Belkin 7010 and WPA

MrFoo · 02-15-2004

I have a Belkin 7010 11g nic and the Belkin 11g router. If I set it into WPA-PSK mode and then use WPA assistant on the Win2k laptop, I will get a connection that stays and yet I can only pink out for about 30 seconds. After that point there is not firther network communication, but the system says I am connected to the router in WPA mode. Has anyone had any experience with this kind of situation? Or should I upgrade to XP for its WPA support?

Recap:

Belkin NIC and Belkin router.
Belkin nic does not natively support WPA apparently.
Used newly released WPA assistant to gain connection.
COnnection is apparently good, yet I lose network communication in 30 seconds (tested via pings to the Belkin router).

Thanks for any help.

Foo

The Others · 02-16-2004

I don't know much about WPA, so maybe ignore this, but does support require new card drivers? Were they included with the WPA assistant? Is there any on the belkin website?

MrFoo · 02-16-2004

WPA assistant was that new freeware QPA client that was released. I read that Belkin has not put WPA into the config app, that they may do that or bundle a WPA client app in the future. I am just trying to secure my network better than WEP. Right now I use 128bit WEP and mac filtering and non broadcast SSID. Interestingly, to get the WPA assistant to work at all, I needed to broadcast the SSID.

ZipperSeven · 02-16-2004

I am thinking that they release support for WPA through windows in ME, 2K and XP, although I only know about XP for sure. What version are you using? I know that the XP WPA works a hell of a lot better than most manufacturer WPA implementations (and I have kind of a GRRR opinion of Belkin anyhow.) Just throwing in my 2 cents here.

As an added note, how much traffic do you have on your network on average, how many machines? A lot of people here on the forum and in the security field have shown that 128 bit WEP is secure (enough) for small home type networks (I run it and only have 2 wireless machines on at the max, 4 total on the network.) If you are really paranoid about what goes across the line then maybe look at something like IPSec.

MrFoo · 02-16-2004

Well, this wireless has only one client. There are 7 clients on the wired network. I also read here that it would take 4GB of packets and a week of cracking to bust the WEP, so I feel better about it. Maybe I can rig up an IPsec system. I have the Belkin in AP mode and the network uses an ancient 1st edition Linksys BEFSR41 using the newest firmware for net sharing. I run the MAC locking and the WEP, so I suppose that will be enough until I can get more RAM into the laptop to make XP worthwhile.

Thanks for the help.

Foo

pod-lover · 02-17-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by MrFoo
I have a Belkin 7010 11g nic and the Belkin 11g router. If I set it into WPA-PSK mode and then use WPA assistant on the Win2k laptop, I will get a connection that stays and yet I can only pink out for about 30 seconds. After that point there is not firther network communication, but the system says I am connected to the router in WPA mode

Foo

I have the same problem, but I'm using Win Xp
on the phone with Belkin tech support 1.5 hrs last night didn't help.
they suggested I ues WEP, or a new card

I suggested I get my money back

ZipperSeven · 02-17-2004

I messed around with the WPA settings in XP last night just for fun and found it remarkably easy to use. After installing the WPA Windows Update for XP I went and messed around with the settings. Pretty easy and is almost transparent while you have it running.

First go to the wireless settings on the router, like so:

Then change the key for the client, like so:

And everything works just fine. For reference this is using a Netgear WGR614v3 802.11g router and a Broadcom 54g MiniPCI card.

Oyjord · 08-24-2004

"Interestingly, to get the WPA assistant to work at all, I needed to broadcast the SSID."

I emailed WSC about this (makers of WPA Assistant), and they said you MUST broadcast SSID for their program to work. They also said perhaps later this year they'd make a new version that allows you to turn it off.

Re: WPA and Win2k. Yes, many of you are right, WinXP's native WPA support is fine. But Win2k does NOT have native WPA support

Hence we have to resort to third-party programs like WPA Assistant.

wrzwaldo · 08-24-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oyjord

"Interestingly, to get the WPA assistant to work at all, I needed to broadcast the SSID."

I emailed WSC about this (makers of WPA Assistant), and they said you MUST broadcast SSID for their program to work. They also said perhaps later this year they'd make a new version that allows you to turn it off.

Re: WPA and Win2k. Yes, many of you are right, WinXP's native WPA support is fine. But Win2k does NOT have native WPA support

Hence we have to resort to third-party programs like WPA Assistant.

Turning off broadcast is way overrated anyway.

MrFoo · 08-28-2004

Unfortunately, I have been unable to use that card in some time on the laptop due to some kind of control panel failure. I got a Belkin 54g card and still use 128bit WEP as the WPA still causes problems. I am pleased to report that on this system the Belkin card works well and so does the integrated wireless in my Axim X300 PocketPC.

Thanks for all your comments

02-15-2004	#1 (permalink)
MrFoo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5	Belkin 7010 and WPA I have a Belkin 7010 11g nic and the Belkin 11g router. If I set it into WPA-PSK mode and then use WPA assistant on the Win2k laptop, I will get a connection that stays and yet I can only pink out for about 30 seconds. After that point there is not firther network communication, but the system says I am connected to the router in WPA mode. Has anyone had any experience with this kind of situation? Or should I upgrade to XP for its WPA support? Recap: Belkin NIC and Belkin router. Belkin nic does not natively support WPA apparently. Used newly released WPA assistant to gain connection. COnnection is apparently good, yet I lose network communication in 30 seconds (tested via pings to the Belkin router). Thanks for any help. Foo

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The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	I don't know much about WPA, so maybe ignore this, but does support require new card drivers? Were they included with the WPA assistant? Is there any on the belkin website? __________________ all good ends all ?u=273

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02-16-2004	#3 (permalink)
MrFoo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5	WPA assistant was that new freeware QPA client that was released. I read that Belkin has not put WPA into the config app, that they may do that or bundle a WPA client app in the future. I am just trying to secure my network better than WEP. Right now I use 128bit WEP and mac filtering and non broadcast SSID. Interestingly, to get the WPA assistant to work at all, I needed to broadcast the SSID.

02-16-2004	#5 (permalink)
MrFoo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5	Well, this wireless has only one client. There are 7 clients on the wired network. I also read here that it would take 4GB of packets and a week of cracking to bust the WEP, so I feel better about it. Maybe I can rig up an IPsec system. I have the Belkin in AP mode and the network uses an ancient 1st edition Linksys BEFSR41 using the newest firmware for net sharing. I run the MAC locking and the WEP, so I suppose that will be enough until I can get more RAM into the laptop to make XP worthwhile. Thanks for the help. Foo

08-24-2004	#8 (permalink)
Oyjord Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4	"Interestingly, to get the WPA assistant to work at all, I needed to broadcast the SSID." I emailed WSC about this (makers of WPA Assistant), and they said you MUST broadcast SSID for their program to work. They also said perhaps later this year they'd make a new version that allows you to turn it off. Re: WPA and Win2k. Yes, many of you are right, WinXP's native WPA support is fine. But Win2k does NOT have native WPA support Hence we have to resort to third-party programs like WPA Assistant.

08-28-2004	#10 (permalink)
MrFoo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 5	Unfortunately, I have been unable to use that card in some time on the laptop due to some kind of control panel failure. I got a Belkin 54g card and still use 128bit WEP as the WPA still causes problems. I am pleased to report that on this system the Belkin card works well and so does the integrated wireless in my Axim X300 PocketPC. Thanks for all your comments