Best or close to best card?

Nuro · 12-12-2002

Hey guys, I'm new to these forums and I was just curious what the most comonly used adapter was? I have been looking at several different brands and am aware of the chipset features. I run XP Pro on my laptop and was kind of looking to get into this as a hobby. I am a CCNA and MSCE and am a senoir network admin for my a firm in my area. I just wanted to kind of get an idea of the possible security leaks by doing a little wardriving myself becuase we are considering doing some wireless integration. Any hardware recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Nuro

-=heineken=- · 12-12-2002

I think if you read the forums a bit more you will find that a large majority uses the Orinoco card, or some of the popular re-brands of the Orinoco. IMO, it is one of the best cards I have used. I use it for both Netstumbler and Kismet in Linux...

All of the cards you find in retail stores are in a class completely seperate.... They don't compare to Orinoco, Cisco and other highere end cards. Plus they don't have external antenna connectors usually!!

Nuro · 12-12-2002

Thanks alot. I read through the forums before I posted and did see several references to that card but saw others that seemed to perfer the lynx or dlink. I just wanted to get a general consensus from you vets.

Mr.White · 12-12-2002

Orinoco Silver for 64 bit WEP or Gold for 128 bit.

Accept no substitute.

Unless it's a Dell TruMobile rebadge then go ahead and, erm, uh....accept away.

vanbo · 12-12-2002

Just my .02 cents, but if you're not using external antennas, then I've had much better reception with the Cisco 350 series than the Orinoco gold (across many different configurations).

-=heineken=- · 12-12-2002

The Aironet cards without the internal antenna are good too! You just don't have the option of attaching an external antenna or not.

Nuro · 12-12-2002

Thanks alot for the responses guys. I've gone ahead and ordered the Orinoco gold. It should be here in a few days. My first choice was actually the Cisco because I am a bit of a Cisco loyalist but in research I did see that they didn't have an external anntena option and if you put one on there, you would have to hardwire the card a little by saughtering. That is a bit out of my league.

Thanks again,

Nuro

Wanderer · 12-12-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Nuro
Thanks alot for the responses guys. I've gone ahead and ordered the Orinoco gold. It should be here in a few days. My first choice was actually the Cisco because I am a bit of a Cisco loyalist but in research I did see that they didn't have an external anntena option and if you put one on there, you would have to hardwire the card a little by saughtering. That is a bit out of my league.

Actually, Cisco does have an external antenna option. The problem is that you can't get a card with an internal antenna that also accepts an external connection. You have to decide if you want a card with an internal antenna or an external antenna and buy according.. The LMC352 is the one with no antennas, and MUST have an extneral antenna, and the PCM352 is the one with an antenna sticking out the side of the card.

Mayhem# · 12-13-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.White
Orinoco Silver for 64 bit WEP or Gold for 128 bit.

Accept no substitute.

Unless it's a Dell TruMobile rebadge then go ahead and, erm, uh....accept away.

Why? What's wrong with the Dell Truemobile cards?

E.

blackwave · 12-13-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Mayhem#
Why? What's wrong with the Dell Truemobile cards?

I think you are reading this differently than Mr.White intended for it to be read

I have a few 1150's and they are super duper... but I always suggest ORiNOCO to everyone since they are the most compatible across platforms

Mr.White · 12-13-2002

Quote:

Why? What's wrong with the Dell Truemobile cards?

Nothing.

Don't mind me, I'm just being a wiseass. It's a perfectly acceptable substitue for the substitutional acceptance.....of...........accepting....things... ..away.

Mayhem# · 12-13-2002

Aaah stop!
I'm to old and slow for this shit...

E.

Wanna buy any Dell cards or AP's by the way?

zzzz · 12-17-2002

i agree on the cisco being the best if you are using them without any antenna at all.

I have a netgear ma401, compaq wl110 and a cisco pcm352.

Cisco finds waaaaaay more APs and picks them up well before the others.

cheers

z

hratch · 01-09-2003

I have the cisco tree-fitty w/o antenna. I am not convinced it is better than my orinoco, though.

beware...i am running these cards through a smart-amp so their design mW don't matter since they get attenuated anyway.

If i didn't have the amp, then I am sure i would see a difference.

I haven't done a lab A/B test with them, only some casual driving to get a feel of the new card.

Having two antenna jacks and the fact that there is no antenna sticking out opens up new possibilities, though. (eth0/eth1 simultaneous)

IT could be though that i have a good orinoco card. Side-by-side tests against Mentat's rig (duplicate card/amp/antenna) yielded more AP's than his rig.

12-12-2002	#1 (permalink)
Nuro Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 9	Best or close to best card? Hey guys, I'm new to these forums and I was just curious what the most comonly used adapter was? I have been looking at several different brands and am aware of the chipset features. I run XP Pro on my laptop and was kind of looking to get into this as a hobby. I am a CCNA and MSCE and am a senoir network admin for my a firm in my area. I just wanted to kind of get an idea of the possible security leaks by doing a little wardriving myself becuase we are considering doing some wireless integration. Any hardware recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks, Nuro

12-12-2002	#4 (permalink)
Mr.White OH such tacos will I give Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,049	Orinoco Silver for 64 bit WEP or Gold for 128 bit. Accept no substitute. Unless it's a Dell TruMobile rebadge then go ahead and, erm, uh....accept away. __________________ A good way to threaten somebody is to light a stick of dynamite. Then you call the guy and hold the burning fuse up to the phone. "Hear that?" you say. "That's dynamite, baby." -Jack Handey

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12-12-2002	#2 (permalink)
-=heineken=- Shrewd Stumbler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 316	I think if you read the forums a bit more you will find that a large majority uses the Orinoco card, or some of the popular re-brands of the Orinoco. IMO, it is one of the best cards I have used. I use it for both Netstumbler and Kismet in Linux... All of the cards you find in retail stores are in a class completely seperate.... They don't compare to Orinoco, Cisco and other highere end cards. Plus they don't have external antenna connectors usually!!

12-12-2002	#3 (permalink)
Nuro Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 9	Thanks alot. I read through the forums before I posted and did see several references to that card but saw others that seemed to perfer the lynx or dlink. I just wanted to get a general consensus from you vets.

12-12-2002	#5 (permalink)
vanbo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 18	Just my .02 cents, but if you're not using external antennas, then I've had much better reception with the Cisco 350 series than the Orinoco gold (across many different configurations).

12-12-2002	#6 (permalink)
-=heineken=- Shrewd Stumbler Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 316	The Aironet cards without the internal antenna are good too! You just don't have the option of attaching an external antenna or not.

12-12-2002	#7 (permalink)
Nuro Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 9	Thanks alot for the responses guys. I've gone ahead and ordered the Orinoco gold. It should be here in a few days. My first choice was actually the Cisco because I am a bit of a Cisco loyalist but in research I did see that they didn't have an external anntena option and if you put one on there, you would have to hardwire the card a little by saughtering. That is a bit out of my league. Thanks again, Nuro

12-13-2002	#12 (permalink)
Mayhem# Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 24	Aaah stop! I'm to old and slow for this shit... E. Wanna buy any Dell cards or AP's by the way?

12-17-2002	#13 (permalink)
zzzz Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10	i agree on the cisco being the best if you are using them without any antenna at all. I have a netgear ma401, compaq wl110 and a cisco pcm352. Cisco finds waaaaaay more APs and picks them up well before the others. cheers z

01-09-2003	#14 (permalink)
hratch Roadie Stumbler Join Date: May 2002 Location: On the Move... Posts: 308	I have the cisco tree-fitty w/o antenna. I am not convinced it is better than my orinoco, though. beware...i am running these cards through a smart-amp so their design mW don't matter since they get attenuated anyway. If i didn't have the amp, then I am sure i would see a difference. I haven't done a lab A/B test with them, only some casual driving to get a feel of the new card. Having two antenna jacks and the fact that there is no antenna sticking out opens up new possibilities, though. (eth0/eth1 simultaneous) IT could be though that i have a good orinoco card. Side-by-side tests against Mentat's rig (duplicate card/amp/antenna) yielded more AP's than his rig.