GPS recommendations

theprez98 · 04-13-2007

Well the Magellan GPS quit working with NS and Kismet. I think it's the serial/lighter cable, but rather than replace the cable (which I might do eventually), I'd rather find a smaller, puck-type GPS.

Has anyone had any luck with the Ambicom GPS? It's the cheapest one out there ($42.99). I checked out the Deluo GPS's but the cheaper ones are not in stock.

Requirements: relatively cheap (preferably under $100; I don't need anything other than GPS output), USB, NMEA, works with Kismet and (preferably) NS.

Suggestions?

Dutch · 04-13-2007

MS S&T 2007 with Gps Locator bundle. Includesa Microsoft rebadged Pharos GPS-500 USB gps (SIRFIII chipset). Works great. You should be able to find it at the local hardware/sofware pusher, otherwise amazon has got it.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Stre...6495255&sr=8-1

New price with Amazon is 89.99 $, or used for 69.95 through Amazons Marketplace.

Good thing is you can convert the GPS to BT or to RS232 by way of an slot-in-adapter for the actual GPS chip/antenna housing.
Only bad thing IMHO, is that placing it outdoor is not advisable, due to the the USB connector being unprotected from the weather. (Condoms - Non-lubricated, to the rescue...)

Performancewise it is a good GPS, and with MS S&T 2007 included it's good value for the price.
Recommended.

Dutch

theprez98 · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch

MS S&T 2007 with Gps Locator bundle. Includesa Microsoft rebadged Pharos GPS-500 USB gps (SIRFIII chipset). Works great. You should be able to find it at the local hardware/sofware pusher, otherwise amazon has got it.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Stre...6495255&sr=8-1

New price with Amazon is 89.99 $, or used for 69.95 through Amazons Marketplace.

Good thing is you can convert the GPS to BT or to RS232 by way of an slot-in-adapter for the actual GPS chip/antenna housing.
Only bad thing IMHO, is that placing it outdoor is not advisable, due to the the USB connector being unprotected from the weather. (Condoms - Non-lubricated, to the rescue...)

Performancewise it is a good GPS, and with MS S&T 2007 included it's good value for the price.
Recommended.

Dutch

Thanks, I'll go check it out...

I was hoping to buy in an actual brick and mortar store vice online but it looks like most stores are at the full list price of $129.99.

Dutch · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by theprez98

Thanks, I'll go check it out...

I was hoping to buy in an actual brick and mortar store vice online but it looks like most stores are at the full list price of $129.99.

Tell them you can get it for 89.99, and ask if they will meet the price. You'll be surprised how often they will. I just love a free open competitive marketplace..

Now I have to call my EU congressman and get him to vote FOR that Tourism import tax on cars equipped with multiple antennas and patchpanels, in order to prevent the WigleVacuumTriumvirate of Mark57, CCIE and Whitedice from entering the EU at any given time...

Dutch

Barry · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by theprez98

Thanks, I'll go check it out...

I was hoping to buy in an actual brick and mortar store vice online but it looks like most stores are at the full list price of $129.99.

Sam's club has the Streets and Trips bundle.

skwifi · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by theprez98

Well the Magellan GPS quit working with NS and Kismet. I think it's the serial/lighter cable, but rather than replace the cable (which I might do eventually), I'd rather find a smaller, puck-type GPS.

Has anyone had any luck with the Ambicom GPS? It's the cheapest one out there ($42.99). I checked out the Deluo GPS's but the cheaper ones are not in stock.

Requirements: relatively cheap (preferably under $100; I don't need anything other than GPS output), USB, NMEA, works with Kismet and (preferably) NS.

Suggestions?

I use the HOLUX GR-213 and it seems to work well with Netstumbler. I bought mine online so I am not sure what bricks and mortar options might be available to you but you should be able to find one in your price range.

linky

theprez98 · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry

Sam's club has the Streets and Trips bundle.

Just picked it up at Sam's Club.

Stand by for WiGLE uploads this weekend...

Airstreamer · 04-13-2007

That fancy new color Delorme GPS has both USB and RS-232 interfaces. Of course, its is over $350.00!

theprez98 · 04-13-2007

I have a Magellan Meridian GPS which is great and does everything, but its overkill for wardriving, needs a serial cable, and needs power. I have a combo serial/lighter cable but it just seems to have stopped working... Also, I don't really like having a nice GPS sitting in the window of the car.

My new laptop has no serial port either, so the new GPS with the USB should work great.

Barry · 04-13-2007

I broke off the power plug for my dc/ac power inverter about a month ago. Didn't hurt the jack though. You'd thing they would test these things to -40. You got the new pharos, the one I have is twice the size as that one. I haven't had the chance to upgrade yet.

theprez98 · 04-13-2007

This pharos is nice. It's sitting on my table at least 3 feet from the window (and another foot or so of roof overhang) and its still picking up 8 sats.

theprez98 · 04-13-2007

Interesting...in Windows, I got a signal inside the house. In Linux, it was much more sporadic. Irongeek mentioned the same thing on his website.

I drove around for about 45 minutes and only about half of the new APs have GPS. I watched kismet a while and it seems that the the GPS would lock into 3D mode for a while and then drop for a while...perhaps even cycling at regular intervals.

gpsd issue, maybe?

itsnotme · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by theprez98

Interesting...in Windows, I got a signal inside the house. In Linux, it was much more sporadic. Irongeek mentioned the same thing on his website.

I drove around for about 45 minutes and only about half of the new APs have GPS. I watched kismet a while and it seems that the the GPS would lock into 3D mode for a while and then drop for a while...perhaps even cycling at regular intervals.

gpsd issue, maybe?

The newer GPSd has problems. The older version of GPSd works better apparently. Ask Dutch about this, he's got the forked branch that works.

streaker69 · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsnotme

The newer GPSd has problems. The older version of GPSd works better apparently. Ask Dutch about this, he's got the forked branch that works.

You know what? You're right, he does, here's a picture of him with it.

Barry · 04-13-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsnotme

The newer GPSd has problems. The older version of GPSd works better apparently. Ask Dutch about this, he's got the forked branch that works.

Here's his copy.

GPSDrive

04-13-2007	#1 (permalink)
theprez98 SpoonfeederExtraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,709	GPS recommendations Well the Magellan GPS quit working with NS and Kismet. I think it's the serial/lighter cable, but rather than replace the cable (which I might do eventually), I'd rather find a smaller, puck-type GPS. Has anyone had any luck with the Ambicom GPS? It's the cheapest one out there ($42.99). I checked out the Deluo GPS's but the cheaper ones are not in stock. Requirements: relatively cheap (preferably under $100; I don't need anything other than GPS output), USB, NMEA, works with Kismet and (preferably) NS. Suggestions? __________________ :00475160 0E A6 AE A0 19 E3 A3 46 .......F :00475168 0D 65 17 0C 53 70 6F 6F .e..Spoo :00475170 6E 66 65 65 64 65 72 2E nfeeder. :00475178 45 78 74 72 61 6F 72 64 Extraord :00475180 69 6E 61 69 72 65 5D 3B inaire]; :00475188 8B 9E 92 5A FF 5D A6 F0 ...Z.]..

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Dutch Humourless EuroMod. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: City of Mermaids, Denmark Posts: 6,819	MS S&T 2007 with Gps Locator bundle. Includesa Microsoft rebadged Pharos GPS-500 USB gps (SIRFIII chipset). Works great. You should be able to find it at the local hardware/sofware pusher, otherwise amazon has got it. http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Stre...6495255&sr=8-1 New price with Amazon is 89.99 $, or used for 69.95 through Amazons Marketplace. Good thing is you can convert the GPS to BT or to RS232 by way of an slot-in-adapter for the actual GPS chip/antenna housing. Only bad thing IMHO, is that placing it outdoor is not advisable, due to the the USB connector being unprotected from the weather. (Condoms - Non-lubricated, to the rescue...) Performancewise it is a good GPS, and with MS S&T 2007 included it's good value for the price. Recommended. Dutch __________________ All your answers are belong to Google. SEARCH DAMMIT! Warning. Warning. Low C8H10N4O2 level detected. Operator halted....

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Airstreamer Sniffin' the aether Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: A little North of Reason Posts: 2,821	That fancy new color Delorme GPS has both USB and RS-232 interfaces. Of course, its is over $350.00! __________________ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards.." - Claire Wolfe, 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution

04-13-2007	#9 (permalink)
theprez98 SpoonfeederExtraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,709	I have a Magellan Meridian GPS which is great and does everything, but its overkill for wardriving, needs a serial cable, and needs power. I have a combo serial/lighter cable but it just seems to have stopped working... Also, I don't really like having a nice GPS sitting in the window of the car. My new laptop has no serial port either, so the new GPS with the USB should work great. __________________ :00475160 0E A6 AE A0 19 E3 A3 46 .......F :00475168 0D 65 17 0C 53 70 6F 6F .e..Spoo :00475170 6E 66 65 65 64 65 72 2E nfeeder. :00475178 45 78 74 72 61 6F 72 64 Extraord :00475180 69 6E 61 69 72 65 5D 3B inaire]; :00475188 8B 9E 92 5A FF 5D A6 F0 ...Z.]..

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Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,882	I broke off the power plug for my dc/ac power inverter about a month ago. Didn't hurt the jack though. You'd thing they would test these things to -40. You got the new pharos, the one I have is twice the size as that one. I haven't had the chance to upgrade yet. __________________ Never do anything you don't want to explain to the paramedics.

04-13-2007	#11 (permalink)
theprez98 SpoonfeederExtraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,709	This pharos is nice. It's sitting on my table at least 3 feet from the window (and another foot or so of roof overhang) and its still picking up 8 sats. __________________ :00475160 0E A6 AE A0 19 E3 A3 46 .......F :00475168 0D 65 17 0C 53 70 6F 6F .e..Spoo :00475170 6E 66 65 65 64 65 72 2E nfeeder. :00475178 45 78 74 72 61 6F 72 64 Extraord :00475180 69 6E 61 69 72 65 5D 3B inaire]; :00475188 8B 9E 92 5A FF 5D A6 F0 ...Z.]..

04-13-2007	#12 (permalink)
theprez98 SpoonfeederExtraordinaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,709	Interesting...in Windows, I got a signal inside the house. In Linux, it was much more sporadic. Irongeek mentioned the same thing on his website. I drove around for about 45 minutes and only about half of the new APs have GPS. I watched kismet a while and it seems that the the GPS would lock into 3D mode for a while and then drop for a while...perhaps even cycling at regular intervals. gpsd issue, maybe? __________________ :00475160 0E A6 AE A0 19 E3 A3 46 .......F :00475168 0D 65 17 0C 53 70 6F 6F .e..Spoo :00475170 6E 66 65 65 64 65 72 2E nfeeder. :00475178 45 78 74 72 61 6F 72 64 Extraord :00475180 69 6E 61 69 72 65 5D 3B inaire]; :00475188 8B 9E 92 5A FF 5D A6 F0 ...Z.]..

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