54mbps VS 108mbps

cmavr8 · 05-15-2004

Hello readers.

I am about to buy a pci and a pcimcia cards. I will buy either 54 or 108mbps.

The distance between the cards will be large.

Logically the greater the "starter-named speed" is the larger the real speed and the velocity will be. so it is better to buy an 108 than a 54.

but a friend of mine (he works for intel) told me that the 108 model will need greater signal strength than the 54, so for this great distance it would be better to buy the 54 models than the 108s.

what is your opinion? please if you can do not refer to complex formulas and experts' language cause I know many of you are technicians and I am not...

so plz help..

thank you even for the time you spent to read so far..

Madhadder · 05-15-2004

Get an 802.11G card and be happy....

Even if you do get a 108mb card, you must be very close to the AP
and have a super strong signal. So most of the time you won't get a 108mb
connection.

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speed" is the larger the real speed and the velocity will be

As far as I know Velocity has nothing to do with the speed of your wireless
conn. as all radio waves move a the same speed.

Thorn · 05-15-2004

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Originally Posted by cmavr8

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The distance between the cards will be large. ...

Define "large." If you're expecting this to work a 108mps over a 15 mile radius, forget it right now. If you think "large" is several thousand square feet, or perhaps an acre or two, it might be something possible to do.

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Originally Posted by cmavr8

... Logically the greater the "starter-named speed" is the larger the real speed and the velocity will be. so it is better to buy an 108 than a 54. ...

Not always. Besides, the 108mps rated equipment is usually proprietary. Not a smart move, unless you expect not never add any other brand of equipment.

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Originally Posted by cmavr8

...
but a friend of mine (he works for intel) told me that the 108 model will need greater signal strength than the 54, so for this great distance it would be better to buy the 54 models than the 108s. ...

This is generally true, but it depends on the distance, and other factors.

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Originally Posted by cmavr8

... what is your opinion? please if you can do not refer to complex formulas and experts' language cause I know many of you are technicians and I am not...

Like it or not this stuff involves math, and it IS technical. We also don't tend to spoonfeed people. If you expect us to design the system, forget it. If you want pointers to help with your design, then that's what you'll get. It is also pretty hard to describe some of this stuff without the techical names. Again, we can give you pointers on were to look.

Besides, the math isn't that hard. If you graduated from the average high school you should be able to do it. It's simple stuff: some algerbra, some trigonometry, some geometry.

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Originally Posted by cmavr8

so plz help..

thank you even for the time you spent to read so far..

You're welcome. (By the way, AOL talk ("plz") and a lack of capitalization will only convince people that you're not worth helping.)

dgstinner · 05-15-2004

According to this article on TechTV the 108Mbps speed most likely comes from channel bonding where multiple channels are combined to get a faster throughput. It's very similar how back in the days of dialup, you could use 2 modems to get a faster download by combining them together. The problem with channel bonding is that any neighbors that have wireless will be affected. They also go on to say that Linksys' Speedbooster technology won't interfere.

cmavr8 · 05-17-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorn

Define "large." If you're expecting this to work a 108mps over a 15 mile radius, forget it right now. If you think "large" is several thousand square feet, or perhaps an acre or two, it might be something possible to do.

Not always. Besides, the 108mps rated equipment is usually proprietary. Not a smart move, unless you expect not never add any other brand of equipment.

This is generally true, but it depends on the distance, and other factors.

Like it or not this stuff involves math, and it IS technical. We also don't tend to spoonfeed people. If you expect us to design the system, forget it. If you want pointers to help with your design, then that's what you'll get. It is also pretty hard to describe some of this stuff without the techical names. Again, we can give you pointers on were to look.

Besides, the math isn't that hard. If you graduated from the average high school you should be able to do it. It's simple stuff: some algerbra, some trigonometry, some geometry.

You're welcome. (By the way, AOL talk ("plz") and a lack of capitalization will only convince people that you're not worth helping.)

hi again, and thanks for the answers...

my pc was broken so I couldn't reply(I now write from another partition...)

1.by large I mean 300meters

2."Not always. Besides, the 108mps rated equipment is usually proprietary. Not a smart move, unless you expect not never add any other brand of equipment."

what do you mean by proprietary?

3.and I don't use aol, I just say plz to buy some time, that's all (although thanks for the advice...!)

G8tK33per · 05-17-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmavr8

hi again, and thanks for the answers...

my pc was broken so I couldn't reply(I now write from another partition...)

1.by large I mean 300meters

2."Not always. Besides, the 108mps rated equipment is usually proprietary. Not a smart move, unless you expect not never add any other brand of equipment."

what do you mean by proprietary?

3.and I don't use aol, I just say plz to buy some time, that's all (although thanks for the advice...!)

The evidence of uselessness continues...TardTyping.

Redman247 · 05-17-2004

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Originally Posted by cmavr8

what do you mean by proprietary?

He means that one manufacturers 54Mbps card will not work with a different manufacturers card to produce 108Mbps. You will need to buy your AP (Access Point) and card('s) from the same manufacture to achieve 108Mbs, otherwise you will have to drop down to 54Mbps regardless of the cards capability to go faster.

Short and sweet: If you want 108Mbps be prepared to buy only one name brand of networking equipment for that wireless network.

Thorn · 05-17-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmavr8

1.by large I mean 300meters ...

That is size are is possible, alhough I wouldn't expect much beyond 1mps at the edges, depending on the WLAN design. To achive higher speeds, you will need to have multiple APs dispersed throughout the area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmavr8

2."Not always. Besides, the 108mps rated equipment is usually proprietary. Not a smart move, unless you expect not never add any other brand of equipment."

what do you mean by proprietary? ...

Exactly what Redman247 said. (Thanks, Redman247!)

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Originally Posted by cmavr8

3.and I don't use aol, I just say plz to buy some time, that's all (although thanks for the advice...!)

It doesn't matter whether or not you use AOL or not, it's the moronic abuse of the English language that is exemplified by AOL users. Specifically, things such as not properly capitalizing and shortening words like "please" to "plz."

sparafina · 05-17-2004

You should also consider how you use the network.

Are you going to use it for internet primarily or are you moving large files between devices? It you use it for surfing, email, and moderately sized downloads then 54mbps is probably much faster than your internet connection. If you are moving large files between devices or do gigabit downloads on an hourly basis then you probably want to get the fastest transfer rates possible. Of course twisted pair is faster and cheaper for that sort network usage.

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05-15-2004	#4 (permalink)
dgstinner Wardriver in Jersey Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 99	According to this article on TechTV the 108Mbps speed most likely comes from channel bonding where multiple channels are combined to get a faster throughput. It's very similar how back in the days of dialup, you could use 2 modems to get a faster download by combining them together. The problem with channel bonding is that any neighbors that have wireless will be affected. They also go on to say that Linksys' Speedbooster technology won't interfere.

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sparafina Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: TX,MD,NY Posts: 1,430	You should also consider how you use the network. Are you going to use it for internet primarily or are you moving large files between devices? It you use it for surfing, email, and moderately sized downloads then 54mbps is probably much faster than your internet connection. If you are moving large files between devices or do gigabit downloads on an hourly basis then you probably want to get the fastest transfer rates possible. Of course twisted pair is faster and cheaper for that sort network usage.