they're all clumsy. I'm waiting on a buddy of mine at Orinoco to give me the dirt on a possible CF card coming out. That's right, you heard it hear first but it's not confirmed. There may be a CF version of the Orinoco WaveLAN card coming out soon that uses the already available drivers. He said it would also have the antenna jack at the end of the card. OH BOY OH BOY!!!!!!! More when I find out. -Mc |
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02-28-2002
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@McHale
he would use the CF->pcmcia adapter do get more space between the 2 cards so he could use it like that: pcmcia-jacket -> pcmcia-cf-adapter cf-pcmcia-adapter -> pcmcia GPS card and a wlan card directly in the jacket. or did i understand something wrong? btw. i opend my tekram CF-WLAN card and there is a place for a connector on it, so i think all "Z-COM XI-800" and there resellers have it (e.g. that one from casio have it already!) the main problem is that all CF wlan cards are prism 2 or 2.5 :-( |
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02-28-2002
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Need to offset the GPS antenna from Orinoco antenna
"he would use the CF->pcmcia adapter do get more space between the 2 cards so he could use it like that:
pcmcia-jacket -> pcmcia-cf-adapter cf-pcmcia-adapter -> pcmcia GPS card and a wlan card directly in the jacket. " Exactly. I have the 'dual PCMCIA sleeve', primarily because I wanted the extra battery power to drive a Cisco WLAN card (100 mW) for longer periods. With an extended PCMCIA->CF adapter or by stacking adapters, it should be possible to get the antenna of the second card to clear the other antenna, and put the two cards together into the dual PCMCIA sleeve. Let's try some ASCII art: ######### ###GPS### ######### %%%%%%%%% %%802.11% %%%%%%%%% @@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@.@@ @@@@@@@@@@@ @@ IPAQ! @@ @@ IPAQ! @@ @@ IPAQ! @@ @@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@/-\@@@@ @@@@\_/@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@ |
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03-01-2002
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nope. My fault. I just read it that he was looking to use a dual PCMCIA sleeve and was going to use the PCMCIA to CF adapter to conserve on protruding space. The post on PocketPCPassion uses a PCMCIA to CF adapter. I simply jumped to a wrong conclusion.
Sorry about that! -Mc |
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