Card and proggie questions

g0tr00t · 05-02-2002

Ok, I have read through 500+ posts in the past week. I have a few questions that need some clarification.

If I am incorrect please correct me and no flames please. I am trying to compile al of this info.

1. I have a laptop running Windows 2000. I want to get a wireless Lan Card. In order to properly use NetStumbler, it makes sense to purchsae the Orinoco Silver card. I can flash it with an AP if I wanted to upgrade to the Gold card. (but that is another story).

2. If I want an antenna, I should go through fabcorp.com for this antenna: "Stumbler Special" $85.00 that is 1 magnetic mount antenna that everyone talks about (9 foot of LMR-240 to a N Female connector) - 1 Lucent / AVAYA / ORiNOCO Pigtail to N Male, (your choice of 12 or 19 inches), and 2 day shipping.

3. Netstumbler will find me acces points but will not sniff packets. In order to sniff packets, I need to use Sniffer Pro 4.6 (which I have) and Airopeek(which I need). Or Iris (which I also need).

4. Now in order for me to use a Sniffer, I cannot use the Orinoco card. Is that correct?

5. GPS...this will come later. No questions yet.

6. Current sniffer/auditing programs. I cannot use my current programs, Retina, NmapNT, Lanscan to scan becuase they are for an ethernet connection and will not work on Wireless, correct?

Thanks for all the replies.

sykojester · 05-02-2002

1. I personally cannot confirm the upgrading of the silver to the gold card. It's a mixed deal, but I dont think it works. Dont be cheap, just pay the 10-20$ and get the gold card if you want it.

2. Yep, that's the best deal out there.

3. NS only finds APs that are broadcasting, shows the SNR, name, lat/long, ect....It does not sniff anything....only probes. I dont know about sniffer pro 4.6, but 4.7 does support the Orinoco cards ( I have a silver card ) and have confirmed this. Airopeek 1.o does not support the Lucent/Orinoco cards but version 1.1 DOES, but you have to follow their directions on www.wildpackets.com and flash your card w/ a certain version of firmware 6.24 I think and use their driver.

4. read above

6. You are correct. Those programs will not recognize your wireless card and will therefore NOT work. That's what the formentioned programs are for

Enjoy

Drdigital · 05-03-2002

Find that Sniffer 4.7 .......you'll be impressed. 802.11b is fully used in 4.7

blackwave · 05-03-2002

<cough> mocosoft </cough>

g0tr00t · 05-04-2002

Thanks blackwave. I haven't installed it yet, but I have an Orinoco Card on the way!! Sweet!

You all are great for the info!!!

blackwave · 05-04-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by g0tr00t
Thanks blackwave. I haven't installed it yet, but I have an Orinoco Card on the way!! Sweet!

You all are great for the info!!!

You may also want to read through this thread carefully...

http://forums.netstumbler.com/showth...8&pagenumber=1

05-02-2002	#1 (permalink)
g0tr00t Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: May 2002 Location: r00ting y0ur b0x. Posts: 352	Card and proggie questions Ok, I have read through 500+ posts in the past week. I have a few questions that need some clarification. If I am incorrect please correct me and no flames please. I am trying to compile al of this info. 1. I have a laptop running Windows 2000. I want to get a wireless Lan Card. In order to properly use NetStumbler, it makes sense to purchsae the Orinoco Silver card. I can flash it with an AP if I wanted to upgrade to the Gold card. (but that is another story). 2. If I want an antenna, I should go through fabcorp.com for this antenna: "Stumbler Special" $85.00 that is 1 magnetic mount antenna that everyone talks about (9 foot of LMR-240 to a N Female connector) - 1 Lucent / AVAYA / ORiNOCO Pigtail to N Male, (your choice of 12 or 19 inches), and 2 day shipping. 3. Netstumbler will find me acces points but will not sniff packets. In order to sniff packets, I need to use Sniffer Pro 4.6 (which I have) and Airopeek(which I need). Or Iris (which I also need). 4. Now in order for me to use a Sniffer, I cannot use the Orinoco card. Is that correct? 5. GPS...this will come later. No questions yet. 6. Current sniffer/auditing programs. I cannot use my current programs, Retina, NmapNT, Lanscan to scan becuase they are for an ethernet connection and will not work on Wireless, correct? Thanks for all the replies.

05-03-2002	#3 (permalink)
Drdigital Whadya mean " hacker" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: within range of your net!! Posts: 26	Sniffer 4.7 Find that Sniffer 4.7 .......you'll be impressed. 802.11b is fully used in 4.7

05-03-2002	#4 (permalink)
blackwave Do I look like I'm joking Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: SoCal, OC Posts: 4,507	cough cough <cough> mocosoft </cough> __________________ -=BW=-

05-04-2002	#5 (permalink)
g0tr00t Welcome to my nightmare Join Date: May 2002 Location: r00ting y0ur b0x. Posts: 352	You rock! Thanks blackwave. I haven't installed it yet, but I have an Orinoco Card on the way!! Sweet! You all are great for the info!!!

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05-02-2002	#2 (permalink)
sykojester Net Lurker - phjear Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 371	1. I personally cannot confirm the upgrading of the silver to the gold card. It's a mixed deal, but I dont think it works. Dont be cheap, just pay the 10-20$ and get the gold card if you want it. 2. Yep, that's the best deal out there. 3. NS only finds APs that are broadcasting, shows the SNR, name, lat/long, ect....It does not sniff anything....only probes. I dont know about sniffer pro 4.6, but 4.7 does support the Orinoco cards ( I have a silver card ) and have confirmed this. Airopeek 1.o does not support the Lucent/Orinoco cards but version 1.1 DOES, but you have to follow their directions on www.wildpackets.com and flash your card w/ a certain version of firmware 6.24 I think and use their driver. 4. read above 6. You are correct. Those programs will not recognize your wireless card and will therefore NOT work. That's what the formentioned programs are for Enjoy