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Pirate555
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: So. Calif.
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Friends...
I purchased two of these AIRLINK 101 ASB-7MA ANTENNAS some weeks ago and while Airlink claims +7 dBi Gain, I saw no real improvement at all over the stock antennas on my Routers, laptop or remote PCI card. The AIRLINK ASB-7MA ANTENNA is rated for 2.4~2.4835 Ghz and 360 degree operation. If it's just a vertical wire in the air, I can agree it is 360 degrees. Airlink also specifies a beam width of 40 degrees. This Antenna is supplied with a 100 cm length of RG178 coax. It didn't matter where I placed the antenna, the signals looked almost the same and never approached 100%. I will attempt to upload a photo of the actual antenna itself. As you can see, the antenna actually has a total 7 1/2" to it and it is just copper wire. How Airlink claims +7 dBi of gain is beyond me. I expected at least a printed circuit board antenna, but noooooo... it's just a basic 'spike' antenna. I was going to return the Antennas, but could not find the receipt. So they would not be a total loss, I took one of the antennas apart for the pigtail, but alas, it is a "Reverse SMA" connector. I didn't notice that until I attached a adaptor to the pigtail and saw zero signal to my modified WPC11 Wireless card. After I changed out the RG174 coax with a real SMA connector, my WPC11 card came to life! Frys sells this AIRLINK ASB-7MA ANTENNA for $19.95 plus tax. The box states, "Increases Range and Speed!", but I sure didn't experience that at all. On a scale of 1 to 10, I would say ~ save your money. Pirate555 Last edited by Pirate555 : 04-06-2006 at 03:23 PM. Reason: Add photo |
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Sniffin' the aether
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: A little North of Reason
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Pirate555
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: So. Calif.
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But it may as well have been made from a coat hanger. Pirate555 |
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Sniffin' the aether
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: A little North of Reason
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Pirate555
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: So. Calif.
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I look for form, function and fit.
It's form is as I described in my post. If the antenna HAD some type of yagi or 'J' etched on a board I could understand a +7dBi claim. As for function I saw no significant improvement over the stock antennas. To me +7dBi gain means this: +3db doubles the power and another +3db doubles the power again. I saw nothing in practice and application of that specific antenna that would agree with that formula. While I did not use actual lab equipment to measure that promised gain, I can sure read a signal strength meter provided by D-Link and my computers. Sure there no critical scale provided, but if the antenna provided a true and honest +7dBi of gain, I should have seen the signal improve accordingly and I did not. And fit, no, I would not invest another $40+ for junk like this because it sure didn't meet my needs and I don't need another hank of coax and clunky antenna kicking around when there was no real improvement over the stock antennas. Manufactures can make fantastic claims, but for me the bottom line is performance. My coat hanger comment was just that. Yes, there is a difference in copper and a coat hanger, but both make a crappy antenna in this configuration. I did notice that Frys had quite a few boxes with 'return' stickers on this same antenna. Gee, could it be that others had the same experience? Have a great day. Pirate555 [I would suggest you do a bit of research on antenna theory before spouting off crap like that. Because the design wasn't a PC board has NOTHING to do with the characteristics of the antenna. It is 'just a piece of wire' alright, but it is FORMED in a particular way that effects the RF properties in various ways. Just because YOU see no "100%" reception doesn't mean squat. There are MANY other variables that you are not accounting for.] |
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I amuse you?
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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I am invoking the 'Law of Illogical Argument'
Most likely the device is qualified by the FCC and as such you can probably get a copy of the testing specifications and results. The manufacturer must have valid data to back up their claims. And I'm sure they didn't use a wireless card and Netstumbler to measure the gain on the antenna. Not that Netstumbler can't do it. But, it was placed on a non-radiating surface in a RF Anechoic chamber and hooked up to some pretty cool equipment and a calibrated 2.4Ghz was radiated from an antenna at a set set distance and the signal was measured and checked against another calibrated antenna to ensure accuracy. More or less. Those coils aren't there to make it look pretty.
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Houston
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Quite a bit EAST & a smidgen south of the world famous Rat. 2 miles from the beach or 1/2 a mile from a golf course and liquor store, or 2 miles from a Gun store or 5 miles from a hooters or a "adult nightclub"
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Wonder if this law will join Streakers "Tech TV" rule as a thread killer? OP places 7db ant 5' from AP, wonders why it don't work. Tries again at 3' nothing. OP gets pissed, tries again at 1'. OP comes to NS to whine about PoS $20 antenna. OP knows he should get full signal, cause his intel 2100 or ralink card w/NS running is teh shiat!
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Sniffin' the aether
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: A little North of Reason
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Second, if you don't recognize loading coils built into an antenna to change the radiation pattern it's not my fault. YOU get your head out of your ass and do the research like I suggested, and you'll learn that a yagi is NOT the only type of antenna with 'gain.' Hint: http://wireless.gumph.org/articles/homemadeomni.html That have an etched PC board or a yagi? They specify a 40 degree beam width. So, dipshit, what do you think the radiation pattern of this antenna looks like? Hint: It looks a little bit like the doughnut pillow you probably will want to sit on after you pull your head out, unless of course, you LIKE that kind of pain.
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Join Date: May 2003
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Allow me....
"I can't understand how people can be so stupid. I can't understand that."
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