NetStumbler.org Forums

Go Back   NetStumbler.org Forums > WiFi Forums > Hardware
Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-13-2009   #1 (permalink)
lagoausente
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13
Car antenna

Hello, I have searched about this and haven´t find reply to my doubts.
I have this antenna, CompraWifi | Tienda Wireless | Tienda Wifi | Antenas y Equipos
My first question is how should I get better result, with this high gain antenna inside the car? or with the typical 5.5 db external on the roof?
The 5.5 db for car I have seen is magnetic. Doesn´t exist something that can be mounted fixed like the radio ones? and discreete at the same time?
what are your experiences? Maybe a high gain onmi inside the car is anothe option?.
I would like to can conect ocasionally to a AP and get the better signal posible, and something discreet at the same time. Any light?
What about the radio antennas? Can be modified to wifi frequencies?
lagoausente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2009   #2 (permalink)
bobfunland
Mostly Harmless
 
bobfunland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in a van, down by the river
Posts: 562
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
Hello, I have searched about this and haven´t find reply to my doubts.
I have this antenna, CompraWifi | Tienda Wireless | Tienda Wifi | Antenas y Equipos
My first question is how should I get better result, with this high gain antenna inside the car? or with the typical 5.5 db external on the roof?
The 5.5 db for car I have seen is magnetic. Doesn´t exist something that can be mounted fixed like the radio ones? and discreete at the same time?
what are your experiences? Maybe a high gain onmi inside the car is anothe option?.
I would like to can conect ocasionally to a AP and get the better signal posible, and something discreet at the same time. Any light?
What about the radio antennas? Can be modified to wifi frequencies?
I guess I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Do you mean to be driving and also surf the internet at the same time? Can you elaborate on that? Thanks
bobfunland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009   #3 (permalink)
lagoausente
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobfunland View Post
I guess I'm not sure what you're trying to do. Do you mean to be driving and also surf the internet at the same time? Can you elaborate on that? Thanks
Of course not. For any of the two things the issue of the antenna is the same, I think...
lagoausente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009   #4 (permalink)
Scruge
Nyuk nyuk!
 
Scruge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TX
Posts: 1,463
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
I would like to can conect ocasionally to a AP and get the better signal posible, and something discreet at the same time. Any light?
what spanish to english translator are you using?

Because when words like discreet and connect are used together they give off a subversive tone around here.
__________________
KNSGEM
A wifi boundary plotter for Google Earth
Click Me
Scruge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009   #5 (permalink)
lagoausente
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13
Well, my English is not very good, although I understand what you mean.
Here there are few reference libraries/public libraries that allow internet connection for a limited time at about 1 hour/day or so. It requires to register, and log in to have access.
My work is around 35km from my home, and I there are some of these networks a long my travel. I found that using Knsgem with Netstumbler, could be practical to find the coverage area around the library, so could just check my emails just park, or double park in the right place for having coverage.
Even for making the coverage, and for connecting from the car I should like to be discreet, just for avoiding anyone to think some strage behaviour. I don´t think that putting a magnetic antenna on the roof of the car is a good idea.
Just a note, the libraries often have two networks, and two antennas, one for inside, and one for outside. So using it from the car seems a good option.
Have a look:
Galicia será la primera región con Internet en todas sus bibliotecas
lagoausente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009   #6 (permalink)
streaker69
Psychic Amish Stumbler
 
streaker69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA
Posts: 12,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
Well, my English is not very good, although I understand what you mean.
Here there are few reference libraries/public libraries that allow internet connection for a limited time at about 1 hour/day or so. It requires to register, and log in to have access.
My work is around 35km from my home, and I there are some of these networks a long my travel. I found that using Knsgem with Netstumbler, could be practical to find the coverage area around the library, so could just check my emails just park, or double park in the right place for having coverage.
Even for making the coverage, and for connecting from the car I should like to be discreet, just for avoiding anyone to think some strage behaviour. I don´t think that putting a magnetic antenna on the roof of the car is a good idea.
Just a note, the libraries often have two networks, and two antennas, one for inside, and one for outside. So using it from the car seems a good option.
Have a look:
Galicia será la primera región con Internet en todas sus bibliotecas
Wow, you must be a really important person that you have to stop along side the road, or double park to check email. Are you carrying the nuclear football or something?
__________________
Treat your gun like your genitals, only whip it out when it's absolutely necessary.
streaker69 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009   #7 (permalink)
little dave
Google is your friend
 
little dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: somewhere between 00:0f:f8:58:58:08 and 00:13:10:20:20:83
Posts: 402
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scruge View Post
what spanish to english translator are you using?
That was one mighty find guess you made there.
__________________
What happened to Dutch?
little dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2009   #8 (permalink)
lagoausente
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
Wow, you must be a really important person that you have to stop along side the road, or double park to check email. Are you carrying the nuclear football or something?
If I were an important person, I should use 3G. In the other hand, not the whole world are cities and big cities. Rural zones are diferent.
I use google translator. I guess you didn´t check the link, so I put the google traslation: Galicia será la primera región con Internet en todas sus bibliotecas

Quote:
Galicia can become the first autonomous community in which all public libraries have free Internet access if they fulfilled the predictions of the Xunta, which yesterday announced it will soon sign an agreement of collaboration between the public and business Red.es the Department of Culture within the project Internet in libraries, which will start to increase their share in more than one million euros to complete the provision of Internet services and computers in 313 public libraries in the Commonwealth.



Following the signing of this agreement, the final investment for the project Internet in libraries in Galicia is 2,575,599 euros, of which the Ministry of Culture provided 1,030,240 euros and the company Red.es, the 1,545,359 euros remaining. Thus, Red.es contributes 60% of the total, while the Xunta the other 40%.

Since signing the first agreement in May 2003, joined the program 198 libraries from 173 municipalities, and this year remaining 115 sites of other municipalities. In these two years were high on the agenda more than 14,000 users and accumulated more than 130,000 sessions.

The objective of increased heading is to reach 100,000 users by the end of the program in 2006. This will enable a wide network of access points in public libraries in Galicia, which will allow all citizens access the Internet free of charge and with a good quality connection, as announced by the Xunta.

In particular, it is to convert these spaces on the first point of cultural reference and access to information from the municipalities, with the possibility also to generate a bibliographic catalog group, consisting of funds belonging to the centers of the Network Library Galicia.

One of the measures being taken will provide Internet units still lack this service and will be connected via satellite libraries located in rural areas without DSL connection. Also improve the equipment of schools with greater number of users.

Moreover, the Secretary of State for Telecommunications, Francisco Ros, said yesterday that "it is anticipated that at the end of 2008 all citizens have access to broadband lines, regardless of the demand of users." After meeting with the conselleiro Innovation, Rodríguez Yuste, Ros said that the implementation of this system is pending final approval from Brussels. "
Doesn´t exist this type of services in USA?
lagoausente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009   #9 (permalink)
Barry
Managing the iTards.
 
Barry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 6,066
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post

Doesn´t exist this type of services in USA?
Yea, we call them cell phones.
__________________
Never do anything you don't want to explain to the paramedics.
Barry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009   #10 (permalink)
streaker69
Psychic Amish Stumbler
 
streaker69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA
Posts: 12,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
If I were an important person, I should use 3G. In the other hand, not the whole world are cities and big cities. Rural zones are diferent.
If you aren't that important, then you should be able to wait until you get home and not worry about needing to connect anywhere to get your email, let alone double parking and generally being a dick to other people on the road just because you want to check email.
__________________
Treat your gun like your genitals, only whip it out when it's absolutely necessary.
streaker69 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009   #11 (permalink)
Scruge
Nyuk nyuk!
 
Scruge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TX
Posts: 1,463
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
I should use 3G. In the other hand, not the whole world are cities and big cities. Rural zones are diferent.

Doesn´t exist this type of services in USA?
AT&T's 3G laptop connect service is fantastic.

On my 1000+ mile trip from Houston to Tucson last month, which took me through the sparsely populated Texas Pecos, there were only a few times I lost service and they were brief periods of <10 minutes.
I was running an instant messenger, streaming stock quotes, and occasionally uploading pictures from a dash board camera I had setup.
My truck setup

Over all I was impressed with the coverage and speed.
__________________
KNSGEM
A wifi boundary plotter for Google Earth
Click Me
Scruge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009   #12 (permalink)
lagoausente
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by streaker69 View Post
If you aren't that important, then you should be able to wait until you get home and not worry about needing to connect anywhere to get your email, let alone double parking and generally being a dick to other people on the road just because you want to check email.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry View Post
Yea, we call them cell phones.

and what is Netstumbler useful for? Do you go with the GPS from your bedroom to your living room?
lagoausente is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009   #13 (permalink)
streaker69
Psychic Amish Stumbler
 
streaker69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA
Posts: 12,353
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
and what is Netstumbler useful for? Do you go with the GPS from your bedroom to your living room?
I don't double park and check my email, as you so plainly stated you wanted to do.
__________________
Treat your gun like your genitals, only whip it out when it's absolutely necessary.
streaker69 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009   #14 (permalink)
brwrdrvr
Cajun from Hell
 
brwrdrvr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Capitol City, Louisiana
Posts: 3,855
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
and what is Netstumbler useful for? Do you go with the GPS from your bedroom to your living room?
How about you get a data plan through your cell provider and then use that anywhere you would like and you wouldn't look like you are trying to do anything illegal.

AT&T Fuze Specs Hit HTC Wiki.com

That is what I use. I get data and voice on it. I can also war drive and use it as a navigational system with google maps.
__________________
Real Linux users write the zeros and ones directly to the hard drive using a refrigerator magnet. ~ bobfunland
brwrdrvr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2009   #15 (permalink)
Thorn
Did you do the math?
 
Thorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Villa Straylight
Posts: 10,502
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagoausente View Post
and what is Netstumbler useful for?
From the ReadMe:

Quote:
NetStumbler is a tool for Windows that allows you to detect Wireless Local Area Networks (WLANs) using 802.11b, 802.11a and 802.11g. It has many uses:

* Verify that your network is set up the way you intended.
* Find locations with poor coverage in your WLAN.
* Detect other networks that may be causing interference on your network.
* Detect unauthorized "rogue" access points in your workplace.
* Help aim directional antennas for long-haul WLAN links.
* Use it recreationally for WarDriving.
You'll notice that no where in there is a mention of finding access points to leech.
__________________
Thorn
"Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"
Thorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Google
 
Web NetStumbler.org

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.


All messages express the views of the author and are for entertainment purposes only. Netstumbler.org cannot be held responsible for the authenticity of the content or the actions of its members. By using this site and its services, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are discriminating, obscene, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violates any laws and you release Netstumbler.org from any future claims of any kind whatsoever including, but not limited to, addiction and loss of productivity. All forum messages, private messages and any other content are properties of Netstumbler.org. Even if publicly available, personal or copyrighted information are not to be posted without the consent of the owner. Distribution of licensed and copyrighted materials in any way not endorsed by the copyright owner is strictly prohibited. You may not use this site and its resources to spam other sites or individuals or perform any action that violates any law. Items sold or bought in the For Sale forum are sold as is and no warranty or insurance of any kind is provided. Netstumbler.org cannot be held responsible for the outcome of any transactions and no warranty of any kind is provided, either express or implied. Vulgar words are not allowed in the subject lines ; they may be used in the message body in any forum. The Administrator, Super Moderators and Moderators of Netstumbler.org have the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason and to reveal your identity and other known information in the event of a complaint or legal action arising from any message posted by you.