About to order my setup...any suggestions?

fletch · 09-30-2002

from fab corp:

Agere / Lucent ORiNOCO Wireless PC Silver Card 77.59 1 77.59
60 inch ORiNOCO/Avaya to N-Male Pigtail 23.00 1 23.00

now for the antenna...
5 dBi Magnetic Mount Omni Antenna 69.95 1 69.95
-or-
9 dBi Omni Directional Antenna 85.00 1 85.00

and from deluo.com..
GPS for PC/Laptop (USB) - $99

i'm very new to stumbling/wardriving...i really like the idea of the smaller antenna and being able to mount it with a magnet and stuff...but how much of a performance increase will i be seeing with the 9dBi larger antenna?

is that the right pigtail adapter?

i'll most likely also be buying a dell lattitude c600 -> p3 750, 256mb, 6gb, 14", etc for $500.

how good to you think this setup will perform for being < $800?

what do you guys think?

cosmocks · 09-30-2002

I'm just getting started too. Here's my setup so far.

Dell Inspiron 2650 (to be used for school mainly, net stumbling is a bonus)

1.7 gig P4
256 MB Ram

Orinoco Silver-----------------------------
12" Pigtail for Orinoco card-------------
5 dbi MagMount from Fab-corp--------$179.00 total
Garmin eTrex from academy $99

To get items:

DC to AC converter for car. 300 watt.
Windsheild mount for GPS

I think that's all I can think of.

fletch · 09-30-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by cosmocks
I'm just getting started too. Here's my setup so far.

Dell Inspiron 2650 (to be used for school mainly, net stumbling is a bonus)
1.7 gig P4

256 MB Ram

Orinoco Silver-----------------------------
12" Pigtail for Orinoco card-------------
5 dbi MagMount from Fab-corp--------$179.00 total
Garmin eTrex from academy $99

To get items:
DC to AC converter for car. 300 watt.

Windsheild mount for GPS

I think that's all I can think of.

what's the DC to AC converter for? (sorry if i sound retarded, i'm teh newb!)

godsmoke · 09-30-2002

Well, for laptops that don't have the battery life of mine (Apple PowerBook g4), and when you go on wardrives longer than your battery can handle, you'll need power ... from your car is the best way. Also if you are using other things that need power (some GPSs)

good luck with the new setup!

Eyecannon · 09-30-2002

I wouldn't get a 60" pigtail if I were you...

fletch · 09-30-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by godsmoke
Well, for laptops that don't have the battery life of mine (Apple PowerBook g4), and when you go on wardrives longer than your battery can handle, you'll need power ... from your car is the best way. Also if you are using other things that need power (some GPSs)

good luck with the new setup!

how do i know which converter i need?

godsmoke · 09-30-2002

Yeah, long pigtails are usually a very bad idea, the reason: the cable used in pigtails losses lots of signal, much more than for example the cable used on your antenna. A 12" or even smaller pigtail would be much more appropriate.

fletch · 09-30-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by godsmoke
Yeah, long pigtails are usually a very bad idea, the reason: the cable used in pigtails losses lots of signal, much more than for example the cable used on your antenna. A 12" or even smaller pigtail would be much more appropriate.

ok, here's the new setup:

Agere / Lucent ORiNOCO Wireless PC Silver Card 77.59 1 77.59
19 inch ORiNOCO/Avaya to N-Female Pigtail 22.00 1 22.00
5 dBi Magnetic Mount Omni Antenna 69.95 1 69.95
Total: 169.54

i'm confused, do i need the male or the female pigtail? and the stumbler special applies to this doesn't it?

astcell · 09-30-2002

How hard would it be to make a connector using the two ends of the pigtail with NO cable in between? Just have a converter and maybe make it connect to the Orinoco card directly and stick somehow. THAT would be cool.

Optikillusion · 09-30-2002

You want the O/A to N-MALE connector if your connecting it to the omni. Make sure to put "please apply the STUMBLER specials" in the "other comments" box when you order.

fletch · 09-30-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Optikillusion
You want the O/A to N-MALE connector if your connecting it to the omni. Make sure to put "please apply the STUMBLER specials" in the "other comments" box when you order.

oh, ok, thanks!

fletch · 09-30-2002

also, do you think i'll have good results with this setup?

Eyecannon · 10-01-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by fletch
also, do you think i'll have good results with this setup?

That's the same setup I have, I and get good results.

RDMac · 10-01-2002

My Silver card (branded as Enterasys RoamAbout DS11)

links directly to my antenna (no pigtail) - but this antenna is not a mag mount and it's only 5dbi and sits in my back window (less obvious) .. you could glue a magnet on

$69

http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/...sp?dpno=839847

Get a good card in the first place.

On your previous question about power, inverters are cool, bit bulky though ... http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=122782

09-30-2002	#1 (permalink)
fletch Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: pleasanton, ca Posts: 47	About to order my setup...any suggestions? from fab corp: Agere / Lucent ORiNOCO Wireless PC Silver Card 77.59 1 77.59 60 inch ORiNOCO/Avaya to N-Male Pigtail 23.00 1 23.00 now for the antenna... 5 dBi Magnetic Mount Omni Antenna 69.95 1 69.95 -or- 9 dBi Omni Directional Antenna 85.00 1 85.00 and from deluo.com.. GPS for PC/Laptop (USB) - $99 i'm very new to stumbling/wardriving...i really like the idea of the smaller antenna and being able to mount it with a magnet and stuff...but how much of a performance increase will i be seeing with the 9dBi larger antenna? is that the right pigtail adapter? i'll most likely also be buying a dell lattitude c600 -> p3 750, 256mb, 6gb, 14", etc for $500. how good to you think this setup will perform for being < $800? what do you guys think?

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godsmoke Student / Sys Admn. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 78	Well, for laptops that don't have the battery life of mine (Apple PowerBook g4), and when you go on wardrives longer than your battery can handle, you'll need power ... from your car is the best way. Also if you are using other things that need power (some GPSs) good luck with the new setup! __________________ -godsmoke

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Eyecannon Ward River Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Santa Monix Posts: 679	I wouldn't get a 60" pigtail if I were you... __________________ No, officer, YOU are under arrest! http://eyecannon.com/wardrive.html

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godsmoke Student / Sys Admn. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NYC, USA Posts: 78	Yeah, long pigtails are usually a very bad idea, the reason: the cable used in pigtails losses lots of signal, much more than for example the cable used on your antenna. A 12" or even smaller pigtail would be much more appropriate. __________________ -godsmoke

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09-30-2002	#2 (permalink)
cosmocks Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Antonio Posts: 28	I'm just getting started too. Here's my setup so far. Dell Inspiron 2650 (to be used for school mainly, net stumbling is a bonus) 1.7 gig P4 256 MB Ram Orinoco Silver----------------------------- 12" Pigtail for Orinoco card------------- 5 dbi MagMount from Fab-corp--------$179.00 total Garmin eTrex from academy $99 To get items: DC to AC converter for car. 300 watt. Windsheild mount for GPS I think that's all I can think of.

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astcell Stumbling Stumbler Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Southern CA Posts: 589	How hard would it be to make a connector using the two ends of the pigtail with NO cable in between? Just have a converter and maybe make it connect to the Orinoco card directly and stick somehow. THAT would be cool.

09-30-2002	#10 (permalink)
Optikillusion Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida, on the Bayou! Posts: 21	You want the O/A to N-MALE connector if your connecting it to the omni. Make sure to put "please apply the STUMBLER specials" in the "other comments" box when you order.

09-30-2002	#12 (permalink)
fletch Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: pleasanton, ca Posts: 47	also, do you think i'll have good results with this setup?

10-01-2002	#14 (permalink)
RDMac Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 6	My Silver card (branded as Enterasys RoamAbout DS11) links directly to my antenna (no pigtail) - but this antenna is not a mag mount and it's only 5dbi and sits in my back window (less obvious) .. you could glue a magnet on $69 http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/...sp?dpno=839847 Get a good card in the first place. On your previous question about power, inverters are cool, bit bulky though ... http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProdu...duct_Id=122782