An Avaya gold is the same as an orinoco gold correct?

nleahcim · 05-19-2004

Hi - I searched alot but couldn't find anything definitive to this point - so I just wanted to make sure. An Avaya Gold card is the same as an Orinoco Gold card, correct? (128b wep, etc.)

Will there be any problems getting it to accept orinoco drivers and whatnot?

Thanks!

King_Ice_Flash · 05-19-2004

Please search for the orinoco card pictures...

lincomatic · 05-19-2004

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Originally Posted by nleahcim

Hi - I searched alot but couldn't find anything definitive to this point - so I just wanted to make sure. An Avaya Gold card is the same as an Orinoco Gold card, correct? (128b wep, etc.)

Will there be any problems getting it to accept orinoco drivers and whatnot?

Thanks!

yes, it's functionally identical, however, since it's branded Avaya (which is just a spinoff from lucent), using Avaya's versions of the utilities/drivers is easiest. if you want to use lucent/agere-branded drivers, all you need to do is hack the INF files or override in windows when installing the drivers. there are threads here which teach now to even hack firmware updaters and the client manager, if you really need to go that far.

nleahcim · 05-19-2004

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Originally Posted by King_Ice_Flash

Please search for the orinoco card pictures...

I already did - and there was a picture of an Avaya silver - but no mention of the gold. Like I said I already searched.

JTX · 05-19-2004

Avaya Gold is the exact same as an Orinoco Gold Classic. The only difference is that Windows will detect it as an Avaya and the labels on the card and the antenna slab will say Avaya.

DarthDemo · 05-26-2004

Can you successfully upload and run the Orinoco Gold firmware on the Avaya Gold card? That would be the true test of identicability.

lincomatic · 05-26-2004

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Originally Posted by DarthDemo

Can you successfully upload and run the Orinoco Gold firmware on the Avaya Gold card? That would be the true test of identicability.

yes. i have even converted one to a true orinoco gold... pcmcia vendor & device id and all.

furthermore, you can put them into orinoco usb adapters and AP's as is and they work.

mathis · 05-27-2004

How did you actually make your card acting as a true orinoco? I tried to patch it using Alchemy running Windows XP, but I'm not sure if I used the correct driver. Am I right that I have to use *old* original orinoco drivers?
regards,
-mathis

lincomatic · 05-27-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by mathis

How did you actually make your card acting as a true orinoco? I tried to patch it using Alchemy running Windows XP, but I'm not sure if I used the correct driver. Am I right that I have to use *old* original orinoco drivers?
regards,
-mathis

to changed the branding you need to update the CIS too. too complicated to explain here. read the orinoco silver to gold thread.

if alchemy didn't complain of errors then your gold upgrade worked. try it out on a 128bit-WEP'ed AP.

The Others · 05-27-2004

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Originally Posted by mathis

How did you actually make your card acting as a true orinoco?

Don't worry, your card is a true Orinoco, it just has a different name under windows. Inside, both hardware and software, it is an Orinoco. As Mchale famously said before:

"a rose by any other name would still smell as sweet"

With English like that, he should start writing plays

mathis · 05-27-2004

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Originally Posted by lincomatic

to changed the branding you need to update the CIS too. too complicated to explain here. read the orinoco silver to gold thread.

if alchemy didn't complain of errors then your gold upgrade worked. try it out on a 128bit-WEP'ed AP.

alchemy didn't complain, but if I run the WSU it complains that I haven't got a proper card inserted or driver installed. alchemy still recognizes the card as a roamabout

The Others · 05-27-2004

If alchemy didn't bark at you, you now have a gold card.

Firmware hacking is easy to achieve, you can find guides to it by searching around.

With the firmware upgraded, you can install the latest driver and bingo, it should all fall together.

mathis · 05-27-2004

I *cannot* upgrade the driver. The updater complains about not having a card. Actually I want to downgrade it to <8.xx 'caus they're causing troubles running linux and monitor mode..

The Others · 05-27-2004

Does this help?

http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...7059#post17059

/spoon feed

05-19-2004	#1 (permalink)
nleahcim Unregistered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 133	An Avaya gold is the same as an orinoco gold correct? Hi - I searched alot but couldn't find anything definitive to this point - so I just wanted to make sure. An Avaya Gold card is the same as an Orinoco Gold card, correct? (128b wep, etc.) Will there be any problems getting it to accept orinoco drivers and whatnot? Thanks!

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King_Ice_Flash Alien Paranoid Stumbler Join Date: May 2003 Location: WI Posts: 2,688	Please search for the orinoco card pictures... __________________ "Yeah," said a voice from under the table, "you go to pieces so fast people get hit by the shrapnel."

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DarthDemo Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4	Identicability? Can you successfully upload and run the Orinoco Gold firmware on the Avaya Gold card? That would be the true test of identicability.

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	If alchemy didn't bark at you, you now have a gold card. Firmware hacking is easy to achieve, you can find guides to it by searching around. With the firmware upgraded, you can install the latest driver and bingo, it should all fall together. __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	Does this help? http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...7059#post17059 /spoon feed __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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JTX kawaii desu ne Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 72	Avaya Gold is the exact same as an Orinoco Gold Classic. The only difference is that Windows will detect it as an Avaya and the labels on the card and the antenna slab will say Avaya.

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mathis Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3	How did you actually make your card acting as a true orinoco? I tried to patch it using Alchemy running Windows XP, but I'm not sure if I used the correct driver. Am I right that I have to use old original orinoco drivers? regards, -mathis

05-27-2004	#13 (permalink)
mathis Registered Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3	I cannot upgrade the driver. The updater complains about not having a card. Actually I want to downgrade it to <8.xx 'caus they're causing troubles running linux and monitor mode..

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