Viewsonic 100 PDA w/ CE 3.00 Build 260

stumble_butt · 07-08-2002

It seems most threads asking for info on CE go unanswered here. I searched the forums and nada! Got a new Viewsonic PDA with CE 3.00 on it. Anyone know whether this will work with Mini-NS??

I guess I could wait for the Viewsonic Tablet with W2K to show up but it would be sweet if the PDA could do the job now. The large touchscreen on the PDA would be super for W-driving.

Thunderforge · 07-08-2002

SB

Do you know if the ViewPad 1000 has a port for an external antenna? From the specs I have looked at it doesn't appear so, but I haven't seen the tablet in person yet to know for sure.

As for if it will work on CE, the only reference I know of is in the FAQ on the main section of the NetStumbler Site site where the question was asked:

Q: Will this be ported to Windows CE?
A: If you send me a suitable system, I'll be happy to port it at my leisure (and return the unit to you!).

c-mag · 07-08-2002

Hmm... It has an ARM processor and a type II PC card slot so you can always stick any PC card-based wireless nic you want in there. I'm sure Ministumbler will run on it as it is an arm processor. It's a free download so there's no harm in trying.

lincomatic · 07-08-2002

but if it's running plain CE w/o the PocketPC extensions it probably won't work.

Thunderforge · 07-08-2002

The Viewsonic PDA is an ARM processor, but the ViewPad 1000 is a Celeron 800MHz running W2K Pro, so it will have to be NS instead of MS, but yes the PCCARD slot would solve that problem, was just hoping to be able to utilize the built in 802.11b mini PCI rather than scrap it and use a card.

stumble_butt · 07-08-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Thunderforge
SB

Do you know if the ViewPad 1000 has a port for an external antenna? From the specs I have looked at it doesn't appear so, but I haven't seen the tablet in person yet to know for sure.

What I have in my posession is the Viewsonic ViewPad 100. I have the Tablet (Model 1000) on order. Neither to the best of my knowledge have external antennas.

We are evaluating these devices for purchase. My "evaluation" of the 1000 will require installing NS on it.

jeffrowe · 07-08-2002

I woudl say its a 100% chance that you will need to open the unit and add a pigtail of some kind to allow for ext ent connections.

If you wish to use the internal Card (and the card is Heremes Based) then internally you will either have a PCCARD with the standard LUCENT pigtail connections to the internal antenna. Otherwise it will be a MINIPCI card with the Snap on Button Connectors, which are not too complicated to remove but getting a pigtail to ext connector will be hard as hell...

here is a link to soem info I foudn on the lucent type care most likely to be used...

http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...ight=connector

Second Post in is the info...

Thunderforge · 07-09-2002

The specs on the 1000 confirms it is the MiniPCI card.

Regarding the question on CE 3.0 again, Microsoft's Site lists Windows CE 3.0 as being Pocket PC.

Linc was there a version of CE 3.0 released that wasn't Pocket PC (i.e. using the Pocekt PC extensions)?

lincomatic · 07-09-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Thunderforge
The specs on the 1000 confirms it is the MiniPCI card.

Regarding the question on CE 3.0 again, Microsoft's Site lists Windoes CE 3.0 as being Pocket PC.

Linc was there a version of CE 3.0 released that wasn't Pocket PC (i.e. using the Pocekt PC extensions)?

the HPC Pro 2000 is CE3.0 too, but not PocketPC.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...xml&frame=true

i think the casio BE-200 is also CE3.0.

if it's the miniPCI orinoco it'll work w/ the XP drivers.

stumble_butt · 07-09-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by lincomatic

the HPC Pro 2000 is CE3.0 too, but not PocketPC.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...xml&frame=true

i think the casio BE-200 is also CE3.0.

if it's the miniPCI orinoco it'll work w/ the XP drivers.

Well the Viewsonic 100 PDA is CE 3.00 and Mini-NS will NOT run on it. All CE 3.0 must not = Pocket PC

lincomatic · 07-09-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by stumble_butt

Well the Viewsonic 100 PDA is CE 3.00 and Mini-NS will NOT run on it. All CE 3.0 must not = Pocket PC

man i am getting mixed up in this thread. i was trying to say ministumbler won't run on CE3.0 that's not PPC...i.e. the PDA.

i thought the miniPCI card was on the XP tablet...so one would run NS on it instead.

stumble_butt · 07-09-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by lincomatic

man i am getting mixed up in this thread. i was trying to say ministumbler won't run on CE3.0 that's not PPC...i.e. the PDA.

i thought the miniPCI card was on the XP tablet...so one would run NS on it instead.

On the Viewsonic 1000 Tbalet PC it is W2K in which case I have every expectation to be able to run Mini-NS.

lincomatic · 07-09-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by stumble_butt

On the Viewsonic 1000 Tbalet PC it is W2K in which case I have every expectation to be able to run Mini-NS.

?? in W2K you would use NS instead of MS...MS is for PPC's.

Thunderforge · 07-10-2002

Ok, recap for clarity time.

Viewsonic ViewPad 100 is an ARM based PDA running WinCE3.0 (non-PPC) MS is NOT supported.
Viewsonic ViewPad 1000 is a Celeron based touchpad running W2K with a built-in MiniPCI (assumed Agere) 802.11b card. NS should be supported.

Both units require the use of a standard card in order to use an external antenna. Modifications on the unit MAY be possible. (Not if I'm paying the dime.)

Pocket PC is considered WinCE 3.0, but not all WinCE 3.0 PDA's are Pocket PCs.

Anything I miss?

lincomatic · 07-10-2002

couldn't have said it better myself

07-08-2002	#1 (permalink)
stumble_butt Good Lookin Old Geezer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Ether Posts: 103	Viewsonic 100 PDA w/ CE 3.00 Build 260 It seems most threads asking for info on CE go unanswered here. I searched the forums and nada! Got a new Viewsonic PDA with CE 3.00 on it. Anyone know whether this will work with Mini-NS?? I guess I could wait for the Viewsonic Tablet with W2K to show up but it would be sweet if the PDA could do the job now. The large touchscreen on the PDA would be super for W-driving. __________________ Marius -- You ' Da Man

07-08-2002	#2 (permalink)
Thunderforge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 342	ViewPad 1000 SB Do you know if the ViewPad 1000 has a port for an external antenna? From the specs I have looked at it doesn't appear so, but I haven't seen the tablet in person yet to know for sure. As for if it will work on CE, the only reference I know of is in the FAQ on the main section of the NetStumbler Site site where the question was asked: Q: Will this be ported to Windows CE? A: If you send me a suitable system, I'll be happy to port it at my leisure (and return the unit to you!). __________________ Back to the forge, TF

07-08-2002	#3 (permalink)
c-mag Onomatostumbler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Golden, BC, Canada Posts: 627	Hmm... It has an ARM processor and a type II PC card slot so you can always stick any PC card-based wireless nic you want in there. I'm sure Ministumbler will run on it as it is an arm processor. It's a free download so there's no harm in trying. __________________ Stumblematopoeia!

07-08-2002	#4 (permalink)
lincomatic Squaaawk! WiFi! WiFi! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tinsel Town Posts: 1,682	but if it's running plain CE w/o the PocketPC extensions it probably won't work. __________________ ~lincomatic

07-08-2002	#5 (permalink)
Thunderforge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 342	Allow me to clarify The Viewsonic PDA is an ARM processor, but the ViewPad 1000 is a Celeron 800MHz running W2K Pro, so it will have to be NS instead of MS, but yes the PCCARD slot would solve that problem, was just hoping to be able to utilize the built in 802.11b mini PCI rather than scrap it and use a card. __________________ Back to the forge, TF

07-08-2002	#7 (permalink)
jeffrowe Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern Suburbs, Chicago, IL Posts: 142	its almost guaranteed I woudl say its a 100% chance that you will need to open the unit and add a pigtail of some kind to allow for ext ent connections. If you wish to use the internal Card (and the card is Heremes Based) then internally you will either have a PCCARD with the standard LUCENT pigtail connections to the internal antenna. Otherwise it will be a MINIPCI card with the Snap on Button Connectors, which are not too complicated to remove but getting a pigtail to ext connector will be hard as hell... here is a link to soem info I foudn on the lucent type care most likely to be used... http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...ight=connector Second Post in is the info... __________________ -Jeffrowe

07-09-2002	#8 (permalink)
Thunderforge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 342	The specs on the 1000 confirms it is the MiniPCI card. Regarding the question on CE 3.0 again, Microsoft's Site lists Windows CE 3.0 as being Pocket PC. Linc was there a version of CE 3.0 released that wasn't Pocket PC (i.e. using the Pocekt PC extensions)? __________________ Back to the forge, TF Last edited by Thunderforge : 07-10-2002 at 10:11 AM.

07-10-2002	#14 (permalink)
Thunderforge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 342	Thread Recap Ok, recap for clarity time. Viewsonic ViewPad 100 is an ARM based PDA running WinCE3.0 (non-PPC) MS is NOT supported. Viewsonic ViewPad 1000 is a Celeron based touchpad running W2K with a built-in MiniPCI (assumed Agere) 802.11b card. NS should be supported. Both units require the use of a standard card in order to use an external antenna. Modifications on the unit MAY be possible. (Not if I'm paying the dime.) Pocket PC is considered WinCE 3.0, but not all WinCE 3.0 PDA's are Pocket PCs. Anything I miss? __________________ Back to the forge, TF

07-10-2002	#15 (permalink)
lincomatic Squaaawk! WiFi! WiFi! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tinsel Town Posts: 1,682	right on the $$ couldn't have said it better myself __________________ ~lincomatic

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